so in a few months i plan on purchasing a 3sgte and i am wondering if anyone knows of any online resources where i can find a 3sgte (complete engine, ECU, uncut wiring, etc.) for a decent price; and without getting sold a piece of crap. so i need a reliable seller. anyone know of any? thanks for your help.

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Or where I got mine. EBAY

Just shop and call and ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS.

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ok well im lookin for i think the 3rd gen 3sgte. the twin entry model. after reading alot of the threads around here it seems they are better in performance and are more reliable.

You will get a twin entry turbo from anything other then the 1st gen 3sgte found in the st165. If you are on a budget pick up a 2nd gen. If not get a 4th gen. If you want WTA intercooler get the 3rd gen.

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what is a WTA intercooler? whats the difference in that one?

well the first gen and the 3rd gen came with a water to air top mount intercooler. The second gen did but only on the Carlos Sainz edition RC 3sgte. The core is smaller then the 3rd gen w2a, but still far more efficient then the 2nd gen A2A top mount. a2a meaning air to air,

I had a 3rd gen w2a top mount I retrofitted on my 2nd gen 3sgte and even on those hard runs I can touch the top of the intercooler and it was still cool. Its not like the factory 2nd gen a2a intercooler. That thing is like a damn BBQ grill. I was thinking about cooking some chicken on it once. Bad idea to boost my car with that top mount on, but o well. Now I have a FMIC fitted.

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ok well im looking for a good engine but for a medium price. i'm wanting to stay under $2,000. so far i'm attracted to the 3rd gen the most. i think it is rated at 255 stock HP (correct me if im wrong). seems like a pretty good stock engine. what are your thoughts?

I would pick up a 3rd gen. But for 2000, I doubt you'll get everything you need for the swap. Now what is your budget for this swap? Meaning how much do you have to spend or willing to spend on this project?

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yeah i know i wont stay under 2 k for the whole swap, i mean i would just like to pick up the engine with ecu, and wiring for under 2. as of now i have no money lol...i have 3 jobs coming up for winter though, well 2 for winter at a snow resort, and 1 coming up in january at a new indoor water park. i plan on saving up a atleast 2 grand by my graduation date in may so i can go ahead and buy the engine. then i plan on holding out on swapping so i can clean it up and replace some parts, such as the cam gears and other easy replacements. really i havent set out a budget, but im wanting to do a good swap for the cheapest amount. but i dont want it to be so cheap that i will have problems later. i will have the engine drop and wiring done professionally. i dont know anyone around where i live that could help me out...soo i have to go to Toyota most likely....

If you pay me I'll come down to Indiana and do it for you. Forget paying a shop to do the swap. Get the Doc to do the wiring. You can get it done for around 500.

Now you will need a complete engine set. Forget getting the clip, too much work IMO. Just shop around and you'll find what you need. You will need a 2bar map sensor, ignitor, coil, resistor packs, uncut harness, ecu, fuel pump relay, and 3rd ecu plug.

I got my motor set shipped for 1700. Thats a 2nd gen. I got my harness done by DG_Performance for around 500. So that alone is already above your budget.

Then I got my clutch set-up from Doc tweak for 450 IIRC. You will need a hybrid clutch setup if you plan to use your s54 trans for the swap. I now use an e153 trans So I use a full 3sgte clutch setup.

So now we are even more above your budget. You will also need a new Fuel Pump. The stocl one wont supply enough fuel. Looking at about 110 shipped.

And obviously maintenance stuff gaskets, belts, fluids. Thats roughly around 500. Good luck good sir.

ok...well...haha...this is why i ask so many questions..lol...i guess i am just gonna save all winter and spring and when the time comes i will probably just get a small loan of a couple g's from my bank....there are so many little things about the swap i dont know...so i will probably be asking you questions quite often lol...you seem very on top of everything....especially since you have swapped yours....by the way, beautiful celica, i just checked it out....i've been meaning to get some up of mine, just been too busy......but anyways, i want to swap my celi sooo bad...it's all i think about everyday. i am on 6gc all day at school lol....just trying to get as much knowledge as i can on it....hopefully it will happen around next summer and that would be awesome, you coming down to help me out for some pay..

Just keep reading and don't be afraid to ask. This is what we are here for.

I am going to be honest with you, just think really really carefully about doing this. Because the enjoyment won't last long. You'll want more and after taking out your loan and saving for 2 seasons, it wont be enough. Maintenance is key to keeping your motor alive. A little negligence and say goodbye to your motor. You gotta pay to play to hang with the big boys. Sometimes its something little, but most of the time its something big and you're going to need money to replace the broken part. Trust me. I think I spend more time under the car then driving it, but hey I love it.