Can we keep this serious guys? I feel this is a legitimate topic.

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seriously, you two clowns are really starting to push my buttons here.
you cant even keep your post whoring out of THIS thread?
keep pushing.

One of the new features should set limits on postings of some members.

Well, the only post that didn't go along with my main point was quote #2. Everything else goes along with my retort to manphibian.

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...Specifically in O/T

If at the very least all of you clowns (you know who you are) would at least stay on topic of the thread, it would be way better.

Forums rules:

4. Please refrain from posting pointless posts, such as posts that are just smilies or posts that say stuff like "I'm with stupid" or "Page 2 Owned!"). This includes sarcastic posts about making fun of someone's car, or playful arguing with one another in a thread. These posts simply take over threads and turn them into useless garbage.

Off topic means non celica related topic, not random merde topic. Some people want genuine advice about stuff and the internet is a very good way to get opinions from other people, and you guys just come in and play like a bunch of kids in front of the malls. You know, they are there, add to the atmosphere but in the end - are completely useless in the picture.

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This thread is starting to get off topic too. All I'd like to add at this point is, first of all, isn't this a forum? If people don't join it would just be a database searchable for all, since apparently every question relating to 6gcs now end with "USE THE SEARCH BUTTON NOOB", instead of just helping the person out, the answer is probably just as easy to type as "SEARCH!"

So in that case, why do we need a forum, people like RJB who need to know stuff get turned away.

Without D-man this place would be drab, his posts, although not always relevant, are funny. Sure RJB excessively states his opinion. Set a limit of posts if thats a problem, not just for them, for everyone. I've seen great examples of times where they have helped people too, no one points that out, surprisingly. It's always negative with everyone here.

And njccmd makes a great point, everyone is selling their cars recently, which means more people NOOBS are gonna join and alot of them are going to get turned away with this constant bickering and crap. I'm starting to get turned away as it is now.

6gc is becoming more of a "let me see who got banned today" or "what great topic went to sht today" instead of intriguing content.

i love how 99% of the people who complain are new members, whove been here less than a year.

its always that way for some reason...lmao

do you even know who the last person who was banned WAS?

these forums are moded fine...i used to think they weren't but then i thought about it.there are really only 2 mods..(idk where snaptshot/def went) so they do a dam fine job for managing 50+ posts a day...but the OT section is still a part of 6gc.net and should have to follow the same rules as the rest..if u don't like it gtfo and join another forum...

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No I don't, frankly I don't care, it's truly not any of my business.

But this is just the thing I'm talking about, new members are ALWAYS being talked down to like we are children, just as you are to me right now. Yes you may be older than me, yes you may be more knowledgeable about the 6gc than me, and I do look up to you and what you have achieved with your celi, I really do. But this is exactly what I'm talking about, just cause I'm new here it doesn't or SHOULDN'T make my opinion or thoughts any less valuable.

You guys should appreciate new members for having fresh ideas and being eager to learn about the celi. That's why we're all here anyway.

And I don't see how this is a complaint, or my last post, I made a statement based on my observations. I did not complain.

we welcome all new members, and encourage them to learn as much as they can about theyre celicas.
just not the ones who are here to start crap and spam up the boards with usless crap.

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is hongkong me? or did someone join while i was absent and have a similiar name?

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RJB?

This stuff comes up periodically. I got on the bandwagon one of the last times it came up too. But ya know, really, it's not worth getting all worked up about. I think everyone needs to STFU and just be cool until Coomer releases his update/upgrade/feature thing. Really guys - there's bigger fish to fry than who posts what in OT. Ultimately, yeah - it's private bandwidth and we all get to be here for free. To me that means if you don't like the rules, move on. Otherwise, we could all use the reminder once in a while to chill the f**k out and help keep this site a quality site. When lame useless crap starts appearing under the site header when Celica stuff is googled, you know it's BAD TIMES.

