seriously trdproven, could you please drop your car as low as it will go and take a side shot so we can see the ride height difference between megan/tanabe/tein

^ PLEASE...do that, trdproven. When you have a chance and you're not feeling lazy, heh. I'm showing my car in a car show next year and I need to install all the parts before taking it to the paint shop. It would be cool to see the lowest possible setting on your car, because I want to show my car slammed.

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Haha thats alot of work to adjust all those springs. But yea right now, I have it at 3.5. It is tucked but in my pics it doesn't look like it cus I need a wider rim or lower offset. Based off the Megan threading it looks like it can drop well over 4". thats way too much and pointless to drop it that low who would do that to their car, I mean I'm only at this height because I only drive it like 1-5 miles a week. For your case, car show, trust me its more than enough, you prolly won't even go past my height.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 5, 2009 - 1:20 AM

I was planning to buy Tein coils, but now i'm curious about thoose megans...Teins are around 1000€ to me, megans 670€, teins have 16 levels, and thoose ones 32, teins dont have camber unlike thoose ones but i am prety sure that if i set my right front level at 14 (like every other level) as the left one i'm sure that the softness is the same (unlike D2 and Ksport). Do u think its the same for megans too? or its lower price is for a lower quality too? Cuz i read on the web that D2 are good too if u have the right tools to set 'em good, but thoose tools are expansive XD I know that the same setting isn't really needed to use the car on the track, but i'd like to feel sure that 14 left is softer (or harder, dont matter) than 13 or 12 on the right...maybe i did some confusion...tell me if u can understand what i'd want to say

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Maybe I understood this. Are you asking about quality comparison and then about soft/hardness setting comparison.

If so, Tein are better all around then D2,K-sport,Megan. Those 3 are made in the same workshop with different branding and slight changes. Tein are on their own. For track purposes, I would go with Tein, if you want to slam your car and run big camber, then Megan is a better choice.

I'm simplylooking for something that makes me corner faster...for the setting, no problem, i can do it and i've experienced supporters to helpme with what i cant do, but i dont have the tools to be sure the values i setted are really like the level says. I'm just asking, who have megan coils knows if level 28 is soft almost the same on every piece? I read that on D2 Coils (same for Ksport) level 14 (just to say one) on one piece could be lvl 9 on another one and 16 on another, this dont make u sure that the setting u think will really work goodcuz u cant be sure about the setting without testing it in some way...

So D2, Ksport and Megan too are almost the same in most of parts if its are made in the same workshop, that's it?

price vs performance - Tein Basics are no match for Megans. All my friends have Teins and I am not impressed with the fancy indoor adjustability and no strut mount, and 16 way adjustability, no camber adjustment. I get irritated its not a full assembly, you have to use stock components. My friends have to run really stiff just to get it comfortable. For some reason that is not good if they wanted to stiffen it up more for track. Megans I am somewhere in the middle and have lots of more room to adjust for stiffness. I am not saying Teins are a bad product. I am saying hands down, you are paying a lot more for something you don't get. Ive read online Teins lack the adjustability of Megans all around, and you dont need the internet to tell you that just by the specs, Megans even have better spring rates. Teins basics will blow faster than Megans. Megans > Tein Basics. If you get Teins make sure you get higher than the Tein Basics to beat out the Megans. Just research online.

Ok thats sure, the vantages of megans are obvious...springs are not that advantage, to set a track car good u must have more than one spring set...I'm just trying to know trdproven, did u tested if the same setting is the same softness on every piece? Cuz if the advantage of more regulations could not be that much if the same level doesn't match with the same softness on every shock absorber

not sure what you mean exactly or what you are trying to get at to prove a point.

While Driving, the human cannot nick pick the difference if the left front strut is set on 12 or at the same time notice if the right rear is set on 13 and so on. Is that what you mean? not everything in this world is created equal, motors to be exact, not every motor comes out exactly from the factory some will be more reliable or feel more powerfull but bottom line is, they are built as close to spec as possible. You can definitely feel the difference as you adjust them and drive. I hope I am making things clear for you.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 13, 2009 - 10:17 AM

I think what he is saying is that he has heard that the valving on the shocks are all different, so in order for people to get the same dampening effect on each corner they had to adjust the dampner settings. He is also saying that he heard not all dampners are created equal. The stiffness of one unit at level 6 could be equal to level 16 on another, and so on.

I will tell you that no manufacturer would let something like that slip through QA. Unless another variable had been altered (spring travel) you can be sure that a level 14 dampner setting on one strut is a level 14 on all of them.

he might be asking if the damping of a megan set on the maximum damping level is less than, equal to, or greater than a tein, ksport, etc on the maximum damping level.

