There is a universal turbo kit selling right now for like 250 american dollars and i was wanting to know if i put it on my 2.2 and only ran it at 10 to 15 psi if it will kill my motor? It is called a V-band T3/T4 turbo kit
10 psi on a 2.2? - 6G Celicas Forums
like what everyone will say:
Cheap, Reliable, Fast.
Now pick 2
Cheap, Reliable, Fast.
Now pick 2
I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
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IMO, anything more than 10 PSI on the stock 2.2 is too much. I personally wouldn't push more than 8 PSI. Compression ratio is too high for anything over 10 lbs. $250??? that's cheap..real cheap. Is it used? Ebay? You have a link?
>There is a universal turbo kit selling right now for like 250 american dollars and i was wanting to know if i put it on my 2.2 and only ran it at 10 to 15 psi if it will kill my motor? It is called a V-band T3/T4 turbo kit
IMO, anything more than 10 PSI on the stock 2.2 is too much. I personally wouldn't push more than 8 PSI. Compression ratio is too high for anything over 10 lbs. $250??? that's cheap..real cheap. Is it used? Ebay? You have a link?
-Jay95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve
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how bout 19.5 psi?
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IMO, anything more than 10 PSI on the stock 2.2 is too much. I personally wouldn't push more than 8 PSI. Compression ratio is too high for anything over 10 lbs. $250??? that's cheap..real cheap. Is it used? Ebay? You have a link?
>There is a universal turbo kit selling right now for like 250 american dollars and i was wanting to know if i put it on my 2.2 and only ran it at 10 to 15 psi if it will kill my motor? It is called a V-band T3/T4 turbo kit
IMO, anything more than 10 PSI on the stock 2.2 is too much. I personally wouldn't push more than 8 PSI. Compression ratio is too high for anything over 10 lbs. $250??? that's cheap..real cheap. Is it used? Ebay? You have a link?
how bout 19.5 psi?
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
-Jay95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve
Manny is running 19.5 Daily and Shannon is running 16.7 daily.
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
I bet pressure2's 5S Celica has more balls than mine, would definitely reel me in on a quartermile run after he's done doing a fwd burnout on the starting line.
Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
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Yes there is much fail here.
Manny and a few others on this site have proven without a shadow of a doubt that the stock 5S-FE is more than capable of withstanding 15+PSI daily on stock internals. It may be your opinion that the 5S shouldn't see more than 10PSI but your opinion is wrong.
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fail
...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? 
>how bout 19.5 psi? 
fail
Manny and a few others on this site have proven without a shadow of a doubt that the stock 5S-FE is more than capable of withstanding 15+PSI daily on stock internals. It may be your opinion that the 5S shouldn't see more than 10PSI but your opinion is wrong.
ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
im built up on 10psi daily, more psi to come
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lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
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fail
...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? 
>how bout 19.5 psi? 
fail
lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
zing!
+1 for Manny
+1 for Manny
So is it a no go cause we just got off the topic also manny do you know if i can put the 3sgte tranny on my 2.2?I want to turn it into AWD and keep my motor
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presure, why do you feel its necessary to own people soo badly?
Id be shocked if he posts something here again after that.
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lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
>>
fail
...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? 
>how bout 19.5 psi? 
fail
lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
presure, why do you feel its necessary to own people soo badly?
THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM!Still trying to find the cure for ST205 asthma..6gc.net's outlaw vigilante because im a LEADER not a follower.
Lol 
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up
), nice come back. I seriously thought you were trying to be funny, I didn't know the 5s could handle anything near 20 lbs with it having that high of a compression ratio. I guess I should have spent more time on 6gc before yanking the 5s for a 3s. I'm not trying to say I'm a know-it-all, but I've been "around the block" on cars, tuning school, engine swaps, used to work at a garage, grew up around muscle cars with my dad..blah blah. I've never liked the idea of turboing a stroker, unless its a V8 or V6 with a lower cr, I would rather turbo a car with a square or slightly oversquare crank, which is why I threw out the 5s, it just doesn't seem safe to turbocharge, maybe if the cr was lowered, added forged pistons, and replaced the head then I would feel safe about doing it. If I had known I could put 300hp to the wheels on stock internals I would have probably kept it. I usually look at the 500+ numbers in building an engine though. Can the 5s put that out safely, even building up the stock internals? My current goal is 600 hp at the wheel with the Gen III, and I believe I can do it. I usually aim high though.
