I just ordered a apexi power fc and hopfully I get it repined. So the upgrade starts with this.
might keep my car so what upgrades next - 6G Celicas Forums
Best move you could have made at this point.
One draw back to the PFC is that it has no Knock Control.....So make sure you have a very good tuner, that he is aware of this, and maybe think about hooking a J&S knock guard system on your car somewhere down the line.
One draw back to the PFC is that it has no Knock Control.....So make sure you have a very good tuner, that he is aware of this, and maybe think about hooking a J&S knock guard system on your car somewhere down the line.
330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
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It still logs knock and flashes your cel. It just doesnt try to retard your timing when it senses it. Really not a huge issue since the car needs to be tuned from the ground up anyway.
QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Sep 14, 2009 - 6:06 PM) 
>Best move you could have made at this point.
One draw back to the PFC is that it has no Knock Control.....So make sure you have a very good tuner, that he is aware of this, and maybe think about hooking a J&S knock guard system on your car somewhere down the line.
One draw back to the PFC is that it has no Knock Control.....So make sure you have a very good tuner, that he is aware of this, and maybe think about hooking a J&S knock guard system on your car somewhere down the line.
It still logs knock and flashes your cel. It just doesnt try to retard your timing when it senses it. Really not a huge issue since the car needs to be tuned from the ground up anyway.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
Anyway on ECUs with knock control, this is not precise because there is no compensation with knock threshold. So the knock control won't hear the noise in low RPM as you have set it for high RPM sound/knock.
The advantage with Power FC is that you can monitor knock live while daily driving, and it records the last peak.
Anyway, the max power ignition tuning isn't possible without a dyno. On a dyno, the peak power is obtained in timing advance much before knock is coming.
So if you get knock on a Power FC, with your advantage to monitorize knock, you have to retard back from 2-3 degrees the timing but max power is not really obtained.
Another big advantage, if your timing is set for 93 fuel, and the only fuel that is near is 91, you won't blow the engine. You can retard the whole ignition MAP in seconds with the commander.
The advantage with Power FC is that you can monitor knock live while daily driving, and it records the last peak.
Anyway, the max power ignition tuning isn't possible without a dyno. On a dyno, the peak power is obtained in timing advance much before knock is coming.
So if you get knock on a Power FC, with your advantage to monitorize knock, you have to retard back from 2-3 degrees the timing but max power is not really obtained.
Another big advantage, if your timing is set for 93 fuel, and the only fuel that is near is 91, you won't blow the engine. You can retard the whole ignition MAP in seconds with the commander.
Well I just found out that the apexi was for a gen 3. I called ats and asked if they do a rom tune for a ats td06 turbo kit for a st185 3sgte. They do so I just cancaled the order for the apexi fc. How well does the ats rom tune work. I have a ats td06 complete kit in the works. SoI am thinking ats td06 turbo kit 550cc injectors and get ats to rom tune my ecu Hoe does that sound
I am torn between the apexi fc because of the repinning or what not or getting the ats rom tune. I am definitly getting the ats td06 kit
I am torn between the apexi fc because of the repinning or what not or getting the ats rom tune. I am definitly getting the ats td06 kit
Just ordered my water meth injection cooling mist setup. Cant wait til its on bthe car!!