Yup im in the process of installing it and tuning it at my friends shop. ill post dyno results when im done.
in process of installing and tuning SAFC2 - 6G Celicas Forums
Hey tell us were you mounted pics would be awesome. >
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mOOoooOoOhahahaha~! I'l see dis 2nite...I guess ur faster than me now~....for now >
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sweet. looking forward to those settings and dyno figures >
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I was at a shop when some guys from apex USA showed up and were talking to the guy who was getting it installed. They said you cant expect much gains from it unless you have a monster car to begin with (ie. turbo setup, or heavy mods like upped compresion and stuff) they said your lucky if you get a 2% gain. so on an ST thats like 2-3 HP. Just a heads up for ya... so your not disapointed with the dyno.
side note: where in the car did you install it, like where on the dash... so far Doggy's setup is the nicest I have seen.
This post has been edited by Chrobis: Oct 5, 2003 - 12:39 AM
side note: where in the car did you install it, like where on the dash... so far Doggy's setup is the nicest I have seen.
This post has been edited by Chrobis: Oct 5, 2003 - 12:39 AM
-Chrobis+Oct 5, 2003 - 12:38 AM
Heh...trust the mighty butt-meter gh0st_d0g...
On my old 94 ST (fully built head [shaved, P&P, 3 angle valve job, retainers and springs], CAI/H/E/Underdrive pulley...) I dyno tuned around 8-10 HP gains all over the powerband. The highest gains were in the 3500-4000 rpm... and then again in the 6K department, dropping off at fuel-cut. I had all of my old timeslips and dyno runs in the glove compartment of that car, which was sold after a nasty accident... so I'll vouch for those who have faith, that a fine tuned SAFC can nab some nice gains. On a stock/modestly modified motor, not a lot, 3-6hp is a good estimate, but heh... every bit counts...right?
Right now, I haven't had time to go dyno-tune my current set-up (refer to profile)...I just tweak-tuned it with an a/f meter... but there are definate gains in the 3-4K rpm range... it jumps nicely... but I wouldn't say it's more than 5 hp...
This post has been edited by Kwanza: Oct 5, 2003 - 1:45 AM
On my old 94 ST (fully built head [shaved, P&P, 3 angle valve job, retainers and springs], CAI/H/E/Underdrive pulley...) I dyno tuned around 8-10 HP gains all over the powerband. The highest gains were in the 3500-4000 rpm... and then again in the 6K department, dropping off at fuel-cut. I had all of my old timeslips and dyno runs in the glove compartment of that car, which was sold after a nasty accident... so I'll vouch for those who have faith, that a fine tuned SAFC can nab some nice gains. On a stock/modestly modified motor, not a lot, 3-6hp is a good estimate, but heh... every bit counts...right?
Right now, I haven't had time to go dyno-tune my current set-up (refer to profile)...I just tweak-tuned it with an a/f meter... but there are definate gains in the 3-4K rpm range... it jumps nicely... but I wouldn't say it's more than 5 hp...
This post has been edited by Kwanza: Oct 5, 2003 - 1:45 AM
-Chrobis+Oct 4, 2003 - 11:38 PM
Here is my setup for SAFC2 >>
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That looks amazing Edo! >> Did you 'glass it in there?
> Did you 'glass it in there?
New Toyota project coming soon...
gt2gt4
i was going to do that with my SAFC2 but i have it where i can see it then hide it in the pouch under the cd player.
and also
the stock ST fuel map is WAY RICH. even with -17% i was still in the rich zone with a nice feel.
now i finally started leaning out my car with the turbo setup. i used to be pegged at rich but now its on the first green bar on my gauge. i'll lean it out more untill its in the ideal/stoich range when under boost.
and btw, the SAFC2 was the one mod that did the most for my car untill i installed the turbo setup
This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Oct 5, 2003 - 11:50 AM
i was going to do that with my SAFC2 but i have it where i can see it then hide it in the pouch under the cd player.
and also
the stock ST fuel map is WAY RICH. even with -17% i was still in the rich zone with a nice feel.
now i finally started leaning out my car with the turbo setup. i used to be pegged at rich but now its on the first green bar on my gauge. i'll lean it out more untill its in the ideal/stoich range when under boost.
and btw, the SAFC2 was the one mod that did the most for my car untill i installed the turbo setup
This post has been edited by 97sccelica: Oct 5, 2003 - 11:50 AM
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COOL. ive installed it but havnt mounted it any where speacial just got it in the glove box for now. i wasnt expecting a huge HP gain or TQ gain. by the way.
The base HP with just Cold air intake and Striaght pipe with Apexi N1 (stock piping with removed cat and resonator) was 97.1 hp and 98 tq. The only bad thing is that it was running to lean at the start and WAY Rich at high end.
Checked the fuel pump and all that stuff and everything looked good. So installation was a go.
After installing S-AFC and dynoing it i got a hp gain of 102hp and 106tq. I also had www.autotechmotorsports.com tune it for me and even though the gains arnt that impressive the car feels more responsive. doesnt feel sluggish going from 1st to 2nd and also doesnt feel to bad over all. over all im ok with it.
