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17X9 Wrapped with 245/45/17 tires.
Staggered offset, ET 17 For the rear and ET 28 for the fronts.

This post has been edited by salv: Mar 27, 2012 - 9:25 PM

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Hello 6GC, hope u guys can help,

i just purchased Miro stp1 Rims, size-17x10 all around with an offset of 25, and falken ze-912 215/35zr17 Tires, pictures below...
i have alot of wheel shops around my area that are telling me its not possible to mount them,..according to the info givien in this sticky
i should be able to =) Now here is my confusion, for the front riding on 10' my offset should be et+45mm, if my offset on the rims are 25,
does this mean i need 20mm spacers to add up to +45mm,.and for the rear i will need a 5mm spacer...? not sure how to calculate the offsets.

FOR THE FRONT WHEELS ONLY **Your fronts should have been rolled from the factory. 9.0+ will probably need a bit of a roll to crush the plastic liner in a bit.
10.0" ---------- et+45mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)

FOR THE REAR WHEELS ONLY **You need to roll your fenders for all of these.
10.0" ---------- et+30mm (Will start to cut it close with the strut. Negative camber may be needed. My best guess is you will be alright)

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QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 11, 2012 - 7:40 AM) *
>Hello 6GC, hope u guys can help,

i just purchased Miro stp1 Rims, size-17x10 all around with an offset of 25, and falken ze-912 215/35zr17 Tires, pictures below...
i have alot of wheel shops around my area that are telling me its not possible to mount them,..according to the info givien in this sticky
i should be able to =) Now here is my confusion, for the front riding on 10' my offset should be et+45mm, if my offset on the rims are 25,
does this mean i need 20mm spacers to add up to +45mm,.and for the rear i will need a 5mm spacer...? not sure how to calculate the offsets.

FOR THE FRONT WHEELS ONLY **Your fronts should have been rolled from the factory. 9.0+ will probably need a bit of a roll to crush the plastic liner in a bit.
10.0" ---------- et+45mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)

FOR THE REAR WHEELS ONLY **You need to roll your fenders for all of these.
10.0" ---------- et+30mm (Will start to cut it close with the strut. Negative camber may be needed. My best guess is you will be alright)

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They wont fit man sorry.. they are already et20 if you add 20mm spacers the offset will become et0 and is going to stick out more. When you add spacers the offset goes lower no higher.
They will fit but you wont be able to lower it too much because even if you roll the fenders tbe wheels will hit because they are going to be sticking out a lot! Tbey are nice wheela though!
i bet he could do it if he worked on the fender quite a bit, and found the sweet spot with the camber and ride height

its definitely not plug and play though

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Your going to need some SERIOUS fender work, and lots of luck, to have this coming even close to fitting..

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QUOTE (diegohiga @ Apr 12, 2012 - 7:13 AM) *
>They wont fit man sorry.. they are already et20 if you add 20mm spacers the offset will become et0 and is going to stick out more. When you add spacers the offset goes lower no higher.
They will fit but you wont be able to lower it too much because even if you roll the fenders tbe wheels will hit because they are going to be sticking out a lot! Tbey are nice wheela though!

they are actually et25, dont know if that will change anything, but thanks alot on the info,.. i guess the image i had in my head of what they would look like on my car isnt possible. so i wouldnt even be able to ride with them with oem suspension...?


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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 12, 2012 - 8:44 AM) *
>i bet he could do it if he worked on the fender quite a bit, and found the sweet spot with the camber and ride height

its definitely not plug and play though

yea i now see that its not gonna be easy and a lil more costly than the rims themselves..
any ideas where i might be able to get some camber kits ?


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QUOTE (jordisonjr @ Apr 12, 2012 - 9:11 AM) *
>Your going to need some SERIOUS fender work, and lots of luck, to have this coming even close to fitting..

im gonna have to search and find a good shop for this.. question is, how much can i pull a fender before it starts looking ridiculous..

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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 12, 2012 - 9:26 AM) *
>Do it

LOL, this made me laugh, im gonna try my best.. very determined !
just pull it and find out!

I was talking about this with Garin another member...I am not sure if you have the resources/time/huevos
to cut the fender and put custom over fenders on the car.
I was always curious to see what thatd look like

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Can you even get celica overfenders? lol

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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 13, 2012 - 7:13 AM) *
>just pull it and find out!