No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction
? What was the other thing we were arguing about a month ago?
This post has been edited by match220: Aug 12, 2009 - 11:05 PM
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lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
>>
fail
...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? 
>how bout 19.5 psi? 
fail
lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up
No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction
This post has been edited by match220: Aug 12, 2009 - 11:05 PM
-Jay95 GT conv. project car: Manual, Gen III 3sgte, JN pisons, Eagle rods, overbore, crank knife-edged, crank scraper, ARP head/main/flywheel, Autronic EMS, Haltech Dual Wideband O2 controller, Audi 1.8T individual coils, FMIC and SSQV BOV, 3" downpipe, 3" ultra-high-flow cat, 2.5" Borla muffler, +other01 S2000: FMIC, Haltech EMS, Haltech wideband, 570cc inj, forged pistons/rods, sleeved block, 5 angle valve job, ported and polished02 R6, all stock, except for braided stainless brake lines, frame sliders, and adjustable brake/clutch leve
5sgte will get that and then some.
98 Celica gt red- totaled deer94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)94 Celica gt white (sold)In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
match220, sign up to mr2oc and start reading. there are tons of high hp build threads on there that you can learn from.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
well... off to find a 3sgte tranny then.
This post has been edited by my96celica: Aug 13, 2009 - 2:31 AM
This post has been edited by my96celica: Aug 13, 2009 - 2:31 AM
you can not just get an 3stge all-wheel drive tranny throw it on and have all wheel drive theres a lot that goes into it and only a few that have completed it.
Your best bet is to find an e153 lsd trans and set that up for the car and at least have front wheel lsd.
otherwise get a 5th gen alltrac or be one of the ones that do the whole rear wheel conversion.
Your best bet is to find an e153 lsd trans and set that up for the car and at least have front wheel lsd.
otherwise get a 5th gen alltrac or be one of the ones that do the whole rear wheel conversion.
facebookWRC st205
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That sir, is how you properly remove your foot from your mouth - well said.
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woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up
), nice come back. I seriously thought you were trying to be funny, I didn't know the 5s could handle anything near 20 lbs with it having that high of a compression ratio. I guess I should have spent more time on 6gc before yanking the 5s for a 3s. I'm not trying to say I'm a know-it-all, but I've been "around the block" on cars, tuning school, engine swaps, used to work at a garage, grew up around muscle cars with my dad..blah blah. I've never liked the idea of turboing a stroker, unless its a V8 or V6 with a lower cr, I would rather turbo a car with a square or slightly oversquare crank, which is why I threw out the 5s, it just doesn't seem safe to turbocharge, maybe if the cr was lowered, added forged pistons, and replaced the head then I would feel safe about doing it. If I had known I could put 300hp to the wheels on stock internals I would have probably kept it. I usually look at the 500+ numbers in building an engine though. Can the 5s put that out safely, even building up the stock internals? My current goal is 600 hp at the wheel with the Gen III, and I believe I can do it. I usually aim high though.
No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction
? What was the other thing we were arguing about a month ago?
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lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
>>
fail
...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? 
>how bout 19.5 psi? 
fail
lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up
No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction
That sir, is how you properly remove your foot from your mouth - well said.
ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
just to point out you guys might want to say what size turbo your running (ct-26) etc
cause 19.5 psi on the 3sgte turbo for example = x amount of power
but 19.5 psi on a t3t4 60 trim or whatever trim = alot more power
just my 2 cents
cause 19.5 psi on the 3sgte turbo for example = x amount of power
but 19.5 psi on a t3t4 60 trim or whatever trim = alot more power
just my 2 cents
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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I am ok with dong the conversion i just want to know if the 3sgte tranny will match up.I know i have to move the gas tank among the whole front wheel to all wheel conversion. thats why im thinking manny coud walk me through it cause i want to try it soon.
>you can not just get an 3stge all-wheel drive tranny throw it on and have all wheel drive theres a lot that goes into it and only a few that have completed it.
Your best bet is to find an e153 lsd trans and set that up for the car and at least have front wheel lsd.
otherwise get a 5th gen alltrac or be one of the ones that do the whole rear wheel conversion.
Your best bet is to find an e153 lsd trans and set that up for the car and at least have front wheel lsd.
otherwise get a 5th gen alltrac or be one of the ones that do the whole rear wheel conversion.
