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malpaso
#31
22nd of July, 2009 update:
$hit happens... I have no words. News from grinding shop (of what should I call place where engine is re-bored). Crank is useless... I need new crank or another 129kW 3SGE engine. And I need it fast... mad.gif
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presure2
#32
ahh man, that SUCKS!
hope you get sorted straight away.
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_Jim_
#33
What are your reasons for starting with a 3SGE over a 3SGTE?
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malpaso
#34
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QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Jul 22, 2009 - 2:31 PM) *
>What are your reasons for starting with a 3SGE over a 3SGTE?

To buy 3rd gen 3SGTE here is impossible... (cuz ST205 was not officially for sale here). There are available only some 2nd gen 3SGTEs from ST185 for price like $2000-2500. I had a lot of discussions with my technician here and finally decided for buying 129kW 3rd gen. 3SGE, rebuild and turbo it. Price of 3SGE like that is about $1000 here. That is the main reason why.
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808celica
#35
damn martin that sucks bug time frown.gif
I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
vincent_doggy
#36
Some of my goodies for 3SGE might help!!!
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malpaso
#37
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QUOTE (vincent_doggy @ Jul 22, 2009 - 7:57 PM) *
>Some of my goodies for 3SGE might help!!!


Thank you for support. I know you have tons of it... smile.gif. Today I may have another engine. Everything depends on condition of crank. So fingers crossed.
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SwissFerdi
#38
Good luck with the build, I believe this may be the first turbo'd 3S-GE...ever?
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malpaso
#39
27th of July, 2009... final update:
with almost tears in my eyes I must say it's over. Another two tries to get useful engine and nothing. I can not handle that anymore. My technician is not able to hold budget, timing and what we have agreed. So I have spend $6750 for parts so far but it's useless now...now I must think what to do. However this project is over frown.gif .
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azian_advanced
#40
ouch.. i was hoping for this project to go well. it sucks how things had to turn out this way.
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Tom_SS2
#41
you must be able to pick a 3S-GE or crank up from a breaker or sumat in Germany, just a quick trip over the border
malpaso
#43
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jul 27, 2009 - 8:14 AM) *
>umm cant you use a crank from a 4th gen 3sge. from my understanding and what info i got from rusty. Most internals between 4th and 3rd gen 3sge are the same.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-OEM-98-...sQ5fAccessories


Unfortunately it is not frown.gif. It's balanced different and it's thicker and if I remember right has also different number of flywheel nuts.
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BonzaiCelica
#44
really aahh thats sucks. well did what i could to help even though i couldn't be of much help.
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keison2000
#45
So your 7A still isn't putting out the power you want. You ever get any times for it. Congrads and GL
doGGy
#46
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QUOTE (malpaso @ Jul 26, 2009 - 5:29 PM) *
>27th of July, 2009... final update:
with almost tears in my eyes I must say it's over. Another two tries to get useful engine and nothing. I can not handle that anymore. My technician is not able to hold budget, timing and what we have agreed. So I have spend $6750 for parts so far but it's useless now...now I must think what to do. However this project is over frown.gif .


You are knocking on the WRONG doors Martin, if you spent so much - and still have nothing... I did Marchius swap for less amount of money including Caldina ST246 4gen 3SGTE motor, Mega squirt ECU, Custom FMIC, Full 3' exhaust, Tune-up, and custom Clutch...

If you told me - i would sourched you atleast 3 motors.... frown.gif But you never mentioned me about this project....

About 3SGE engines - last one i sold - price for it was 400$ including Titanium header by fujitsubo, and engine was in perfect condition with 80K km...

You can always go and buy 2gen 3SGE and go crazy with it...

If you need any help Martin - let me know... My shedule is super busy still - but i will do my best if you need something.


This post has been edited by doGGy: Jul 28, 2009 - 10:28 AM
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RbrtNdrws
#47
Don't give up on your dreams Martin!
malpaso
#48
Thanks folks.. now I'm just calculating what next. Half of my budged is gone (or let's say in parts I'm not sure I can use) and thinking what is the best way now. I still want more than 200HP and still do not want to give everything up. I hope there will be results soon...

To doGGy: Romas, I gave you some messages on April this year to confirm you start working on my car on May but you haven't answered. I just assumed you are oveloded with work so you just have no time. So I made decision. Wrong decision. Now I must deal with that kindasad.gif. I will send you message again and we try to figure out something. Shall we? smile.gif
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doGGy
#49
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QUOTE (malpaso @ Jul 29, 2009 - 12:51 AM) *
>Thanks folks.. now I'm just calculating what next. Half of my budged is gone (or let's say in parts I'm not sure I can use) and thinking what is the best way now. I still want more than 200HP and still do not want to give everything up. I hope there will be results soon...

To doGGy: Romas, I gave you some messages on April this year to confirm you start working on my car on May but you haven't answered. I just assumed you are oveloded with work so you just have no time. So I made decision. Wrong decision. Now I must deal with that kindasad.gif. I will send you message again and we try to figure out something. Shall we? smile.gif


No problem Martin! No problem at all!!! as i presume you are now not in a hurry - so we will figure out somthing definantly! Email me wink.gif
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Rusty
#50
-malpaso+
QUOTE (malpaso)
Unfortunately it is not . It's balanced different and it's thicker and if I remember right has also different number of flywheel nuts.

I think you might be getting confused with the blacktop 3sge. the redtop is still 6 nuts and blacktop is 8 or something like that, but I could be wrong?


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>Gen3
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1996_TOYO...BLMVF_1301.html

Gen4 (red)
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1999_TOYO...BLMZF_1301.html

Gen5 (black)
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1999_TOYO...AEFVF_1301.html


but you shouldn't always believe those pics
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richee3
#51
I really hope you get something figured out! I know you'll never get your money back for the work done to the motor, but after you get everything done, you'll surely be able to sell some of those parts to recover some of your losses. At least I hope so, for your sake. Best of luck to you! I was hoping after you got this done, it might be the next "featured ride."
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malpaso
#52
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Aug 9, 2009 - 2:21 AM) *
>I really hope you get something figured out! I know you'll never get your money back for the work done to the motor, but after you get everything done, you'll surely be able to sell some of those parts to recover some of your losses. At least I hope so, for your sake. Best of luck to you! I was hoping after you got this done, it might be the next "featured ride."


Thank you richee3 that means a lot for me. At last I can share some news. I took all money I have remaining from project and made another "evolution" step wink.gif. More info here.
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