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deathdoakill
#1
ok pepo this is the plann i just recently came into posession of a 2jz i bought off an aquaintance for $200 don t have a trani yet but engine starts and has been tested. ive been playing around with the idea of doing a 2jz swap but never really put much thought into it till nw. im going to do some homework on this but was wondering if any one had any ideas. 3sgte swap is going into the recent celica with the supra rear conversion but i have two others that hve just been sitting around (still running ) with 300,000 miles on them so instead of rebuilding engine like i was originaly gonna do this is the plann to swap my 2jz into one of these since there not being used right now so other than those that say it is not possible to do what are your thoughts on this as i will be doing this for relativley nothing since i have access to several shops that will do the work for free granted im there to do mst of it smile.gif>....
SinisterSinner
#2
sorry for going a little off topic, but I thought you didnt had time to finish the supra rear and now this?, but if its just an idea its ok, but man, I'm just sitting here checking every day to see your progress!, bnecause its coming out so nice that I preffer to watch the pictures of your car rather than tv lol, because its coming out a lot better than I thought!its just amazing what youre doing, btw I just noticed that we have the same car lol, 94 st hatcbacks!, but I want to sell it to buy a GT4 I die for one, or if only I could swap the engine..do you think its possible?st with GT4 engine?
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deathdoakill
#3
of course ive done a swap on an st but its a bit more work than on a gt im gonna swap 3s into my st and later im thinking of swaping 2jz into my gt. if all goes well my st gets 2jz swap in a year that be koo i get engines pretty cheap so im pretty lucky an thanks for the compliments much apreciated ill be posting some picts of the front end im doing as well as maybe some new rear picts if i get any where decent

This post has been edited by deathdoakill: Dec 1, 2009 - 4:05 AM
SwissFerdi
#4
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QUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 1, 2009 - 3:39 AM) *
>btw I just noticed that we have the same car lol, 94 st hatcbacks!, but I want to sell it to buy a GT4 I die for one, or if only I could swap the engine..do you think its possible?st with GT4 engine?


So why don't you put your car up in your profile? And a 3S-GTE swap is absolutely the most commonly done swap here, just search for it and you'll get days upon days of threads and reading materials.

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QUOTE (deathdoakill @ Dec 1, 2009 - 3:58 AM) *
>of course ive done a swap on an st but its a bit more work than on a gt im gonna swap 3s into my st and later im thinking of swaping 2jz into my gt. if all goes well my st gets 2jz swap in a year that be koo i get engines pretty cheap so im pretty lucky an thanks for the compliments much apreciated ill be posting some picts of the front end im doing as well as maybe some new rear picts if i get any where decent


Why not put the 3S-GTE into the GT since you have the correct tranny and motor mounts already, and swap the 2JZ into the ST (the one with the Supra tails)? So Supra tails and Supra engine, only makes sense. smile.gif I figure you have to swap the tranny on the ST anyway, along with the mounts and probably a bunch of other modifications.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Dec 1, 2009 - 12:18 PM
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SlvrCelica09
#5
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Dec 1, 2009 - 12:17 PM) *
>Why not put the 3S-GTE into the GT since you have the correct tranny and motor mounts already, and swap the 2JZ into the ST (the one with the Supra tails)? So Supra tails and Supra engine, only makes sense. smile.gif I figure you have to swap the tranny on the ST anyway, along with the mounts and probably a bunch of other modifications.


Its his build, im glad hes being different.. this could give people with ST models more information on doing the 3sgte.. Jeff's thread is the only detailed swap for an ST.. would love to see another one.. Good luck on the swaps man, especially the 2JZ because its written here that the 2JZ swap is not feasible.. maybe you can prove otherwise.. wink.gif

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Dec 1, 2009 - 1:51 PM
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deathdoakill
#6
yeah 3sgte is common and is going into my st. Im pretty positive i can do the 2jz swap but it will be a learning expeience which means possibly months of down time my st which is becoming one of my favorite cars i cant really do without at this point in time 3s is more feasable because ive done this before an should only take a couple days to maybe a week to get done at most assuming i dont have problems during install.

This post has been edited by deathdoakill: Dec 1, 2009 - 2:39 PM
deathdoakill
#7
right now this is the plann Im getting my cougar up an running an putting another engine thrown into it i found for three hundred (200,000 miles) still running i know a little off topic but this is my cougar for those who asked me to post a pic





me and my brothers smile.gif

Mstoochn
#8
sir i say goodluck to you when it comes to custom fab smile.gif
and im sure you will have loads of fun with the RWD linkage, i would talk to Hardtarget
SwissFerdi
#9
Oh, I forgot...so will this be a RWD conversion as well? That would be a definite dream of mine.
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Mstoochn
#11
Do you have ABS? your pretty much going to need to gut the engine bay for this all to fit tongue.gif the 2jz is a fair bit bigger than the 3vz-fe
lagos
#12
Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!