I am ok with dong the conversion i just want to know if the 3sgte tranny will match up.I know i have to move the gas tank among the whole front wheel to all wheel conversion. thats why im thinking manny coud walk me through it cause i want to try it soon.
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FIRST off, i want to clarify i'm not trying to be an asshole.. i just am one. secondly, i'm not trying to pick a fight, just flipping a biscuit because i don't fully understand what you're going for on here...
dude.. are we talking AWD or FF??!? 600whp on FF is PROBABLY not such a good idea.. you'll have to deal with torque steer, you'll need to worry about your control arms, and the rest of the steering assembly... not to mention your power-steering pumps (and the rest of the whole dealey).... and what happens when your power-steering goes out pushing that much power? i'm assuming if you have that much power, you're going to be going FAST..... my goal is only 500whp on FF in my GT, and that's really only to say "i have 500whp" and also to guarantee i can easily get up to 400whp without a hiccup......
and that's with a rev3 3S-GTE, forged internals, COMPLETELY built up, and either a Borg Warner or custom turbo....
now going AWD, i've seen people get up to 600-700whp online before, but never seen this in person... good luck if you're wanting to push that much, let me know how it works out.... (also - let me know what turbo you have to use and how baldy it lags)...
also: what ECU (or piggyback) are you planning on using? how much money do you intend to spend? do you already have your mods planned out?
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woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up
), nice come back. I seriously thought you were trying to be funny, I didn't know the 5s could handle anything near 20 lbs with it having that high of a compression ratio. I guess I should have spent more time on 6gc before yanking the 5s for a 3s. I'm not trying to say I'm a know-it-all, but I've been "around the block" on cars, tuning school, engine swaps, used to work at a garage, grew up around muscle cars with my dad..blah blah. I've never liked the idea of turboing a stroker, unless its a V8 or V6 with a lower cr, I would rather turbo a car with a square or slightly oversquare crank, which is why I threw out the 5s, it just doesn't seem safe to turbocharge, maybe if the cr was lowered, added forged pistons, and replaced the head then I would feel safe about doing it. If I had known I could put 300hp to the wheels on stock internals I would have probably kept it. I usually look at the 500+ numbers in building an engine though. Can the 5s put that out safely, even building up the stock internals? My current goal is 600 hp at the wheel with the Gen III, and I believe I can do it. I usually aim high though.
No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction
? What was the other thing we were arguing about a month ago?
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lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
>>
fail
...if you're trying to be funny, don't you mean 9.5 PSI? 
>how bout 19.5 psi? 
fail
lmao.
last i checked, i didnt notice that you had a 5sfte, so how would you REALLY know whats safe on a 5s, and whats not?
other than what you've read on the intranets.
i run ~ 17-18psi, every day.
19+at the track.
i've build more 5sfte's than you've prolly ever seen.
read my sig, my 5sfte makes 300+whp.
i've run 13.6 @ 108mph..what have YOU done with your 5s?
ohh wait, youve got a 3rd gen swap.
i've done a couple of those too. and a couple 2nd gen swaps.
big deal.
still think i fail or am trying to be funny?
woah woah..lol..(i'm really laughing, I'm not just saying "lol" because I'm mad and trying to cover it up
No more arguing bro..how about a simple correction
FIRST off, i want to clarify i'm not trying to be an asshole.. i just am one. secondly, i'm not trying to pick a fight, just flipping a biscuit because i don't fully understand what you're going for on here...
dude.. are we talking AWD or FF??!? 600whp on FF is PROBABLY not such a good idea.. you'll have to deal with torque steer, you'll need to worry about your control arms, and the rest of the steering assembly... not to mention your power-steering pumps (and the rest of the whole dealey).... and what happens when your power-steering goes out pushing that much power? i'm assuming if you have that much power, you're going to be going FAST..... my goal is only 500whp on FF in my GT, and that's really only to say "i have 500whp" and also to guarantee i can easily get up to 400whp without a hiccup......
and that's with a rev3 3S-GTE, forged internals, COMPLETELY built up, and either a Borg Warner or custom turbo....
now going AWD, i've seen people get up to 600-700whp online before, but never seen this in person... good luck if you're wanting to push that much, let me know how it works out.... (also - let me know what turbo you have to use and how baldy it lags)...
also: what ECU (or piggyback) are you planning on using? how much money do you intend to spend? do you already have your mods planned out?
