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Topic #70124 23 posts Started by 96stgreendemon
96stgreendemon
#1
i was thinking about buying some ebay headers for my celica, was just wondering if anyone had a set and how they sound, i already haave a short ram on but dont want it to sound ricey. or should i just bite the bullet and buy the $300 obx headers
1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
Bitter
#2
iirc the obx and ebay ones are the same.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
Promasta
#3
the surewinproducts header is $75+shipping
the obx header is $250+shipping

i have no idea what the difference is, but they will both sound ricey (well that's my opinion, but also a lot of other peoples' opinion)
i would do catback with 2.25" custom piping, a 2.25" vibrant ultra quiet resonator and a 60mm apex'i ws2 universal muffler
well that set up is kinda pricey, but would sound amazing.
TinoCel
#4
Just installed my surewin's tonight actually. With my cold air intake i cant tell TOO much of a sound difference, doesnt make it ricey at all. Can definitely tell its breathing better.

Edit: Im on stock exhaust too.

This post has been edited by TinoCel: Oct 18, 2009 - 8:17 PM
Promasta
#5
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QUOTE (TinoCel @ Oct 18, 2009 - 9:16 PM) *
>Just installed my surewin's tonight actually. With my cold air intake i cant tell TOO much of a sound difference, doesnt make it ricey at all. Can definitely tell its breathing better.

Edit: Im on stock exhaust too.


really? maybe the ones on youtube removed the resonator.
if you could make a vid you would be my hero.
96stgreendemon
#7
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QUOTE (TinoCel @ Oct 18, 2009 - 9:16 PM) *
>Just installed my surewin's tonight actually. With my cold air intake i cant tell TOO much of a sound difference, doesnt make it ricey at all. Can definitely tell its breathing better.

Edit: Im on stock exhaust too.



yea i just got my celica 2 weeks ago and have compleatley changed it lol. now im just looking for some more performance mods, not a fan of the body kits, but hey thats just me ireally wanna get my hands on some gt4 risers ha ha
1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
cardshark525
#8
I have the surewin header and have been pleased with it for now.

You asked about the OBX header... well so did I. I wasn't sure about the fitment of the one offered on E-bay so I went to a company to get it.... and they won't be getting it anytime soon. I paid for it... they never even let the payment go through because they knew they wouldn't have it.

As for my surewin... performance wise there really isn't that much of a difference but as someone said before you can definitely hear the car breathing better.
The hissing from my intake combined with the hiss from the header (especially on a chilly morning) perks me up and gets me ready for the day. lol.


Not much beats the sound of cold, dense air rushing through the system.... unless of course its compressed wink.gif haha
mgnt232
#9
I have a 94 ST with a 7A-FE and been looking for headers to fit. Every one I have found has eliminated the cat frown.gif and unfortunately i dont feel like putting the cat back on every year for inspections. Does any one know of a header for the 7A-FE that will not eliminate the cat? thanks
(i have a CAI, and a custom catback)

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QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Oct 18, 2009 - 6:54 PM) *
>i was thinking about buying some ebay headers for my celica, was just wondering if anyone had a set and how they sound, i already haave a short ram on but dont want it to sound ricey. or should i just bite the bullet and buy the $300 obx headers

I've spilt my heart into this car :) And I don't ever plan to stop- 6GC for Life ->Semper Fi<1994 Cupra :p 3sgte1995 Celica ST DD1969 Chevelle SSalllll balls. P2 approved!
johnnehh
#10
When I put the header on my car it didn't change the sound at all...
1996 Toyota Celica GT (GT4 conversion) -SOLD :(2002 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro -Daily Driver
Promasta
#11
a vid would be awesome guys
of a 5sfe with header but otherwise stock exhaust
cardshark525
#12
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QUOTE (Promasta @ Oct 21, 2009 - 10:38 AM) *
>a vid would be awesome guys
of a 5sfe with header but otherwise stock exhaust


I would love to but unfortunately I need to get my timing belt changed.... unless all you want to hear is the rattling from it when I rev it up...
96stgreendemon
#13
yea im just concerned about the differnce between the two, i really dont wanna buy cheap headers that screw my engine
1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
cardshark525
#14
As I said I don't think you can get the OBX headers. I asked about them maybe 5-6 months ago and they didn't even take my payment. Are you looking at getting them from a website or e-bay?
96stgreendemon
#15
been looking mostly on ebay but im open to anything. will the ebay ones align right? and does anything special have to be done to the o2 sensor?
1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
cardshark525
#16
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QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Oct 23, 2009 - 11:56 AM) *
>been looking mostly on ebay but im open to anything. will the ebay ones align right? and does anything special have to be done to the o2 sensor?


