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Tigawoods
#421
sadly i will have to miss it.
and the unfortunate part is that that will be end of my auto-x for the summer.
The Coil is just too bad to put that kind of stress on it. I am taking it off on monday and shipping it to Ksport to get rebuilt. I am trying to go to Toronto this coming week so it will be good for me that the car will be out of sight out of mind. And when i get back hopefully the coil will be there

i possibly will be able to make one or two in the Pittsburgh area this fall.

timing is still a bit off.
got my A/F gauge today but AMCmoe forgot one of the wires in the package so i am trying to go pick it up from him tomorrow.
idle is a bit better than it was last night but it is still super rich and idles btwn 500-850 until eventually stalling out

monday is supposed to be a cooler day than the past few (95+)
so i am going to a local shop to get it tuned.

This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Jul 24, 2010 - 5:31 PM
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Batman722
#422
Mike, have you changed your 02 sensor ? Mine went bad a little while after I installed the cams...it's only like $35 at autozone for the universial 02 for our cars.
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Rusty
#423
have you tried the ECU reset?
ST202 SS-II CELICA threadNew Zealand members check inSticky thread's: How to contribute and troubleshoot.
Tigawoods
#424
same o2 sensor. maybe i should replace that before i got get it tuned on monday.
after how rich it had ran since it first started, yeah i bet it will be or is on the fritz


i havent really done much other than set the map on the SAFC to different settings. trial and error basically.
i have it at 3% correction at idle which helped even it out. as of now it idles from 690-790 but usually stays btwn 710-780 if im lucky.
after a bit it drops down to 500 then overcompensates and peaks up to 1100 then back down to 500 and keeps going in that pattern until i level it out back to 700 by giving it a bit of gas
hopefully i can get the plug from AMCmoe today and get a better view of how its running
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808celica
#425
tuning done yet????
I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
RvA944
#426
Hey Mike,

Well ya didn't miss much down there this weekend. Well I guess it would have depended on what class you would have run in. I was in HS and that was in the third heat. Most of us got one run in before it hit. Rain...... hail.... wind..... lighting........ it was nasty. So they called the third heat a washout. and sent us on our ways. frown.gif

Met a lot of good people down there and I'm looking forward to going back!

Hope the tunning is going well.
Tigawoods
#427
well no.
had an attempt at a tune.

Here is the situation the night before, note i have the gauge now.
I tuned it a bit myself the night before. Put the Correction at 9% at 800rpm to lean out the idle. still stayed at 10
also tried to fix the 4000rpm+ problem where the AFR would go from 13.5 to 10.

During Tune (which i paid $45 and i could have done it myself)
we went out for a drive and did a street tune.
he bumped the correction to 19% or so and the AFR at idle only went up to about 12.
We also bumped up the correction at 4000k and barely made a change.

we are taking the valve off tonight. checking a few things and doing a trial and error run.


called ksport today for a new shock. takes 2 weeks to get it in
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Batman722
#428
change the 02 sensor.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Rusty
#429
what are the specs of the cams you are running??
ST202 SS-II CELICA threadNew Zealand members check inSticky thread's: How to contribute and troubleshoot.
Tigawoods
#430
specs of the cams? or specs of the performance gain?

after a nice depressing talk to Stef and Dustin last night. We diagnosed and discovered the problem.
Valve shims.

The new shims that I had with the new cams are all different sizes and belong on different valves.
crap.
So this morning i have to gout out and get a feeler gauge, micrometer, and yes dustin a new o2sensor and measure all the gaps btwn the lobes and shims and figure out which ones need to go where.
looks like i gotta long week ahead of me
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Rusty
#431
specs of the cams
ST202 SS-II CELICA threadNew Zealand members check inSticky thread's: How to contribute and troubleshoot.
Rusty
#433
thanks for the info link batman. I had a feeling he might be going for those.

would be nice to compare dyno, when tiga is ready.
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Tigawoods
#434
i have time to dyno it the next 2 weeks. im taking a break from the car for a couple days. Friday night im going at it and hopefully i can finish it by sunday. And also maybe get a new caliper and flex pipe in that same time period as well
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Tigawoods
#435
well i took the exhaust cam off and measured the shims.
I got measurements from .1175" up to .1275"

while the exhaust cam was out i measured the valve clearances on the intake cam.
I started with the smallest feeler gauge .008"
it did not fit under a single one expect for the 6th valve. And on that valve i tried the next gauge and it did not clear.
frown.gif frown.gif


next i am going to take the intake cam out and check the measurements of those shims
from how they look they seem like they are the same as the ones as i took out of the exhaust valves. lets hope not, because i need alot more clearance room than what im getting thus far
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Batman722
#436
Exhaust Valve .............. .011-.015 (.29-.38)
Intake Valve ............... .007-.011 (.19-.29)
in. (mm)

This post has been edited by Batman722: Jul 29, 2010 - 9:21 PM
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Tigawoods
#437
thats a relief!
thanks dustin,
i was thinking that the gap needed to be a decent size bigger.
its funny because you cant even see a .008" gap.
it looked exactly the same as the one where the lobe was making contact
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Tigawoods
#438
i doubt this is all going to work with the shims i was given.
the only ones on the intake that are giving me clearance are the shims that are btwn .116-.118
and i only have 4 of them. and they are all on the intake leaving me with 4 other valves that dont clear.

