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...so this morning I went to pick up the car and SURPRISE...it's a '91 MR2 with a 3rd generation 3S-GTE from a JDM MR2. biggrin.gif I was like, "Hmmm...even better than I thought. I start the car and it was running funny, so I check the compression and the #2 cylinder was 70, while the others were 190. I told the lady I wasn't gonna buy it unless she gave me her brand new CP pistons. She refused but my tuner, who's her cousin, convinced her...and I also ended up getting everything for $200 less. tongue.gif

She also refused that because she needs the money bad. The story is that this car is child support payment from her ex-husband. After she duivorced him, he was mad so he got in the car with his 4 year old daughter, and got all crazy drifting it on the street where he lives and wrecked it against the fence of a house and a palm tree. Good thing his daughter didn't suffer a scratch. What a dirtbag. rolleyes.gif

He owes her ex-wife over $7,000 in child support. He's in the Army Reserve, so she could pretty much end his life as he knows it, but she took it easy on him and settled out of court. She took the car with many brand new aftermarket parts (forged pistons, rods, ARP studs, forged rods, clutch, turbo header, etc.) as a payment.

Anyway, these are the holidays, and pretty much everyone around here is broke. Nobody is going to have thousands to shell out for an engine, except me that I have my priorities set, lol. rolleyes.gif So she let it go for $200. Good for her.

Price? Well, higher than you guys pay in the US. laugh.gif We get to pay way more down here, lol. But who cares? I have the almighty 3S-GTE....and I got it without even knowing it. Life is good. So I got the engine, the turbo tranny, the CP pistons and the Microtech EMS. I need to source many parts to make everything work, but my tuner likes a challenge. He wants to trade me his 2nd gen 3S-GTE but hell naw...this is for me. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by OOBE: Jan 2, 2010 - 4:55 PM

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
Well, I like to write detailed. If you don't want to read, skip the thread. tongue.gif


Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
too much info how? a great deal like this screams for context.

awesome luck man, im sure this made your day









My poor baby is all super moldy inside. frown.gif



Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
good job man! looking forward to this thread...post up some pics of the goods

I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard1988 Dodge Aries K (sold)1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress
Can anyone tell me how to open the MR2's engine bay door? Where is the latch thingy? I can open the trunk, but not the engine bay. I'm stupid. laugh.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
should be the same as the celica? bottom left hand side like the hatch and gas door lever? if not its under the dash...if not there check the center consul, or the glove box for a push button

I"M NOT A TOYOTA FAN, IM A FANATIC1984 accord hatch 5 speed (T-Belt)-Junkyard1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard1988 Dodge Aries K (sold)1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale1995 Toyota Celica-Work in Progress
Are you sure you have a GEN3 3sgte, as the ECU says otherwise? Its possible I suppose that it has the wrong ECU plugged in? Post pics of the engine bay and I will tell what Generation 3sgte it is.

330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI
That's the stock 2nd gen 3S-GTE ECU. The engine didn't come with an ECU. tongue.gif

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QUOTE (95st-celica @ Jan 2, 2010 - 4:51 PM) *
>should be the same as the celica? bottom left hand side like the hatch and gas door lever? if not its under the dash...if not there check the center consul, or the glove box for a push button


Gonna check now. tongue.gif I opened my tuner's MR2 engine bay the other day, but I don't remember how.

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
OK, can't find how to open the engine bay. Googling now. laugh.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
OK. found it. It was behind the driver seat, lol. Here are the pictures. I'm gonna have fun with this engine. Look at the mud in the radiator fill. laugh.gif The previous owner sure didn't take care of this poor baby. frown.gif





I'm going to be selling the stock turbo and intercooler. Also, I will be selling the intake and exhaust manifolds. We're going to build custom ones. I'll use the 3" throttle body from my 7A-FE. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by OOBE: Jan 2, 2010 - 7:00 PM

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
I'm slightly disappointed because I thought you were going to be innovative once again...but otherwise, good stuff man! Can't wait to see the build.

Why's your 6GC so moldy though? That's disgusting.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 2, 2010 - 8:31 PM

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
be sure to take some pics of that cutom inatke for us, i always love to see cool custom stuff like that
I live right at the bottom of the rain forest, so it's always rainy and humid. frown.gif No matter what, my car will get moldy. I've tried everything to get rid of it but the mold won't die. Only way to prevent mold is to daily drive the car, but it's not running, so when it sits, it molds, lol.

Sure, I'll post pics of the manifolds when we start building them. biggrin.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
great find for cheap

http://www.st-autosport.com1994 JDM Celica GT-4 WRC Group-A1991 MR2 3S-GE Hardtop
your steering wheel is F'in NASTY!!!!!!!! laugh.gif

I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island
I meant that she let it go for $200 LESS than what she was asking. My bad. I sucj at the English. tongue.gif I paid over two grand for all this, lol.

808, I know, lol. I have never seen it that moldy and gross. Screw it. I don't want to even touch it. I'm getting a cheapy eBay aftermarket one. laugh.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
good deal, man, what are the plans for this beast??

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
Nice pick up! Now if you could just park it so everyone only sees the passenger side.. tongue.gif


But seriously, if you're parting the mr2 I need some interior things...