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richee3
#13
Man, I know the 2JZ is a virtually impossible swap into a Celica, but I know it's possible. All I'm saying is if you start, don't stop. Finish the swap. I wish you the very best of luck, and I hope you decide to drive it to Illinois after you get done.
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95st-celica
#14
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!



HAHA thats great...nice one

listen here young lad, and take everything i am going to say into consideration. If you can put a full supra body kit on a celica, mold it, and make it look legit, then by all means do it.

If you think your going to throw a 2jz into a FWD car, its not going to happen. its next to impossiable with our chasis, and making ANYTHING for the car would have to be custom fabricated. you would be better off building a whole custom frame for the car, then taking the body of celica and putting it onto it, even then the fire wall will have to be cut and fabbed in order to fit that huge tranny under there.

if you are smart enough to think that you can do this, then you sir, are smart enough to click the search button. This topic has been covered many many times in the past. There is lots of good information in a lot of those threads

i will get you started:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=Search
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lagos
#15
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QUOTE (95st-celica @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:20 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!



HAHA thats great...nice one

listen here young lad, and take everything i am going to say into consideration. If you can put a full supra body kit on a celica, mold it, and make it look legit, then by all means do it.

If you think your going to throw a 2jz into a FWD car, its not going to happen. its next to impossiable with our chasis, and making ANYTHING for the car would have to be custom fabricated. you would be better off building a whole custom frame for the car, then taking the body of celica and putting it onto it, even then the fire wall will have to be cut and fabbed in order to fit that huge tranny under there.

if you are smart enough to think that you can do this, then you sir, are smart enough to click the search button. This topic has been covered many many times in the past. There is lots of good information in a lot of those threads

i will get you started:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=Search



^ Im with this guy! ^
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Smaay
#16
I love it when these threads pop up. I love it even more on NC.org that engine bay is even smaller than the 6th gens. Tell you what, ill give you 400 for that 2JZ and you can double your money smile.gif
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
SwissFerdi
#17
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!


...why discourage him? Let him find out on his own if it doesn't work, obviously he has some idea in his head.
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
lagos
#18
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:34 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!


...why discourage him? Let him find out on his own if it doesn't work, obviously he has some idea in his head.


Hes a young kid, he has a dream, not an idea. If he had an idea he would know why this wouldn't work.
These threads pop up every single year by someone with a pipe dream that clams they can get this done because they get "discounts" or have a friend who has a friend who owns a shop. Yet nothing ever comes out of it.

Is it "possible"? In theory, yes. Just like the jet engine powered celicas (monster garage did one), but is this within the budget and skill set of a young kid with underglow neons and a supra rear bumper? no.

Excuse me now while I go put in a Peter Built truck motor into my Celica.

This post has been edited by lagos: Dec 1, 2009 - 8:49 PM
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garin
#19
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:46 PM) *
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:34 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!


...why discourage him? Let him find out on his own if it doesn't work, obviously he has some idea in his head.


Hes a young kid, he has a dream, not an idea. If he had an idea he would know why this wouldn't work.
These threads pop up every single year by someone with a pipe dream that clams they can get this done because they get "discounts" or have a friend who has a friend who owns a shop. Yet nothing ever comes out of it.

Is it "possible"? In theory, yes. Just like the jet engine powered celicas (monster garage did one), but is this within the budget and skill set of a young kid with underglow neons and a supra rear bumper? no.

Excuse me now while I go put in a Peter Built truck motor into my Celica.

how many lbs of boost will you be running art? haha laugh.gif
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lagos
#20
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QUOTE (garin @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:53 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:46 PM) *
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:34 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!


...why discourage him? Let him find out on his own if it doesn't work, obviously he has some idea in his head.


Hes a young kid, he has a dream, not an idea. If he had an idea he would know why this wouldn't work.
These threads pop up every single year by someone with a pipe dream that clams they can get this done because they get "discounts" or have a friend who has a friend who owns a shop. Yet nothing ever comes out of it.

Is it "possible"? In theory, yes. Just like the jet engine powered celicas (monster garage did one), but is this within the budget and skill set of a young kid with underglow neons and a supra rear bumper? no.

Excuse me now while I go put in a Peter Built truck motor into my Celica.

how many lbs of boost will you be running art? haha laugh.gif



Stock boost... only 65psi.
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garin
#21
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:55 PM) *
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QUOTE (garin @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:53 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:46 PM) *
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Dec 1, 2009 - 8:34 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!


...why discourage him? Let him find out on his own if it doesn't work, obviously he has some idea in his head.


