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Topic #69832 13 posts Started by freddy121389
I want to upgrade power but my cars automatic transmission is definitely going to hold me back, I hear of everyone talking about throwing in the E-153 but what about the automatic transmission for the camry instead? would that work in my car and maybe hold more power than the tranny I have in my car now? I really don't want to go through the hastle of swapping in a manual transmission but if that's my only option I guess I have a while to go considering my limited knowledge of the matter and I having no money. Or what about the Beams automatic transmission, is there anyway to convert that to only fwd rather than have it as the awd.

This post has been edited by freddy121389: Oct 1, 2009 - 12:06 PM

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camry v6 transmission would fit probably but youd need new mounts and axels, 4 cylinder camry would still be weak.

I'm not even sure if beams came with an auto transmission, if it did it would be a fair amount stronger but rare...

Why not just go manual? It's not that bad in city driving, but its great on a good road.
it's more of the fact that i don't have anyone that would be willing to help me, because I've never done anything like that before, and paying a professional to do it is just to expensive i'd rather sell my car and get a different one but I really don't want to sell my car just because of a transmission.

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BEAMS did come with auto.

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QUOTE (Euphoria @ Oct 1, 2009 - 8:37 PM) *
>camry v6 transmission would fit probably but youd need new mounts and axels, 4 cylinder camry would still be weak.

I'm not even sure if beams came with an auto transmission, if it did it would be a fair amount stronger but rare...

Why not just go manual? It's not that bad in city driving, but its great on a good road.



big city? he lives in nebraska laugh.gif

A540E or A541E are the tranny's you are looking at. they form from the 40E comes from the first gen v6 camry, the 41E is 96-01, research if they will bolt up to a 5s-fe!
you'll need the right ECM to run any toyota transmission ending in E, they're electronically controlled by the computer. so a V6 camry trans would need a V6 camry computer, etc etc.

not to mention gearing is WAY different, 1st and 2nd gear ratios as well as final drive are totally different and not at all suited for a 4 cylinder engine.

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QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 2, 2009 - 8:40 AM) *
>you'll need the right ECM to run any toyota transmission ending in E, they're electronically controlled by the computer. so a V6 camry trans would need a V6 camry computer, etc etc.

not to mention gearing is WAY different, 1st and 2nd gear ratios as well as final drive are totally different and not at all suited for a 4 cylinder engine.



v6 solara uses e153?.... seems to work fine in a 4cyl?

This post has been edited by Mstoochn: Oct 2, 2009 - 2:01 PM
Manual and auto transmissions are completely different. You don't get to choose when the car shifts with an automatic, it shifts when the ECU tells it to. Since the V6 camry auto trans would need the v6 ecu to function you're basically hosed, unless you want to swap the V6 in.


E153 is a manual and isn't controlled by the ECU, which is why it can be used. It's suited for a V6, but that is just added strength for a 4cyl.

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i reccomend (strongly) the E53

E53 (old camry v6)
1st: 3.538
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.333
4th: 1.028
5th: .820
Final drive: 3.625

E153 (camry/solara v6)
1st: 3.23
2nd: 1.913
3rd: 1.258
4th: .918
5th: .731
final drive: 3.933

S54

First Gear: 3.285:1
Second Gear: 1.960:1
Third Gear: 1.322:1
Fourth Gear: 1.028:1
Fifth Gear: 0.820:1
Final Drive: 4.176:

This post has been edited by bdub215: Oct 3, 2009 - 11:53 PM

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QUOTE (bdub215 @ Oct 4, 2009 - 4:52 AM) *
>i reccomend (strongly) the E53

E53 (old camry v6)
1st: 3.538
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.333
4th: 1.028
5th: .820
Final drive: 3.625

E153 (camry/solara v6)
1st: 3.23
2nd: 1.913
3rd: 1.258
4th: .918
5th: .731
final drive: 3.933

S54

First Gear: 3.285:1
Second Gear: 1.960:1
Third Gear: 1.322:1
Fourth Gear: 1.028:1
Fifth Gear: 0.820:1
Final Drive: 4.176:


Why? Gears are too tall if you ask me...

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i see it like this: my celica and my ES300 have the same gear ratios just different final drives. at 65mph in the celica im doing 3000rpms. in the lexus its 2850. too tall? i dont think so.

This post has been edited by bdub215: Oct 9, 2009 - 10:23 PM

90 Toyota Celica (S53) totaled R.I.P98 Toyota Corolla (C59) 183k 117whp needs a tune93 Lexus ES300 (E53) 120k Its a stick95 Lexus Sc300 AutoTragic FTL
BEAMS wasn't AWD. If you are going to swap auto transmissions, then it's only a little bit more work to make it a manual, and worthwhile. Besides the transmission swap, you'd just have to install new pedals, shifter linkage, and various other bits and pieces, but it'd be way worth it, and not a whole, whole lot more work.

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well if i can find someone willing to help me and guide me in this i would, this is my daily so that the only reason i don't venture on my own

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