As for some of the new (and not so new, including myself, I know) people posting useless posts - no, they're not a really direct contribution to the community. But if lurking is how they get to learn anything of use, they can apply it in their own lives and in turn make useful posts in the future. I lurked on here without posting much of anything at all for like 4 months. I'd like to think that the more time I spend on here, the more I learn, and in turn, the more I'm able to contribute.

Find a useful balance.

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Yes, you guys say that you welcome new members, but I do not see this implemented, I honestly don't.

I do get what you are saying about people spamming the boards, it makes your job and other mod's jobs more difficult, and it gets very annoying when good threads get messed up because of immaturity and back and forth crap.

And for the record I'm not trying to start "beef" with you or anyone else, I'm just saying that from the way I see it as a noob, everyone here with "seniority" bullies the new guys.

Edit: i think im getting further and further off this topic about off topic, lol.

This post has been edited by samir0189: Nov 20, 2008 - 7:48 PM

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thats you......everyone needs to remember..

>>THIS SITE IS FREE>>


of course 6gc.net welcomes new members...its when people come to this site and after like 2 months just start bitching about stuff becuse they think there opinion is so much higher than everyone elses...EVERYONE ON 6GC HAS A SAY ON ANY MATTER,regardless of time on boards..i thnik we are nice to new people..its not like we say "shut up your new so u cant say anything"

This post has been edited by CelicaST_CALI: Nov 20, 2008 - 7:49 PM

^^ and this is coming from a guy who has been warned multiple times about post whoring, and now gets it.

those of you who dont get it, should really take heed to what he said.

sam, i encourage you to point out specificly where i have NOT helped and welcomed new members where i can, and where i have bullied new members, or old members for that matter.

i dont "bully" anyone, i enforce the rules that we have to follow on this site.
if someone cannot follow them, or more importantly dont WANT to follow them, there are pleanty of other celica sites out there to go ahead and join.

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I'm not about to go and point out everyone's faults and flaws, and I never said you specifically were the culprit either.

I know you have to enforce the rules, and I applaud the job you do for the most part.


I feel like there's something else i need to say but can't think of how to word it at the moment, i've got an essay to write tonight too so words are hard to come by. I may edit later.

OK

I think we can all avoid these mods vs. members discussions if we keep some form of ethics or morals in mind when we post. Like the, "don't say anything if you don't have something nice to say," but that doesn't mean you should hold in your opinion either. I think that's where we're getting hung up, with extreme opinions, and there are some people who like to make their extreme opinions known.

Secondly, I think for those who get offended or those who hit the "report this post" button, instead of just making the mod close what could have been a good thread*, perhaps make it known to that person what offended you, that way they know for next time what may be offensive you know? If no one tells them how are they to know?

*I'm not saying some threads don't deserve to be closed because some really DO.


presure2- I apologize, maybe bullying wasn't the correct word. word choices>me tonight. Perhaps its annoyed, and I don't blame you if you or anyone else is somewhat annoyed with new members if all it entails is cleaning up after them and useless clutter.

Sever- you make the most EPICCCC threads. lol.

well said, now group hug and /thread.

wow i didnt expect this to get so in depth. I apologize if i pissed some mods off. i just needed to start the thread and see how many people were thinkin the same way i was. I respect EVERYONE on this forum. Ive learned this by being an ass to random stranger back in the day and it turns out that he is one of the coolest guys ive talked to. Everyone on this forum deserves respect. and also deserves to not get disrespected on an opinion they might have. Sure some of you really dont like other members. but you dont have to post a negative comment or remark about that member. I saw we /thread and wait to see these "big features" b4 we really offend someone on the forum


~Brent~

that pic made me LOL

thats d-man going against the grain hahaha

Wow, after reading all of this... I completely changed my mind.

At first, I agreed with sever, i also felt like.. why the huge commotion and strict rules on the OT section? Why are so many threads locked? Why are so many threads deemed "inappropriate"? Why can't we just talk about whatever we want?