I was talking about this with Garin another member...I am not sure if you have the resources/time/huevos
to cut the fender and put custom over fenders on the car.
I was always curious to see what thatd look like



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QUOTE (jordisonjr @ Apr 13, 2012 - 8:47 AM) *
>Can you even get celica overfenders? lol


maybe i will ride fenderless,.. jk
but today i will put them on and take down some measurments and see what are my options,..
ill post up pics for suggestions...
any successful 9.5" or 9" ? jus wondering, would like to see some pics ..
Just to verify what im understanding,

How would:
18x8.5 +35 Front
18x9.5 +35 Rear Sit? (I can always add a 5mm spacer)

I'd like the rims to be as flush as possible, no need for massive poke.
Will they clear my BC Coilovers?

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My Enkei's are 7" wide and +35. They sit in about an inch in the rear and quarter inch to half in the front. I think 8.5 and 9.5 would be perfect. The only place I can see an issue with is inside near the strut.

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Yeah that was my main concern, but I think my coilovers are a lot thinner than the oem so it should be fine. Thinking of 18x8+25 now haha

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QUOTE (Timmyface @ Apr 16, 2012 - 6:52 PM) *
>Yeah that was my main concern, but I think my coilovers are a lot thinner than the oem so it should be fine. Thinking of 18x8+25 now haha

That should be pretty flush for all four. You may need spacers for the rear.

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Edit: 18x9+25 for rear haha. Rims that fit are just hard to come by

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Wait... my Enkeis are -35.... *confused*

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QUOTE (RabidTRD @ Apr 16, 2012 - 5:10 PM) *
>Wait... my Enkeis are -35.... *confused*


No, +35.

Negative offset is some EXTREME dish.

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QUOTE (Cudi @ Apr 13, 2012 - 8:13 AM) *
>any successful 9.5" or 9" ? jus wondering, would like to see some pics ..


This guy has 18x9.5 wheels. Of course, he has a GT-Four... dunno how different the procedure would be for SuperStrut. But it's worth a PM

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/st205-14183

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with natural camber you can fit pretty wide wheels, for sure up to 9.5 but you gotta figure out the offset, plus you can still pull if you want to. 7th gens are running 9.0-9.5-10 with roll and pull, with 10-20 offsets at the lowest ive seen. 7th gen clubs seem to be more into flush scene than the 6th gens. i have both gens, and our gens seem to have lots of room when I look at both cars.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Apr 16, 2012 - 8:05 PM

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This is flush lol 18x8.5 et23 rear et33 front
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QUOTE (diegohiga @ Apr 17, 2012 - 1:13 AM) *
>This is flush lol 18x8.5 et23 rear et33 front

what does et23 mean? cuz i have those same wheels in 17x8.5. 5zigen gn+
what does et23 mean? cuz i have those same wheels in 17x8.5. 5zigen gn+
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Offset the offset of these wheels are 48 but i have 25mm spacers on the back and 15mm on the front that
makes the offset of my wheels 23 on the back and 33 on.the front
^ sounds like you can run wider wheels, i assume your camber is not hella negative?

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QUOTE (trdproven @ Apr 17, 2012 - 3:11 AM) *
>^ sounds like you can run wider wheels, i assume your camber is not hella negative?

Yeah i could use 9.5 wheels high.a higher.offset but i think 8.5 wide is good enough. And yes it is negative. My tires show the camber wear a lot.
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QUOTE (Timmyface @ Apr 13, 2012 - 10:12 PM) *
>Just to verify what im understanding,

How would:
18x8.5 +35 Front
18x9.5 +35 Rear Sit? (I can always add a 5mm spacer)

I'd like the rims to be as flush as possible, no need for massive poke.
Will they clear my BC Coilovers?


I would get 18x8.5+35 all around and get 15mm spacers.for the back. Will sit pretty flush!
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QUOTE (HectortheRican @ Apr 16, 2012 - 7:55 PM) *
>This guy has 18x9.5 wheels. Of course, he has a GT-Four... dunno how different the procedure would be for SuperStrut. But it's worth a PM

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/st205-14183


thats jus a PERFECT ride,.. thanks

Here are some pics of 17x10 on my ST.
BTW, i totally disagree with the look, rims are off until coils and cambers are found and bought. ..where?





jeebus! look at that gap!

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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Apr 19, 2012 - 7:31 AM) *
>jeebus! look at that gap!

JEEBUS... <-- LOL

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Apr 19, 2012 - 8:17 AM) *
>Does look better than I thought. Drop that sucker!

Workin on it,.. soon ! =]

i saw the thread for coils, is there one for cambers ?