Has any one done the 4a-ge or the gze, i have an st an was reading alot about the 3s-gte conversion....and it seams a little much and was readin that the 4a-geor gze engine is a direct drop in for the st...?? is that right? like would i have to do all new harness an all, or what?

The 4A-GE will drop in fairly easily, but you'll have troubles with some things such as the power steering and a couple other small things. The 4A-GZE requires a lot more modification, and I've yet to see a finished installation of this engine. John has had a lot of trouble with his 4A-GZE swap.

With either swap, wiring is going to be very tough, and your harnesses will both require extensive modification.

I'm currently doing the 20V AE101 4A-GE swap, and it should be done soon, so I'll let everyone know how it turns out. Also, Xpander has done the swap before, and his car is done. Hope this helps. >>

Coomer thanks alot, that does kinda help.... kinda in a way, cause now i think im droping the idea of doing a swap... they all seem so freakin difficult.... I almost want a honda cause there so easy.... an i said Almost... I might just go back to Bimmers..... or fix my front end of mine....

This post has been edited by Digndoug: Oct 28, 2003 - 11:59 PM