sorry if its already said, but in the one of the cops said, if you showed paper work and proved none of the parts were stolen, you could get your car back with some fines?


and the only reason they crushed it was because they had parts that were stolen?

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only? im sorry but if my car parts were found in any other person's car without my knowledge, id not only want to crush their car into itty bitty pieces but i would prolly tie the bastard to the inside of the car while its happening. There's no excuse of having someone else's engine with either no paperwork or receipts whatsoever or with the id number scratched beyond recognition. That just screams shady.

Maybe california is being too harsh with the car crushing and the bluetooth laws, but its definitely improved day to day living. So much that it's hard to find ricers anymore (at least the typical civic, accord, prelude type). It almost seems like they all got wiser and bought better cars so now theres tons of 350z and g35's. There's not even that many evos or stis around. Its also great not seeing people on their phones causing accidents. Im not saying it works 100% of the time but its a dramatic improvement.

lol and if people started retaliating around here with rifles or anything resembling weapons, screw the national guard, they would get shot/snipered/gunned down by both the LAPD and SWAT before they even had a chance to sht bricks. You just don't mess with cops around here.

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street racing deaths are directly countable. deaths related to smoking, alcohol, or drugs are harder to pin on the actual substance because those are secondary to the main cause of death which would be malfunctioning organs. products when used correctly rarely kill people. thats why we have such strict regulators like the FDA (i know its for food but its all i can think of at this hour) that have to approve things before it goes out. Much hard work is put into the cigarette, alcohol, and especially pharmaceutical companies, much more so than modifying cars. Think of all the jobs people have as scientists, testers, blue collar workers, etc that make up those companies. Not to mention the amount of money the economy rakes in from the profits. If you can prove that the existence of those products produce more harm than good, then you might have a fighting chance. But arguing and saying your right to freedom is being hampered by not being able to modify to your hearts content just won't cut it when there are laws protecting the rest of the country from your potential hazardous modifications.

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i know but lets say someone bought an engine, from some guy on craigslist and it turns out that it was stolen but you didnt know until your car gets crushed..i mean isnt that a little unfair?

hrm...well yea. im sure you would be protected. as long as you have proof that you paid for it and can say where you got it from. it takes a court order for your car to be crushed. the owner has tons of opportunities to show any type of documentation. thats why receipts is a must everytime you get parts from a junkyard, the internet, etc. when obtaining huge car parts. the court will be more forgiving if you get a part from a guy that has the same car as the part you bought from him rather than a guy that has a big truck with loose engines sitting in the back.

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where I live



texas





random

Up in Canada we only have Crown Vics and Chargers

Also, Ontario is the Canadian equivalent to California when it comes to nazi street entiforcement. I've heard of people being pulled over for under hood checks. If you don't have the plaque on your engine or transmission, its considered stolen. If you're caught going 50km/h over the speed limit you are "Street racing" and your car is impounded or crushed. I've also heard about randomly pulling over ricer civics and ****.

On the subject of street racing:
I don't think its very wrong, Its dangerous but there's really nowhere else w can go. Everyone is trying to bust down on street racing but cars keep getting faster and safer, and they keep closing down more and more racetracks.

If governments want to bitch about street racing they should do the smart thing and open more racetracks instead of closing them down so that we have a place where we can go to get all of this out of our system or else they should expect more racing related deaths.

The only real track I think we have up here is Mo-sport and its a good 4 hours drive for me .

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See, I can understand that. But for us here in my city at least. WE have tracks. They may be 45 minutes away, but only $20 to race. Plus you can get a lot of people and bbq or something out there. Its fun. There is small events out there too. AND we are getting a drifting track closer to my city than the 45min drag strip. So for the residents here, there is no excuses. The cops are not too too bad here. But a few can be.

The last time I was pulled over, the cop went right up front and was checking
the grille, I assume looking for an intercooler, he wrote me up for speeding,
(73 in a 65, I got tired of some DA riding in my blind spot so I sped up at exactly
the wrong time) he then informed me my exhaust is illegal. In the state of WA
you must have stock dia from front to rear.



I think it is total bs they spend that much on patrol cars, whats the point a radio is
still faster than a viper. I am not sure why the taxpayers in those areas put up with crap like that, I
would be totally pissed off if I was paying for sports cars for officer oinky.

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Yeah we have camaro officers, charger officers, and I think I have seen one corvette officer here. It is total bs. I kind of get upset that they give us a hard time. Not like we can afford a dodge viper or mercedes mclaren. that's what they need to understand.

ontario is pretty bad... here is how we ended up with police impounding cars on the spot, suspending licenses on the spot all with a minimum $2000 and maximum $10,000 fine

head of toronto police always wanted a law like this to crack down on 'street racing'. initially, the bill was really to fight street racing, but it was rejected by congress.

then one night 2 young guys killed a cab driver. all the media wrote about how the 2 young guys were recklessly street racing and how the poor cab driver just immigrated here. basically the media made a sappy story for the cab driver and made the 2 young kids look like ruthless murderers. they were sentenced to house arrest and everyone was outraged.

that was when the bill really took off. the public was even all for it. and congress was going to pass the bill to fight REAL street racing..

then JUST before the bill passed, the toronto police head dude added the clause about how a cop can stop ppl for going 50 over and for other traffic infractions that have nothing to do with street racing... all w/o the public knowing... basically he wanted more power

then JUST after the bill was passed, new evidence surfaced about the tragic accident with the cab driver. turns out cab driver was drinking and did something wrong to cause the accident. all the 2 young guys were doing was speeding slightly...

can't help but think this was all staged so they coul get this law passed...

i believe they got so much revenue from this law that the toronto police was finally able to purchase a new plane to patrol the highways

i think these cases will finally be reaching the courts soon... hopefully they'll find it unconstitutional and make adjustments

oh, and instead of evos and stis... our police have a civic si... i guess that's gd.. rite? lol

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Hahahaha yeah. Wewt for Si.

So are they bringing that 50 thing to court? I sure hope so, the cops in Hamilton are d-bags. We have a 4 lane 80km/h 4 lane highway with median to bypass main st in Hamilton but it goes by a university and because a lot of idiots j-walk across it they turned it into a 40km/h road. You have about 100m to slow down from 80 to 40.... Guess where the cops sit.

So many people have been booked for "street racing" its unfathomable. And not even ricer kids, mostly elderly and 9-5ers. Its by far the stupidest law Ontario has ever passed.