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how can I get the coolant out of one of my cylinders? i think one of them is filled with coolant..

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(
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QUOTE (Superaison @ Jul 26, 2009 - 10:23 PM) *
>how can I get the coolant out of one of my cylinders? i think one of them is filled with coolant..

suck it out with a sucker machine, pulls a vacuum on a container and theres a long tube attached to suck stuff out.

why do you need it out? you're going to be yanking the engine and its just going to fill up with coolant again as soon as you try to crank the engine over.

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
I'm going to replace the engine.


Anything else I should replace while i'm at it? Radiator, etc?

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(
Yes, read above, Bitter recommended you replace the radiator since you super pressurized it and it'll likely crack with the new motor.

Replace ALL OF YOUR GASKETS, BELTS AND HOSES. Your motor (from a yard, I'm assuming) will NOT be warranted and you won't know the history of the replacement motor. I don't care how few miles it has on it, start out right and do all the gaskets, belts and hoses. Take the opportunity to do the timing belt, water pump, and clutch, too. If you're gonna have to drop a new engine in, you might as well have a good solid fresh start so you can avoid problems like this in the future.

The lesson here: when your car overheats, PULL OVER IMMEDIATELY. If you are a couple of miles from a safe place to pull over and you MUST drive (and I mean a COUPLE, not 30), turn on your heat full blast to help relieve some of the pressure.
Edit: beat me to it tongue.gif


Yeah, due to the circumstances, your radiator might have been damaged by the high pressure. Also, on the new motor, make sure you replace the timing belt while the motor is out. Since you won't know the history of the motor you might also want to replace things like gaskets (go buy a gasket kit for a 7A) water pump, thermostat, etx. General mainenance so that something simple doesn't go wrong once you have the new motor dropped in.



(I think all of this is actually just your car getting back at you for painting it flat black)

This post has been edited by 95CelicaST: Jul 27, 2009 - 11:45 AM

1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of moneyI'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet.**** Photobucket
I hate my car lol. I'm tempted to junk it. I'm trying to find an engine, but idk if i'll be able to find any. Also, by replacing my gaskets, do I have to tear my engine apart? Cause idk how to do that, and if i'm doing that I might as well rebuild my own.

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(
Basically you'll need to tear down the new motor to replace all of the seals and gaskets. Then you get to put it all back together. It's nice because you figure out how it all works. Go buy a torque wrench (if you don't have one already) and buy a chilton's or BGB (big green book) to walk you through opening up the motor, and putting back together properly and with the correct torque specs.


This isn't going to be a super cheap process. I hope you don't think that you'll just go to a yard, pull a motor, take it home, and drop it in.

1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of moneyI'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet.**** Photobucket
If it was only as easy as just dropping it in. Seriously, you have a real slim budget. If your block and head are able to be saved, then thats the route id go (if it were me). But if its way outta spec, might as well get a new engine. Either way, your gonna be down for a while. Even on Ebay, a typical rebuild kit is gonna run you half of you budget, some run upwards to 300. If you take that into factor, rebuilding it will be the best way to go (although on the kits you probly dont need the pistons). Then add up the labor involved with milling the head (which may not need to be done, I dunno), and your going to be well over your 400 mark. Just did some shopping for you and even the bare minimum of parts from rockauto is gonna run you 350, plus shipping. so again, over your 400 mark. Take into account that with a "new" used engine (that shouldnt run more than 450-500) and the parts you'll have to put into that one. Your looking upwards of maybe 800ish. So, if your old engine block/head are not that jacked up, your best bet will be to rebuild the existing engine. But either way, your going to be over budget.
My friends dad knows of a place that sells engines I can just plop in there. I don't wanna have to replace anything internally on the engine, I think it'll be hard enough just plopping the thing in there.

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(
Oh, your just gonna drop an engine in there. As long as you trust the place your getting it from, then go for it.
I also had this in mind:

