GT4Soldier

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Im really getting more and more interest into just turboing my 5sfe engine, i was checking out some turbo kits on ebay for an 5sfe engine.. and 1 guy is selling an rebuilt turbo kit taken out from his 5sfe engine for only 200 bucks plus 60 shipping.. so im just wondering if this is a good idea, not in terms of buying his rebuilt engine.. but turboing my engine period. I mean i still want an Gt4, but im thinking maybe ill hold that off till i graduate and just buy another GT and dp the swap.. b/c i really love celicas ... and I also think I can do it myself!!!

heres the link to the turbo kit taken from an 5sfe engine:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...T&viewitem=

This post has been edited by GT4Soldier: Dec 9, 2008 - 4:00 PM

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_Jim_

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OK, so you need Cam shaft seals.....and if I had to guess what a CANG seal is I would guess a rear main seal which I guess he was trying to call a "CRANK SEAL" thats my best guess. Wires you can get from Toyota, but I don't have the part number on me. About the Gauge cluster....why not use the one in the car? And all parts can be bought here http://www.kbox.ca/catalog/

PS. I highly recommend putting in adjustable cam gears, or at least an adjustable exhaust cam gear. You will kick yourself in the ass later if you don't do it now, I promise you that .

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LOL - he meant Crank seal - I've heard Japanese men say it that way before. If you haven't already done so I suggest getting both the seals for the crank - like Jim said - you'll kick yourself later if you don't.

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GT4Soldier

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Cool will do.. thanks guys, yea il definitly get those adjustable cam gears very soon.. as soon as i get more money lol

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_Jim_

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We all understand the money game. But just make sure you do it before you put the motor back in, otherwise putting the cam gears in while the motor is in the car is like doing a "full" timing job. Not easy. You can pick up both cam gears from ATS for well under 200 bucks. Just a friendly heads up. Best of luck with your swap.

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GT4Soldier

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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Sep 29, 2008 - 6:55 PM)

>We all understand the money game. But just make sure you do it before you put the motor back in, otherwise putting the cam gears in while the motor is in the car is like doing a "full" timing job. Not easy. You can pick up both cam gears from ATS for well under 200 bucks. Just a friendly heads up. Best of luck with your swap.

Yea.. but unfortunatly it looks like its gonna be after he puts in the engine, b/c I already ordered those seals on sunday.. so I believe he is already putting it in, and thats my only car and im in college so i need that car back asap.. Im just gonna take it easy though.. i prolly wont ever go past 60 with it.. hopefully that can buy me time for the cams

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Its all good. If you had the money, and were willing to wait on putting it back in for another couple of days, the CAM GEARS have nothing to do with the cam seals. You can install cam gears, even if your cam seals are already installed....just a little FYI. why don't you want to go past 60, whats your thoughts/reasoning behind that behind that.

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GT4Soldier

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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Sep 29, 2008 - 8:54 PM)

>Its all good. If you had the money, and were willing to wait on putting it back in for another couple of days, the CAM GEARS have nothing to do with the cam seals. You can install cam gears, even if your cam seals are already installed....just a little FYI. why don't you want to go past 60, whats your thoughts/reasoning behind that behind that.

oh jus wanna be cautious.. the car isnt 100% tuned.. plus i dont have the ST205 hood yet.. so i dunno what the consequences since there will be no air flow from the hood to the intercooler

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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Sep 29, 2008 - 8:54 PM)

>Its all good. If you had the money, and were willing to wait on putting it back in for another couple of days, the CAM GEARS have nothing to do with the cam seals. You can install cam gears, even if your cam seals are already installed....just a little FYI. why don't you want to go past 60, whats your thoughts/reasoning behind that behind that.

oh jus wanna be cautious.. the car isnt 100% tuned.. plus i dont have the ST205 hood yet.. so i dunno what the consequences since there will be no air flow from the hood to the intercooler

Ok I must be missing something. Is this a "stock" ST205 going in.....Meaning stock turbo, stock ECU, and stock fuel? Because if it is, you car IS "100%" tunned. In fact, you car will be "100%" tunned up until you reach 340whp, which wont happen UNTIL you upgrade your turbo. As for the hood, it isn't needed to "cool down" the intercooler, because the stock water to air intercooler doesn't need air to pass through it to keep it cool, thats what the heat exchanger in the front bumper is for. The vent on the stock GT4 hood is for helping heat escape the engine bay. So if all said above is "stock" as I mentioned, dont be afraid to open it up......it wants you to, so might as well give it what it wants. LOL, or maybe thats what I want. Anyway, have fun with your new setup, at any boost level below 17psi, you want have any issues with that setup.

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GT4Soldier

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oh yea its totaly a stock st205 engine, and thanks you just answered a question i had about the hood which i was gonna write here. umm, my setup is stock engine, im using my GT transmission from the st204 celica GT for now, gonna upgrade my clutch to stage 5 soon, stock fuel.. i actually got an update from my mechanic today.. he wants me to go check my car b/c apparently the engine is too big for my car.. dont know how he put it.. gonna go check it out sunday b/c im currently 60 miles away from my car in my dorm in college. So ill have more info on the swap on sunday when i go check it out.. i think he cant close the hood rite now or something.. well see..