But, as I read through this thread, I came to a realization and a revelation. 6gc is a car forum that's STRICTLY focused on 6 generation celicas. Pointless threads are well, pointless. We're not here to blabber about online crap, or complain about life. We're here to talk about CARS! One of the best arguments made was that this is a PRIVATE forum, privately funded at least, so we have to adhere to the rules set by the owner and the moderators if we are to be part of this exclusive forum.

So yeah, I won't post pointless threads in the OT section anymore.

I'm definitely looking forward to the updates on the site, but until then, I think I'll be visiting here less frequently because yeah, the 6gc forum is not the place to talk about whatever we want, its a place to discuss 6gcs.

Thank you mods for keeping it clean

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i couldnt have said it better myself.

I have just observed, of course coming from my experience too that new members are mostly on the off topic threads because.... here it goes... they don't know much about the 6g yet, and they just want to contribute or be a part of a thread and be recognized. And how will they do that? comment on off topic threads but sometimes they get out of hands and just needs some reminders, as they go along and learn they contributes to the more helpful threads. yea?

edit: note that I'm not consenting or defending any thread whoring but simply explaining.

This post has been edited by Jeunesse: Nov 21, 2008 - 8:29 AM

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i do agree with most of that. but YES this is a car forum but this is also a social place. we all share the same love for the celica. thats why we are on here. but for me, i like to bond with people in more ways than just cars. so thats why i like the OT section. i can get to know members and just make some new friends. If this site was all uptight and serious i doubt alot of people would still be on here. sure some seriousness is needed to run a site like this. but the OT section and the funny comments by some members make it worth while. Blabbering about online crap is Off topic. there nothin wrong with that unless its inappropriate. but the complaing about life you should def just talk to a friend in person and keep that away from the forum.

Bored at work, so here I am. Anywho...

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That applies to me as well. I'm usually here to check out the meet threads, see what's for sale (that's how I got my fuel pump and AFC Neo), skim Manny's, Shannon's, and Stef's build thread, exhange some PMs with people, and that's about it. Meaning I'm here maybe 5-10 minutes every few days. Most new posts I've seen have been reposts of reposts of threads that were posted a little further down the page. Almost everything that needs to be known could be found by searching and/or in the STICKIES in each section granted some of them could use a bit of an update.

As for the forums being privately funded: It doesn't necessarily have to be (at least I don't think so). For example, another forum I'm on, the lead Admin who is currently hosting the forum on a server in his home, wanted to update the hardware and just make the forums better in general through software and hardware. He mentioned how much it would cost to do so and a few of the members thought it would be a good idea to set up a way where the members could contribute and donate to help out, so thus a paypal account was set-up to help out the forums and it's been going fine so far.

*shrug* just my 2/100 of a dollar.

We can talk about the same thing forever, but we all know it's just a case of balancing fun with seriousness and usefulness. We try our best to keep the balance right, but we obviously can't please all of the people all of the time...

I don't want people to stop posting anything OT, of course it's good to talk about other stuff now and again, but this site is different to most others in that the main focus is on the cars. In my experience, most other sites consist of people just waiting for someone to post so they can flame them and show how hilarious they are and how many fail pictures they have in their photobucket account

And as for noobs getting flamed... if you think this site is bad, you need to look around a bit. There are tons of people willing to help new people! We actively moderate threads where people get flamed. As long as people have made a reasonable effort to search for themselves, which is fair enough right?

Now, pleeeease keep posting and making threads and keep 6GC a useful, interesting and friendly community

Goddamn Luke for President!

yeah sever, thats what i want as well, but the thing is, we have to adhere to the rules that the mods and owner imposes upon us. so.. if they say it doesnt go, then it doesnt go.

btw, i had a quick idea, why not just have the OP label the topic (NSFW) in the title if it even MIGHT be inappropriate, then it'd be up to our own discretion to view the topic, just an idea.