15:34:45 ‹Superaison› how much do junkyards averagly give for a shell to a car?
27/07/2009 15:35:05 ‹boosted185› oh nevermind, i found a link i think
27/07/2009 15:35:16 ‹qatar11› Give?
27/07/2009 15:35:20 ‹qatar11› they might give you thanks
27/07/2009 15:35:24 ‹boosted185› depends on the size of the car...ive seen from 300-800 for a BARE shall, class already removed
27/07/2009 15:35:39 ‹Superaison› say a coupe celica shell..... lol...rolling
27/07/2009 15:35:40 ‹boosted185› glass**
27/07/2009 15:35:48 ‹Superaison› glass still there
27/07/2009 15:35:54 ‹boosted185› are you wanting to buy one, or take one TOO a junk yard?
27/07/2009 15:35:55 ‹Superaison› doors not there
27/07/2009 15:35:58 ‹Superaison› well
27/07/2009 15:36:52 ‹Superaison› i want a liftback, and a dude is selling one for $400 (due to the fact i've already taken the fenders and bumpers off it for my coupe) and it has a lifter ticking/nocking.... so I was thinking of frankenstiening the 2 cars, then parting off what I dont use, and junking the coupe shell... maybe lol.
27/07/2009 15:37:03 ‹Superaison› idk just curious, I <3 liftback celicas... a lot
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27/07/2009 15:37:26 ‹boosted185› not a bad idea!
27/07/2009 15:37:45 ‹boosted185› I do too
27/07/2009 15:38:25 ‹Superaison› i feel i could come out ahead
27/07/2009 15:38:32 ‹boosted185› If nothing else, you could take the leftover parts to a metal scrap yard, rather than a car junk yard. Just make sure you have a title to give them
27/07/2009 15:38:32 ‹Superaison› i have $400 exactly lmao
27/07/2009 15:38:45 ‹Superaison› think I could come out ahead?
27/07/2009 15:38:59 ‹Superaison› was thinking of parting one of the celi's here + ebay
27/07/2009 15:39:02 ‹boosted185› I'm sure you could get 400 in scrap
27/07/2009 15:39:25 ‹Superaison› well i'm just curious if it'd be a good investment, I want a running car, but If I could come out ahead with a liftback i'd do that lol
27/07/2009 15:39:30 ‹coosthunder› oh for those of you whom i shared that video with yestarday the civic hatch is running a h2b bored to a 2.4
27/07/2009 15:39:56 ‹boosted185› I'd go for it if I were you Super
27/07/2009 15:40:26 ‹boosted185› what extra parts would you have available?
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27/07/2009 15:40:41 ‹Superaison› everything... other than fenders + bumper... and like 1 engine
27/07/2009 15:40:52 ‹Superaison› but id have an auto tranny, ecu, full interior to 2 celi, etc
27/07/2009 15:40:53 ‹boosted185› Brent needs a few SMALL things and Leanna (wickedcustomsinc) needs doors BADLY
27/07/2009 15:42:26 ‹Superaison› my car is a 5spd
27/07/2009 15:43:00 ‹Superaison› id have to convert the other car to stick...which...would be easy imo, due to the fact id have 2 celicas 10 feet from eachother, 1 being a 5spd coupe and the other a auto liftback.......
27/07/2009 15:43:15 ‹Superaison› but the hard part would be frankensteining the 2 engines i think



What you guys think? lol.


I can't pick, frankenstien 2 cars and possibly learn and come out ahead, or 2 just get an engine.. no matter what i'll be without a car for a while, though...

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(
Why not? Before you go jumping into any projects, if youve never done thing like this before, I suggest getting the service manual, or at least a chiltons. And when your done, you can part it out.
What would you do? lol

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(
That depends. Your pretty much implying that your going to take the good parts off both engines, and make one functional engine? Well, I would just rebuild my engine with the 400 (although I might raise my budget). Reason being, I would have no idea what might be wrong with the other engine. I know you said it has a bad lifter, but what else dont you know about that engine. Lets assume that you "frankenstien" both engines. Well, your pretty much going to break them both down. And still have to spend the 200-300 for gaskets, belts, water pump, new plugs, wires, all that good stuff. So you back at square one, the money issue.
The only advantage of having both cars is that once your done you can try to make back some money by parting out everything you have double of. Then haul the shell to a salvage yard, which all they really are going to want is the glass/engine. Either way you do it, its going to be a good learning experience. And your going to be looking at some downtime. While your waiting, id start stripping and labeling. However you look at it, that engine is going to come out. Might as well take out yours, and check the cylinder head warpage and engine block warpage. You might find that you can get away with using it as is, or getting a little work done on it. This (click me) is really the first thing you should invest in before tearing down that engine. I have one, and its by far the best investment I could of ever made for my celica.
Sorry for rambling on.....
Rambling is OK when its advice.. I like advice, especially when I don't know where to start. But boosted185 is hopefully going to help me out.. He is checking a junkyard tomorrow for an engine and if its working for me. I will go from there most likely. So far this thread has been VERY helpful, in my opinion.

I still own my celica, but i'm parting it out and junking it.. Or selling as a whole. Have a honda prelude now :(