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95st-celica

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you have to drill a hole for the motor mount on the pass.side....its not to "big" it fits in perfect..lol...your mechanic just has never done a swap like this before....good luck with it though bro sounds like it will be fun

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Batman722

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QUOTE (95st-celica @ Oct 1, 2008 - 12:33 AM)

>you have to drill a hole for the motor mount on the pass.side....

not if he has a GT. The GT has basically the same pass side mount as the 205, the ST is completely different.

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lagos

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Doing next to zero research on your swap and handing it over to a random mechanic.... priceless.

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95st-celica

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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Oct 1, 2008 - 12:41 AM)

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QUOTE (95st-celica @ Oct 1, 2008 - 12:33 AM)

>you have to drill a hole for the motor mount on the pass.side....

not if he has a GT. The GT has basically the same pass side mount as the 205, the ST is completely different.

your right..i was thinking it was an st for some reason?...the GT fits with no problem

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GT4Soldier

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QUOTE (lagos @ Oct 1, 2008 - 1:03 AM)

>Doing next to zero research on your swap and handing it over to a random mechanic.... priceless.

lagos....

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QUOTE (GT4Soldier @ Sep 30, 2008 - 11:49 PM)

>im using my GT transmission from the st202 celica GT

BTW man - I think you mean ST-204 and not ST-202 right? USDM GT like mine?

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GT4Soldier

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Umm, is a 1995 toyota celica USDM ST202? im not quite sure the difference. my car is a 1995 celica GT USDM, so i thought it was ST202.

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Nope - ST-204 for the GT [GTS in Canada] and AT-200 for the ST.
ST-202 is the everywhere else 2.0l 3S-GE 6GC whether it be Beams or not.

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GT4Soldier

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ahhh i see now.. cool thanks 4 that info.. ok so that means i got an st204 celica.. lol ive been sayin i got an st202 for about 2 years now..

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GT4Soldier

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ok... imma try n solve the problem b4 i even see my car sunday.. my mechanic said the engine is too big... im thinking it may the hood issue. I still had the st204 hood on the car, the st205 hood is still on its way.. maybe the intercooler is not allowing the hood to close.. u guys think this may be what the problem is??

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supershannon77

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I don't think that is a problem bc Corey Silver94CelicaOwner has the st205 swap in his car ...........he has the stock hood and I believe he had zero fitment issues as far as the hood goes..you can always look up his build thread to be sure.

EDIT: you should go by the shop and take plenty of picture and get them up...I would have the members on here look at the progress......maybe they could see if anything stands out that the mechanic might be doing wrong

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GT4Soldier

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yea that sounds good, will do.. imma take alot of pictures and put them on my photobucket page sunday night.. lol i hope time goes by fast.. im so anxious!! lol

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Batman722

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QUOTE (lagos @ Oct 1, 2008 - 1:03 AM)

>Doing next to zero research on your swap and handing it over to a random mechanic.... priceless.

lagos....

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QUOTE (GT4Soldier @ Oct 1, 2008 - 5:24 PM)

>Umm, is a 1995 toyota celica USDM ST202? im not quite sure the difference. my car is a 1995 celica GT USDM, so i thought it was ST202.

case in point.

There are a bizzlion other things you don't know about your car and the motor you're having put into it. Research and knowledge is the one thing you can't buy or not have with a situation like this. Also, I would never hand my car over to a guy for this kind of work to be done and not have great communication with him. There are going to be issues/problems that pop up and with you and him not being to understand each other, eek. That scares me.

and with that said, as Shannon said the IC shouldn't be problem with a stock hood.
If you have any other problems/questions, post them up. I'm sure we'll all try to help.

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GT4Soldier

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Hey guys,

Ok I took some pictures when i visited my car for the first time in about 2 weeks.. My mechanic has my old engine out and is finally ready to put the new motor in.. we resolved the engine size issue, so hes ready 2 roll! i have an 3sgte album on photbucket with the pics, heres the link:

http://s396.photobucket.com/albums/pp42/GT...4/3sgte%20swap/

I would say the conversion will be about 65% complete when the motor is fully swapped.. the rear end is about 90% converted

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RickJamesBish

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LOL @ Cang seal.

GT4Soldier

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lol i know.. and he was soo sure he was right in that pronounciation

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_Jim_

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what do you mean the rear end is 90% complete?

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GT4Soldier

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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Oct 6, 2008 - 5:10 PM)

>what do you mean the rear end is 90% complete?

just as far as making the rear look like an celica gt4... i put on the raiser blocks and put an gt4 emblem on.. i wanna put on an rear spoiler too sometime.. so besides that i think its done.. thats why i said its 90% done

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QUOTE (GT4Soldier @ Oct 6, 2008 - 6:08 PM)

>and put an gt4 emblem on..

please don't put on a GT-Four emblem, it's just not right.
Your car is not a GT-Four, it does not have 4 wheel drive.

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_Jim_

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>what do you mean the rear end is 90% complete?

just as far as making the rear look like an celica gt4... i put on the raiser blocks and put an gt4 emblem on.. i wanna put on an rear spoiler too sometime.. so besides that i think its done.. thats why i said its 90% done

LOL o0o0o0o ok I thought you were talking about putting in a rear for the purpose of AWD. LOLOLOLOL fair enough, looking good man.

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