The base HP with just Cold air intake and Striaght pipe with Apexi N1 (stock piping with removed cat and resonator) was 97.1 hp and 98 tq. The only bad thing is that it was running to lean at the start and WAY Rich at high end.
Checked the fuel pump and all that stuff and everything looked good. So installation was a go.
After installing S-AFC and dynoing it i got a hp gain of 102hp and 106tq. I also had www.autotechmotorsports.com tune it for me and even though the gains arnt that impressive the car feels more responsive. doesnt feel sluggish going from 1st to 2nd and also doesnt feel to bad over all. over all im ok with it.
Wow, that's more than I thought a 7a could muster. >>
Jon
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No kidding. I drove my friend's Geo with the 1.8 7AFE motor in it...and it's an automatic...wow I feel sorry for you guys no offense. Those witht he St Auto...ouch! I spose with a manual the time to get thru the first gear is a bit less and maybe a bit quicker. Any HP gains in an ST is good I think and it definitely needs it!
And I mean no offense ot those of you with this car, just saying from my personal experiences...I'm glad I have the GT...and it's no where near my RX.
And I mean no offense ot those of you with this car, just saying from my personal experiences...I'm glad I have the GT...and it's no where near my RX.
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post up those settings when you get a chance. looks like some decent gains were made. >>
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-RedSunCelica+Oct 5, 2003 - 11:38 PM
OK when i get a chance later tonight ill post the settings.
thx bro! >>
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-RedSunCelica+Oct 5, 2003 - 10:23 PM
I know sorry ive been lagging on this ill post in a few hours sorry for the long delay >
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Ok here are the settings hopefully i copied them correctly.
settings i like are
1000 - 0%
2000 - 0%
3000 - 1%
4000 - 2%
5000 - 5%
6000 - 8%
7000 - 9%
8000 - 9%
running HI
1000 - +5
2000 - +7
3000 - +7
4000 - +5
5000 - +9
6000 - -2
7000 - 0
8000 - +3
low
1k-8k 3%
let me know if this makes any sense at all >>
settings i like are
1000 - 0%
2000 - 0%
3000 - 1%
4000 - 2%
5000 - 5%
6000 - 8%
7000 - 9%
8000 - 9%
running HI
1000 - +5
2000 - +7
3000 - +7
4000 - +5
5000 - +9
6000 - -2
7000 - 0
8000 - +3
low
1k-8k 3%
let me know if this makes any sense at all >
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why u run settings till 8K RPMs if you have just 6.5K Rpms?? >
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I think that with thos setting you're still running too rich.
I'll post mine in a few hours to compare with yours >>
> I think that with thos setting you're still running too rich.
I'll post mine in a few hours to compare with yours >
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thanks for posting the settings >>
they seem a bit rich tho. I am using modified settings from 97sccelica:
lo
-2
-6
-8
-9
-9
-12
-12
-13
-13
-3
hi
-4
-5
-6
-9
-9
-15
-16
-17
-18
-3
thr points
30 and 70%
>they seem a bit rich tho. I am using modified settings from 97sccelica:
lo
-2
-6
-8
-9
-9
-12
-12
-13
-13
-3
hi
-4
-5
-6
-9
-9
-15
-16
-17
-18
-3
thr points
30 and 70%
That's wayy too rich...I'm surprised your check light isn't on and your engine's not coughing and choking...heh
Here's mine...
Note: My Ne Settings are changed to take maximize control over when and how much corrections are made throughout the powerband...
Ne:
1000
2000
3000
4000
4500
5000
5500
6500
Lo:
-6
-9
-12
-13
-14
-11
-9
-5
Hi:
-4
-8
-13
-15
-16
-12
-10
-6
Much more lean and agressive than most would dare...;]
Here's mine...
Note: My Ne Settings are changed to take maximize control over when and how much corrections are made throughout the powerband...
Ne:
1000
2000
3000
4000
4500
5000
5500
6500
Lo:
-6
-9
-12
-13
-14
-11
-9
-5
Hi:
-4
-8
-13
-15
-16
-12
-10
-6
Much more lean and agressive than most would dare...;]
Yes, but didn't he dyno his car to get those settings? Also, need I remind everyone of what speedtoe said about judging air\fuel based on a O2 sensor?
Jon
Jon
-FallenHero+Oct 8, 2003 - 11:02 AM
Here are my settings:
RPMs: 1000 1600 2000 2400 3000 3600 4200 4800 5400 6000 6200 6600
THR: Lo 30% Hi 70%
Fuel Pressure: IDLE 37PSI, WOT 52PSI
Hi settings: -8 -7 -7 -7 -8 -8 -9 -10 -10 -11 -12 -14
Lo settings: -10 -5 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +8
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RPMs: 1000 1600 2000 2400 3000 3600 4200 4800 5400 6000 6200 6600
THR: Lo 30% Hi 70%
Fuel Pressure: IDLE 37PSI, WOT 52PSI
Hi settings: -8 -7 -7 -7 -8 -8 -9 -10 -10 -11 -12 -14
Lo settings: -10 -5 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 +7 +8 +8
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well i guess this weekend ill be trying out all those settings. hopefully my friend will let me use his dyno to see the differences.
WHat exactly does this thing do and does it help speed up my car???
-edo17982+Oct 8, 2003 - 4:18 PM