It is a very valid question. just having more tick marks doesnt mean it has a greater damping range.
For example, one model of coilover provides a damping range from 1,000 to 10,000 lb*s/in (I think thats the unit for damping) with 10 increments of 1,000
another model of coilover may provide a range of 500 to 13,000 lb*s/in with 5 increments of 2,500 each.

The first coilover would provide more adjustment, but the second would provide a wider range.

I wonder what the damping ranges are for each manufacturer?

Edit: changed 'coilover' to 'model of coilover' to clarify that I am talking about comparing two different brands of coilover

This post has been edited by jimmykay: Oct 13, 2009 - 5:02 PM

Your right about damper settings between different brands, types, but like i said between the two, even tein at full stiffness is still too soft for me, i thought my friend adjusted it to the softest but he had it had the hardest setting. but that is not just it, by having 32 way adjustability, major advantage is the ability to fine tune. Do I make any sense?

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I agree with your last paragraph, that was what I meant about consistency.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 13, 2009 - 4:58 PM

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Well, I can tell you this. I remember some shop doing a test on megan,d2, ksport and a few other companies to test how they rate up to Tein and higher priced items. The M/K-S/D2 had bad consistancy, such as spring rates not being the same all the way around and valving not being equal for stiffness settings.

But this is what happens when you use a cheap shop to make your parts.

Now, since then D2 has come back and actually started testing their products to verify they are atleast acceptable.

honestly not all things are created equal in this world, close but not exact. QA can only do so much there are many variables that keep consistency. What if they took a well built teins and coincidently took poorly builts (defects or not so well built to the standards) of the rest of the brands and tested it. The way to reduce variance and provide true statistics and sampling is to test perhaps with 100 teins, 100 megans, 100 d2, and so forth. Motors are not created equal some motors are built better overal, materials and assembly, in fact everything we get for our cars some have theirs last longer than others. Its all variables, the specifics you are looking for is not necessary unless you have one bad ass track car. but even at that money is the least of your worries if it is a true track car. Anyway what are trying to get out of these posts? We sound like WE need to be the QA inspectors for these coil overs or marketing directors.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 15, 2009 - 1:42 AM

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I honestly do not expect a company to buy 100 of each for tests. Sure that is the best way, then take the average from them.


However, if you buy an off the shelf set of each and test them. You should NOT have a set of D2s with 4 completely different spring rates. Or a set of Megans with valve settings that do not match up when set to a curtain number. Like I said, these tests are what caused D2 to start testing their products after they were made to verify they did not send out crazy setups with numbers nowhere close to what their spec says it should be.

I can honestly say as well that I have not seen a set of Teins or other high quality coilover snap from daily driving. I have seen photos of a Megan coilover that broke cleanly in half on a DD'd civic. In the car game, you pretty much get what you pay for. If something averages $1300 for a certain part, buying one for $800 will save you money in the short run but will not be an equal quality part.


With that stated. I am going to run a set of Megans. I could careless about track worthiness or corner balancing my car. They slam the lowest out of all the offerings of coilovers for our car.

This post has been edited by Harold_Fastwaker: Oct 15, 2009 - 7:51 PM

you wont regret it, had it on since Jan.

Good post and info! Just wanted to share "GB: Megan Racing Coilovers (94-99 Celica) & More!" We are offering a low price with free shipping to top it off! There are some photos in that thread of our install and some additional install info as well!

where was that free shipping when I needed it, I spent like 100 bucks to ship mine.

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It may make you feel better that the offer is only for the lower 48 states, so you didn't really miss out. On the other hand, sorry for the timing being off on this! Seriously, just let us know if there is anything else you are looking for for your Celica and we will see what we can do to help you out price/shipping wise.

alright, do you have a full catback exhaust made for our GT? i doubt it but its worth a try.

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Unfortunately, no. But the good news is that we are working to develop one along with a radiator shroud and engine under tray/panel for the 6GC. We have no further information right now, but as soon as any of these are available we will post here on 6GC.net

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

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The Megan Racing Coilovers are actually fully threaded. You adjust the height at the lower portion and don't lose any travel area.

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so height adjustment is not based on the spring compression which forces the damper travel to shorten as well right?

you never touch spring load on megans, there is a lower thread adjustment just for height. Unlike coil sleeves, when you adjust height, you also change spring load. Good thin about full coilovers is that everything is seperately adjustable.

i see. thanks trdproven