Hes a young kid, he has a dream, not an idea. If he had an idea he would know why this wouldn't work.
These threads pop up every single year by someone with a pipe dream that clams they can get this done because they get "discounts" or have a friend who has a friend who owns a shop. Yet nothing ever comes out of it.

Is it "possible"? In theory, yes. Just like the jet engine powered celicas (monster garage did one), but is this within the budget and skill set of a young kid with underglow neons and a supra rear bumper? no.

Excuse me now while I go put in a Peter Built truck motor into my Celica.

how many lbs of boost will you be running art? haha laugh.gif



Stock boost... only 65psi.

TURBO DESIEL!
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jbspeed
#22
Everyone will say it's impossible. It can't be done. Maybe it can't. Maybe it can. I'm about to test fit a 1JZ into a Celica GT just to see how much room it takes up. Sure, the idea of fitting a longitudinally mounted straight-6 RWD into a car that takes a transverse mounted 4-cylinder FWD is ridiculous, but it's worth a shot. But really, dude, try it. And if you decide to write more about, please, i'm begging you please, learn how to write. I could only read half of anything you wrote because it was so mind-numbingly painful. Use some punctuation, maybe some capital letters occasionally. You're about to attempt the "impossible," punctuation is easy. And I'll let you know how much room the 1JZ takes up.

This post has been edited by jbspeed: Dec 2, 2009 - 11:51 AM
team_omega
#23
This swap is not impossible....any swap is possible...all it takes is just MONEY!!! Im talking about ALOT, ALOT of money, and if you dont have that, then dont consider the swap being done and running right.
95st-celica
#25
why waste 20k into trying to fit a 2jz into a celica when you can go out and just buy a supra? seems pointless.

yea motor cost you 300

but if its done correctly, it will cost you close to 20k

imo i would rather own a supra
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presure2
#26
It'll fit. .....once you cut the radiator support and bumper support and move them forward a handfull of inches....ohh and the firewall moved back a few as well.
By then, it won't look much like a celica anyway.
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playr158
#27
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:40 PM) *
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QUOTE (95st-celica @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:20 PM) *
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2009 - 5:05 PM) *
>Ah to be 16 again!
It's a magical time in a young boys life where anything is possible!



HAHA thats great...nice one

listen here young lad, and take everything i am going to say into consideration. If you can put a full supra body kit on a celica, mold it, and make it look legit, then by all means do it.

If you think your going to throw a 2jz into a FWD car, its not going to happen. its next to impossiable with our chasis, and making ANYTHING for the car would have to be custom fabricated. you would be better off building a whole custom frame for the car, then taking the body of celica and putting it onto it, even then the fire wall will have to be cut and fabbed in order to fit that huge tranny under there.

if you are smart enough to think that you can do this, then you sir, are smart enough to click the search button. This topic has been covered many many times in the past. There is lots of good information in a lot of those threads

i will get you started:

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=Search



^ Im with this guy! ^


THIS

I'm also going to add, Hardtarget DID NOT have a celica front end....it was tubed

This post has been edited by playr158: Dec 2, 2009 - 6:20 PM
deathdoakill
#28
Ive got a guy who does tube chasis/sub-framming and keeps trying to convince me to put a 350 into it but thats to common an engine with not enough power ....... ok now wtf is this kid crap im no kid im 28 and ive been building and fabricating for cars since i was 14. Like I said before this is not being posted to have pepo say its not possible and to tear down what im planning on doing. This is strictly for any information anyone might have available on this subject. Most posts ive seen were not helpful and ive grown tired of reading long posts that go nowhere. so if anyone has any information they think might be relevant let me guys thanks for the help

This post has been edited by deathdoakill: Dec 2, 2009 - 9:32 PM
SlvrCelica09
#29
well 99% of the regulars that post frequently on 6gc love to rip ppl for trying things new or being different.. They delight in trying to bash others.. maybe because their own life sucks so they want to make others feel their pain.

Good luck with everything man.. gonna be a challenge thats for sure
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lagos
#30
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QUOTE (deathdoakill @ Dec 2, 2009 - 9:30 PM) *
>Ive got a guy who does tube chasis/sub-framming and keeps trying to convince me to put a 350 into it but thats to common an engine with not enough power ....... ok now wtf is this kid crap im no kid im 28 and ive been building and fabricating for cars since i was 14. Like I said before this is not being posted to have pepo say its not possible and to tear down what im planning on doing. This is strictly for any information anyone might have available on this subject. Most posts ive seen were not helpful and ive grown tired of reading long posts that go nowhere. so if anyone has any information they think might be relevant let me guys thanks for the help



You're 28? Bro you look like you're 18 in that pic! hahaha
The secret to doing anything like this is money. How much do you have?
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