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Topic #6956 29 posts Started by ToYCeLi8
IT HAS A LOT OF POWER, and its addicting >biggrin.gif> >bowdown.gif> THe beautiful 3SGTE gives out a lot of power that a FWD celi cant handle. ITs hard to get any traction. All i do it spinn forever, hardly ever move.

I went to the track this passed saturday, the 25th. It was not a good day for me...

well i guess ill just put the times and stuff up and you guys be the judge. Just to LET you know i was running w/ KUHMO 711 tires w/ 17's. I should of been in the 13's like everyone says.
BAD START
1st - r/t = 1.036, 1/4 = 15.873 vs early 90's RX-7 r/t = 1.276 1/4 = 28.288 haha >thumbsdown.gif>

2nd - r/t = 1.004, 1/4 = 16.518 vs 97+ HONDA Accord r/t = 1.288 1/4 = 16.886

gets even worse
3rd - r/t = 1.242, 1/4 = 16.812, >thumbsdown.gif> (ok here i was ready to go home) lost to a Type R, 1/4 = 14.778

JUST WHEN I HOPED THINGS WOULDNT GET ANY WORSE... >cwm13.gif>
4th - r/t = 1.146, 1/4 = 14.234 >biggrin.gif> vs 97+ neon r/t = .824, 1/4 = 14.369

THere was a long break for about 2+ hours for the other categories run, so i went to go celebrate. then we started for another run.

5th - r/t = 1.186, 1/4 = 15.666 >frown.gif> vs Don't remember what i ran here...

another BREAK... I walked around the show area and i heard the anouncers say that the one of the tire boths was LENDING OUT DRAG TIRES AND RIMS!!!! Sweet so i went to go borrow a pair (Had to leave a credit card and my D.L ).

6th - r/t = .975, 1/4 = 14.629, vs Mazda Miata r/t = .629, 1/4 = 16.098

7th - r/t = .800, 1/4 = 14.395 vs 00+ MR2 spyder r/t = .661, 1/4 = 16.133

8th and final - r/t = .833, 1/4 = 14.320 vs 92 (+/-) INTEGRA GS-r, r/t = 1.235, 1/4 = 16.126 hahahaha >owned.gif>
Im not sure but i think i later saw this same integra and the R was actually a STICKER >cwm13.gif> Just like a honda owner >thumbsdown.gif>

Well i was kinda satisfied, by the end of the day, but NOT happy.

Feel free to say what you want, i know i did bad.. >frown.gif> >thumbsdown.gif> >frown.gif>

David

oh btw- i also got a free dyno, the i got 226hp at the wheel. I guess that isn't good. My times should be lower w/ those #'s
so what can be done to fix this? im extremely interested, please keep us posted
there are two ways to solve the problem

get an lsd

or

use that 226whp to pass the other guy after you let them get a little bit ahead.

but seriously, just practice. its hard to go from ~95 whp to 226whp

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226 horsepower at the wheels is awesome! I'm sure that an LSD would help quite a bit like 97sccelica said. Running a 14.2 is still awesome! >smile.gif>

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You know what... slap on some 14" steelies with slicks and practice your launch a bit more. I honestly think you can get good launches even with 226whp... especially with slicks. And you mentioned 100+ mph trap speeds... you can easily hit high 13's...

Heh... a couple of mid-high 16 runs...even I woulda embarassed ya... ;P
what track do you race at? open to the public? in the socal area?
dont you have the apexi avc-r?

you can set it so it boosts low like 8 psi in first gear then raise it in higher gears

that will help the spin.
yea thats not good... just so you know i'm going to hate you from now on.. lol.. well nice to see you had fun killin them guys... and yea try to get a LSD and also work on your starts that even more important then the LSD... and for the mean time you can just start in 2nd..

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Look around for some wider wheels/tires as well. The more rubber on the ground the more traction.
newbie question: if someone could explain what exactly an lsd does it would be helpful
-blkGT+Oct 27, 2003 - 7:21 AM
wow thanks kuya... this was an extremely informational site, i was on it for a while
I'm not sure if you've done your suspension as yet. But a nice set of stiff shocks will help. Try Koni yellows. Next get some good tires. I suggest toyo t-1s. If the wallet allows it, and LSD would be a deffinite plus.
Are u pushing the ST205 or ST185 ?

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get your launchs down more and get better at controling the power in the car before getting a LSD.

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-Supersprynt+Oct 27, 2003 - 11:11 AM

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-LuDaChRiS+Oct 27, 2003 - 12:40 AM
Just learn to control the power and you should be able to get high 13's. You cut more then a second off since the run at palmdale. So after more practice you should be able to get into the 13's . >biggrin.gif>
yeah david, just work on your launch.


I'll go out there with you soon . >biggrin.gif>

oh, and i got a chance to see David's car in person and OMFG. His car is SICK.

This post has been edited by sphinx_race911: Oct 27, 2003 - 11:01 PM

Definately practice, practice practice....launches and shifting speed and what kinda tires you use and at what pressure will help your times alot im sure.

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
try launching at 3000rpm to avoid all that wheel spin, that should help u alot. i have similar problems with my car but i still managed to keep a type r with jackson racing supercharger and slicks at bay. i plan on getting slicks and an lsd then raising my boost to 17psi.
i'm tellin ya man

program that avc-r and you will be set

i wish i could find my manual so i could help ya.
Hey can any of you guys tell me how the celica handles on the road with the 3sgte swap?
-Matthew+Oct 27, 2003 - 3:32 PM
would upgrading your axles have any advantage?
-macavely+Oct 27, 2003 - 1:25 AM
taking off in second is a waste of time trust me.
-sphinx_race911+Oct 27, 2003 - 12:57 PM