1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of moneyI'm not really an asshole, but I play one on the internet.**** Photobucket
I can't part it. I already told the lady I only needed the tranny, axles, EMS and engine. I spend last night looking around for what I needed for the swap, since this hasn't been done inthe island yet on a Celica. So far I got from Manny that I would need:

Axles:
Inner shaft = '91 MR2 Turbo (have them already with the tranny)
Outer shaft = '91 Camry V6

Mounts:
ST205 mounts and brackets (front, rear, and driver side)

Shifter cables:
ST205 cables

Speed sensor:
'93+ E153 electronic sensor

Tranny shifter selector arm/lever/related BS:
ST205


If I missed anything, point me. I'm 100% this is everything I need swap wise. I still need the brake and clutch pedals since my car is an automatic.

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
if you have to store your car for awhile you can make your own dehumidifer using a few plastic containers and calcium chloride but put it somewhere it wont spill and take it out before you drive the car
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Jan 3, 2010 - 6:09 AM) *
>good deal, man, what are the plans for this beast??


Thanks, man. I'll finally be cool like you guys. tongue.gif

My plans are to make a minimum of 400 WHP and eventually when I learn, be able to touch 11s this year, even if it's 11.9, just so I'm not the wimp of our group, lol. My tuner has 600 WHP in his MR2 and his brother's MR2 will be pushing around a bit less when he finishes his build. The turbo I have already gave my friend a bit over 400 WHP in his 2ZZ-GE. Can't remember the exact number. If in my application I have to push it too much to get there, I won't. I will then get an expensive-ass Precision Turbo 6262 (billet goodness, baby) so I can get that number with less boost. My friend has a 6265 and the thing just gives you over 500 WHP without boosting it too much. I like that idea. smile.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
tranny shifter selector / and related parts can be obtained from a Camry V6 manual, Lexus ES300 Manual and Solara V6 manual

I have a set of shifter cables if you are interested and the mounts you can use Celica GT mounts except for the rear, the rear HAS to be ST205 to work with the e153. I also have the rear mount and bracket.

PM me if interested on ST205 cables and rear mount.

the rest of the stuff you should be able to find over there to save some money.


you could use ST185 outers instead of camry

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Jan 5, 2010 - 2:59 PM) *
>you could use ST185 outers instead of camry



He'll have better luck finding Camry parts in Pto Rico than ST185

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Jan 5, 2010 - 2:11 PM
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QUOTE (OOBE @ Jan 3, 2010 - 12:26 PM) *
>I can't part it. I already told the lady I only needed the tranny, axles, EMS and engine. I spend last night looking around for what I needed for the swap, since this hasn't been done inthe island yet on a Celica. So far I got from Manny that I would need:

Axles:
Inner shaft = '91 MR2 Turbo (have them already with the tranny)
Outer shaft = '91 Camry V6

Mounts:
ST205 mounts and brackets (front, rear, and driver side)

Shifter cables:
ST205 cables

Speed sensor:
'93+ E153 electronic sensor

Tranny shifter selector arm/lever/related BS:
ST205


If I missed anything, point me. I'm 100% this is everything I need swap wise. I still need the brake and clutch pedals since my car is an automatic.


Maybe you should ask the lady if she would like it parted out. Since it's supposed to be a child support payment, I'm sure she'd appreciate the help with using what will become a giant crumpled paperweight to generate some income from it. That is, if you're willing to help her out of course. But clearly she needs the money, it would definitely be a very nice thing and good deed to help her out!
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jan 5, 2010 - 1:54 PM) *
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QUOTE (OOBE @ Jan 3, 2010 - 12:26 PM) *
>I can't part it. I already told the lady I only needed the tranny, axles, EMS and engine. I spend last night looking around for what I needed for the swap, since this hasn't been done inthe island yet on a Celica. So far I got from Manny that I would need:

Axles:
Inner shaft = '91 MR2 Turbo (have them already with the tranny)
Outer shaft = '91 Camry V6

Mounts:
ST205 mounts and brackets (front, rear, and driver side)

Shifter cables:
ST205 cables

Speed sensor:
'93+ E153 electronic sensor

Tranny shifter selector arm/lever/related BS:
ST205


If I missed anything, point me. I'm 100% this is everything I need swap wise. I still need the brake and clutch pedals since my car is an automatic.


Maybe you should ask the lady if she would like it parted out. Since it's supposed to be a child support payment, I'm sure she'd appreciate the help with using what will become a giant crumpled paperweight to generate some income from it. That is, if you're willing to help her out of course. But clearly she needs the money, it would definitely be a very nice thing and good deed to help her out!


Well, it would be a good deed but the problem is I don't even have time to do my things. I just don't have the time to part out a car. She can do it. She's young and has time. She doesn't work. She has all the time in the world, and so is her undisciplined ex-husband. :

Culpable, thanks a bunch, man. Will PM you right now. You're saving me a bunch of money and time by selling me those parts. biggrin.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
A sweet and sour day for me yesterday. The 7A-FE is out of the car. frown.gif




We pulled the 3S-GTE out of the MR2 on Tuesday. What a pain in the ass. Ugh. I officially hate them. laugh.gif

The engine will be refreshed this week, CP forged pistons installed and the custom intake and exhaust manifolds will be made. I started college so I won't be doing any grease monkeying. My mechanic will do everything. That's the update so far. I still need to buy the HKS cam gears (pretty) and the Brian Crower spring and retainer set. The cams will be installed after the engine is dynoed so we can see how much was gained. That's it for now. smile.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
woooooooooooooohoooooooooooooo!!!!!! put the 7afte in a go-cart thumbsup.gif

I don't normally drive fast, but when I do its on a curvy section of this island