Euphoria

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QUOTE (nsxtypeR @ May 9, 2011 - 6:47 AM)

>3rd gen 3s-gte.

While cruising normal, average of 10 liter per 100 km
Normal cruising, with traffic-light sprints 12,5 liter per 100km
Fast cruising 20 liter per 100km
Averages of city and highway together


These are factory specs:
At 90 km/h: 7.5 liter/100 km
At 120 km/: 9.4 liter/100 km
City: 11.6 liter/100 km

I guess I have to change my driving style

10 litres per 100km is great for normal driving! I wouldn't be able to help boosting it EVERYWHERE so its probably lucky I have a godawful 5SFE lol.

rave2n

#32

Same, from E, mine only takes 13.5....I never take it below a quarter expect for large trips like that.

Anyone confirm..?

This post has been edited by rave2n: May 10, 2011 - 10:56 PM

monky322

#33

Hi, Guys! Well I just calculated my MPG and I am doing city driving 22.7 MPG. Not so good comparing with most of you, pals!
I just got a new Oxigen sensor=denso by the way, i noticed better MPG but i should be around 26 or 27 MPG. So what i should do to my car to get a better MPG. My spark plugs are new, cables are about 40000 miles old(NKG), new air filter, 30000 miles ago I changed dist cap and rotor. Also my EGR valve is not working properly, i got an engine code=insufficient flow. Do you think that if i clean it, I can get better MPG. Any other suggestion would be appreciated! My celica has already 170000 miles and leaking some oil.

trebilihp

#34

Best i ever had with my 94 st is 6.6 l/100km on highway with a lightly damaged piston ring (185psi comp beside 210 for the others). So i guess those numbers are good and/or my 6gen is still in good shape afther all. I think she usually drinks 7.7l/100km for summer all around performances.

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b22ri22an

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 9, 2011 - 4:40 AM)

>do not drive your car till its gets to e or until the gas light shows up. It's recommended by the manufacture of all car companies to keep your gas tank filled above the quarter line. This way your fuel pump is always being cooled by the fuel inside the gas tank!!! or else your fuel pump will eventually seize over time...

i deliver pizza... i live on e. guess i'll save some cash for when i eventually kill the fuel pump

jimboggs

#36

I always take mine down to E and always calculate my mileage when I fill up. All stock 94 St with 240k miles. I have never needed a fuel pump and ain't worried about it at all. Honestly, how many electric motors do you folks know of that have seized because of not being submerged in a liquid? I'm thinking like ZERO!

I do wish I could get over 30 mpg. 40+ sounds ludicrous.

This post has been edited by jimboggs: Jun 9, 2011 - 10:33 AM

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HaysoosKreesto

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QUOTE (bsamps4 @ Feb 28, 2011 - 7:09 PM)

>Wow I'm pissed. My 94 5s only gets about 24-25 average. I've replaced filter, plugs, plug wires, coil, and distributor rotor......FAIL.

We on the same boat lol, except my tune up is to come. I get about 25~ mpg, which ain't bad but I want that 30 **** everyone else is hitting.

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 9, 2011 - 4:40 AM)

>do not drive your car till its gets to e or until the gas light shows up. It's recommended by the manufacture of all car companies to keep your gas tank filled above the quarter line. This way your fuel pump is always being cooled by the fuel inside the gas tank!!! or else your fuel pump will eventually seize over time...

Good to know, thanks for informing me .

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ricochet1490

#38

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QUOTE (pflau @ Feb 21, 2011 - 2:44 AM)

>37mpg highway.. gosh that is such total and utter bullcrap.

I got a 98 manual and the best I ever got was about 30mpg highway driving down in Florida and I was driving highway for hours at a time.

I usually get about 26-29 mpg 75% highway 25% city.

37mpg is total bullcrap. No way.

I totally agree. my 94 gt gets babied by me. 75% highway, 25% city i'm lucky to get 29-30mpg. I got 37 one time on a trip to Long Island through the mountains. I was following my step dads truck with a big trailer full of steel on it to do a job. 37.6 mpg due to DRAFTING. So I guess we shouldn't drive fast and we should always follow semi-trucks.

HOWEVER, if you look at my profile you'll see my recent deer accident, post accident (new plugs, wires and distributor) i got 32 pretty easily..... for two weeks
I think I had my timing a little advanced and after the computer "fixed" that by retarding the timing, i'm back to 28.75 mpg. See here for the confirmation
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/timing.htm

BonzaiCelica

#39

alright well I got a solid figure for beams redtop

>>>>I got 340 miles from a full tank driving streets only!!>>>> all the way till the gas light turned on. When the Gas light turns on it means you have two gallons left right???

So 340 miles (street miles) divided by 14 gallons = 24.5 miles per gallon when shifting between 2,500 rpm and 3,000 rpm. I always keep my speed at 45-50mph max while on the streets.

i'd say thats not too bad...