and all the rest are on the exhaust and none of them clear as well.

from .122-.1275
they dont clear at all.

all the stock shims go from .105-.111
the only ones from the stock shims i will be able to use is .109 and above.

i would rather not order any because they wont get here until wednesday. I mean...i SHOULD wait but i really dont want to.
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Tigawoods
#439
SO!
Here is a note of where i am at with all the clearances

counting left to right on the valves as you go down the list
all measurements are in inches, my micrometer only does inches


>>INTAKE>>
>>clearance btwn .007-.011>>

SHIM GAP
.116 >>.008>>
.110 >>.010>>
.118 >>.008>>
.110 >>.016-17>>
.111 >>.016-17>>
.1175 >>.010>>
.109 >>.015>>

>>EXHAUST>>
>>clearance btwn .011-.015>>

SHIM GAP
.122 NO CLEARANCE
.109 >>.015>>
.109 >>.016>>
.109 >>.016>>
.1235 >>.008>>
.1085 >>.020-25>>
.122 NO CLEARANCE
.122 >>.008>>

_________________________________________________


This is a list of the remaining shims (excluding a few very small unusable shims)
.108 x2
.1085 x2
.124 x2
.1255 x2
.126
.1275x3


now...wtf do i do

This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Jul 31, 2010 - 4:12 PM
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RvA944
#440
Well........ if i was in your shoes there Mike I wouild wait and ge tthe right ones. You already have to apart why make more work for yourself and or risk hurting the head???????
Batman722
#441
heavy drinking tonight
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Tigawoods
#442
you mean at 5pm!!!!!
thats the afternoon!!!

and i got your message you delinquents



here is a copy of whats on the previous page for those of you who dont like to look for things lol

>
QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Jul 31, 2010 - 5:10 PM) *
>SO!
Here is a note of where i am at with all the clearances

counting left to right on the valves as you go down the list
all measurements are in inches, my micrometer only does inches


>>INTAKE>>
>>clearance btwn .007-.011>>

SHIM GAP
.116 >>.008>>
.110 >>.010>>
.118 >>.008>>
.110 >>.016-17>>
.111 >>.016-17>>
.116 >>.008>>
.1175 >>.010>>
.109 >>.015>>

>>EXHAUST>>
>>clearance btwn .011-.015>>

SHIM GAP
.122 NO CLEARANCE
.109 >>.015>>
.109 >>.016>>
.109 >>.016>>
.1235 >>.008>>
.1085 >>.020-25>>
.122 NO CLEARANCE
.122 >>.008>>

_________________________________________________


This is a list of the remaining shims (excluding a few very small unusable shims)
.108 x2
.1085 x2
.124 x2
.1255 x2
.126
.1275x3


now...wtf do i do


This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Aug 1, 2010 - 10:44 AM
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lagos
#443
Mike,

When I did my shims I was able to get away with swapping some of the intake and exhaust shims around to get the clearances that I needed. Just glancing at this it seems like you might be able to do this with a few of them.

Also make sure you are checking this correctly. You need to rotate the crack so that the cam lobes point straight up on each shim.
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Tigawoods
#444
yeah today i am going to see how many i can use for the ones that arent meeting up to the clearance standards.
SUPPOSEDLY my friend at an automotive school can get some of my shims remachined on monday while my flex pipe is getting fixed.
if thats the case then i may be in luck.
im making sure the lobes are straight up too.

so today im replacing my rear caliper. removing my midpipe. changing around some of the shims
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hurley97
#445
Just to throw a little twist in everything, as a last resort you can also try swapping the cups that the shims sit in. Those cups are all different too, btw. biggrin.gif
7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
Tigawoods
#446
when i take them out i will check them with the micrometer. NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANOTHER THING TO MEASUURREE!!!!
thus far 4 of them need a higher size and 4 need a lower size
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hurley97
#447
I used it as a last resort, there isn't really a good way to measure the buckets. But say you have like 3 or 4 valves that you just cant get right, just try switching the buckets under the shims and see what difference it makes. Try to keep that for last and keep it isolated to only a few valves cause that way is just a guessing game. Stick with what you are doing but just know that you can try that if it gets to that point.
7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
Tigawoods
#448
i had really nothing else to do today so i tried switching a couple of them after i measured them. which im still not sure if i did right.
and it didnt work. i was hopeful. but it didnt.

i guess. ill look back over my notes and see if there are any last minute possible options i have with switching them so i dont have to get alot of them reground on monday.
if the regrounding does go well. then i will make sure i get a couple extras reground as well so just incase if some arent the perfect fit i have others in various sizes
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Batman722
#449
and update smile.gif
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Tigawoods
#450
>>MY EAAARS!>>

that open downpipe sounds nasty

on an unrelated note does anybody know where you can buy new eardrums?

Click For Sound




p.s. sounds like sebulba's podracer


This post has been edited by Tigawoods: Aug 2, 2010 - 6:10 PM
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