No the e-bay ones are a perfect fit. Your 2 sensors right now (O2 and heat) are fairly distant from one another.... the header will bring them closer together which you'll need to unplug both sensors to get done. Other than that its a direct fit job. You'll need to loosen your alternator a bit so you can get a wrench on the bolt there and you might need an extra hand to get the header attached to the flex pipe, but other than that its a one man job that shouldn't take more than 30 minutes. (mine took a lot longer because the O2 sensor hadn't moved since it was put on by the factory and was practically welded to the stock manifold).
nik
#17
most all the 7afe headers+mid pipes i see on ebay only have one O2 sensor hole and say that in the fine print

so you will have to have a bun welded in for your second O2 sensor


example

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Celi...sQ5fAccessories



4-2-1 (2 Piece Set)

Direct Bolt On (Professional Installation Recommended)

10-15 hp gain by increasing overall exhaust air flow

3 Stage Polish Finish to give an absolute perfect shine!
>>
>>(1) O2 Sensor Hole >>>>

Inlet / Outlet: 1.75"/1.9"

This post has been edited by nik: Oct 23, 2009 - 6:44 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
cardshark525
#18
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QUOTE (cardshark525 @ Oct 23, 2009 - 7:01 PM) *
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QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Oct 23, 2009 - 11:56 AM) *
>been looking mostly on ebay but im open to anything. will the ebay ones align right? and does anything special have to be done to the o2 sensor?


No the e-bay ones are a perfect fit. Your 2 sensors right now (O2 and heat) are fairly distant from one another.... the header will bring them closer together which you'll need to unplug both sensors to get done. Other than that its a direct fit job. You'll need to loosen your alternator a bit so you can get a wrench on the bolt there and you might need an extra hand to get the header attached to the flex pipe, but other than that its a one man job that shouldn't take more than 30 minutes. (mine took a lot longer because the O2 sensor hadn't moved since it was put on by the factory and was practically welded to the stock manifold).

I'm sorry... you can ignore this entire post....

I didn't realize you were running a 7a.

From what I've gotten you'll need to extend the pipe 4-6 inches as well as have a second hole drilled for your other sensor.


Sorry again for the confusion.
6G96GT
#19
I have the header from surewin and it's fine. It does sound good BUT I noticed a little loss in torque. It's kind of a big deal to me but I am expecting webcams soon to compensate for that and more.

Also, I think the OBX set may be 'tuned headers'??? Worth a look into.
benzo
#20
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QUOTE (nik @ Oct 23, 2009 - 6:42 PM) *
>most all the 7afe headers+mid pipes i see on ebay only have one O2 sensor hole and say that in the fine print

so you will have to have a bun welded in for your second O2 sensor


example

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-Celi...sQ5fAccessories



4-2-1 (2 Piece Set)

Direct Bolt On (Professional Installation Recommended)

10-15 hp gain by increasing overall exhaust air flow

3 Stage Polish Finish to give an absolute perfect shine!
>>
>>(1) O2 Sensor Hole >>>>

Inlet / Outlet: 1.75"/1.9"



so do they even have any headers for the 7a with 2 02 sensor holes that you are aware of?
6G96GT
#21
Even the surewin header for the 5sfe has a weird set up for the second 02. I was informed by Bitter that you can buy a spark plug fouler kit to offset the problem with the 2nd 02 sensor. I am looking into that myself actually.
nik
#22
im going to buy this header off ebay and install it on my winter car so ill post pics after it comes in and i install it
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
mgnt232
#23
which header? thanks alot, you should deff post some stuff on how it works out
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QUOTE (nik @ Oct 26, 2009 - 3:46 PM) *
>im going to buy this header off ebay and install it on my winter car so ill post pics after it comes in and i install it

I've spilt my heart into this car :) And I don't ever plan to stop- 6GC for Life ->Semper Fi<1994 Cupra :p 3sgte1995 Celica ST DD1969 Chevelle SSalllll balls. P2 approved!
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