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Keiri

#40

Just an updated on my situation; I'm getting between 300 and 375 miles on a 12.5 gal fill-up - the lower number the more I drive in the city and the higher number the more I drive on the highway. I'm averaging between 27 and 34MPG usually.

Only recent work has been new intake, new battery, header, and bottom o2 sensor replacement.

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blackthunder

#41

Just chiming in...

Here in Okinawa where there is no real freeway longer than 80km(ish) I do mostly city driving. Couple that with a heavy foot at times and my MPG isn't so hot. For a 98 BEAMS with an auto tranny and just an intake, over the last 8 months, I averaged 21.6 MPG!

This post has been edited by blackthunder: Nov 8, 2011 - 11:02 PM

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azian_advanced

#42

i know i'm reviving an old thread but here is something i found on the U.S. Dept of Energy website.



Source: Transportation Energy Data Book

This post has been edited by azian_advanced: May 4, 2012 - 6:17 PM

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richee3

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QUOTE (blackthunder @ Nov 8, 2011 - 11:01 PM)

>Just chiming in...

Here in Okinawa where there is no real freeway longer than 80km(ish) I do mostly city driving. Couple that with a heavy foot at times and my MPG isn't so hot. For a 98 BEAMS with an auto tranny and just an intake, over the last 8 months, I averaged 21.6 MPG!

Ouch. I get a decent mixture of city and highway miles and with mine running pig rich, I still get 33-34 mpg.

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ricochet1490

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QUOTE (azian_advanced @ May 4, 2012 - 7:17 PM)

>i know i'm reviving an old thread but here is something i found on the U.S. Dept of Energy website.



Source: Transportation Energy Data Book

I like this alot because it helps show how the aerodynamics of the car change with velocity

Box

#45

So, drive 25 mph all the the time.

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ricochet1490

#46

60i believe is their approved number on the graph lol

but 25 also a nice figure lol

This post has been edited by ricochet1490: May 4, 2012 - 11:54 PM

Box

#47

Good to know, guess in all of those 55 mph areas I'll have to speed a little. *cough* I'M SAVING OUR PLANET, GAH.

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ricochet1490

#48

by the way.... that HAS to be an st model.

The aerodynamics would be the same, so that's also the best fuel economy for a gt..... but there is not a gt on the planet that gets :cough: 48mpg! at 60mph..... I don't even this ST's get that kind fuel economy....

CAcelica29

#49

i average 31-32 with a manual 7afe.....44 isnt gonna happen. i drive fairly modestly for a california driver....

Box

#50

28/34 is the original rating. I guess if you were to pulse and glide, and coast whenever possible those kind of numbers would be possible.

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spy00005

#51

well i've been keeping track of my mpg in my phone with an app called acar (i highly recomend if you have android) and it seems my mpg average is 20.5mpg highest mpg 24 lowest 18 so everyone getting 29+ lucky you. i really don't mind tho i love my car and the way it feels and drives.

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Special_Edy

#52

These cars really should have had a sixth gear. Could you imagine being at 2500 rpm @ 60 mph

Box

#53

More gears! Guess that's why the 7GC GT-S get as good mpg as it does, even with 180 hp.

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SwissFerdi

#54

^ And there's a 7th gen tranny which fits the 7A, called the C60...six gears.

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Box

#55

Wonder how much that'd help.

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ricochet1490

#56

likely not much. The energy needs of the car to push through the air at any given velocity are the same no matter what transmission you have.... I'm sure there is some to be gained, but does the 7a have enough torque to run a 6th gear that is presumably higher?

Special_Edy

#57

The internal drag of the engine and transmission would be reduced with a sixth gear. This is why you arent cruizing around in third or fourth.
The engine is creating alot more friction and heat with its internals spinning faster.

ricochet1490

#58

heat yes, friction neglibile. The bearings on the crank etc aren't going to have increased drag? but there will be less resistive force put on the engine from less backpressure etc....

But again, no sense in a 6th gear if the motor can't handle it.... need MOAR POWAR and torque for extra gearing...

Special_Edy

#59

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QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ May 6, 2012 - 1:19 PM)

>heat yes, friction neglibile. The bearings on the crank etc aren't going to have increased drag? but there will be less resistive force put on the engine from less backpressure etc....

But again, no sense in a 6th gear if the motor can't handle it.... need MOAR POWAR and torque for extra gearing...

Windage, oil pump, driven accessories, like I said you dont drive in 4th because its too much work for the engine. My 5SFE could handle another gear, Im in 5th at 30mph

BonzaiCelica

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 6, 2012 - 2:09 AM)

>^ And there's a 7th gen tranny which fits the 7A, called the C60...six gears.

7afe is an A series engine
2zzge is a ZZ series engine.

THe c60 transmission will be a direct fit onto the 7a engine. You'll need the Toyota Levin BZ-R 6 speed transmission, which is a C160 transmission that comes stock with a helical lsd.

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