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Topic #73748 39 posts Started by terbear4god4life
terbear4god4life
#1
i recently have picked up a full zex dry nitrous kit with all the goodies im starting the install today but over the time i will keep this updated here and will be taking pics biggrin.gif


my 5s has 240,000 miles but still runs absolutely perfect i have no idea of past events or anything internal done to the block other than it has a new timing belt so i like to think the previous owner had replaced the head-gasket too.

i know a bunch of you think this is a bad idea but i don't have the resources or time or money too rebuild or too swap or boost like a lot of individuals on here.
so this thread is for the truth behind our cars on nitrous rolleyes.gif




will keep this updated biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 8, 2010 - 10:46 AM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
kormysh8
#2
hellz ya. good luck man, i'm interested in the results thumbsup.gif
Espo
#3
If your engine goes, might as well go for a 3s - I hear those handle chemical induction on occasion with no problem.
conus00
#4
How many shots are you plan on running?
At minimum I'd recommend to upgrade your fuel pump.
I'm also not sure how kindly will stock tranny and clutch take all that extra torque...
'94 ST
terbear4god4life
#5
right now all i have is a 75 shot that im keeping for the track and im getting a 35 shot for the street

as for the tranny i plan on granny shifting haha and my clutch is a exedy stage 1 so it should handle the power..the kid i got it from ran it threw his 93 celica st at a 75 shot and said it went perfectly fine so im not all that worried im not one too overuse anything wink.gif

was busy much today so the official start day is tomorrow lol

and also, im going to record my first use of it so if it blows ill have an epic video tongue.gif

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 9, 2010 - 1:33 AM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
richee3
#6
Great! I'd love to see if this is fact or fiction that your motor will blow at the first shot of nitrous. Personally, I believe you'll be fine, especially with a 35 shot. Best of luck to you. Looking forward to that video of your Celica hitting light speed when you hit WOT.
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terbear4god4life
#7
would i be allowed to post a video of it on here?? as long as it isn't street racing right?
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
presure2
#8
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QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ May 9, 2010 - 12:15 PM) *
>would i be allowed to post a video of it on here?? as long as it isn't street racing right?

yup, post all the videos you want, as long as your not street racing, or being totally stupid, your fine.
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terbear4god4life
#9
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QUOTE (presure2 @ May 10, 2010 - 7:12 AM) *
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QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ May 9, 2010 - 12:15 PM) *
>would i be allowed to post a video of it on here?? as long as it isn't street racing right?

yup, post all the videos you want, as long as your not street racing, or being totally stupid, your fine.



alright cool thanks

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 9, 2010 - 1:19 PM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
terbear4god4life
#10
NEW PICS!

"i know i need a blowdown tube"


only one for now because it rained on me blehhhhh but soon more too come!
i have the tank fully mounted and had the nasty bare metal around it so i took the trunk carpet and brought it forward.







but for kicks here's a updated interior shot


This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 9, 2010 - 8:11 PM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
samir0189
#11
cant wait to see this man. Im glad you are taking the opportunity to do the things people say you shouldn't. Go ahead and prove them wrong....

If only someone would do the same with the 2jz in a 6gc. lol. tongue.gif that would be the day......................


btw im not being sarcastic, hope it doesnt come off that way... , i really want to see you beat the odds.
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terbear4god4life
#12
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QUOTE (samir0189 @ May 10, 2010 - 4:24 PM) *
>cant wait to see this man. Im glad you are taking the opportunity to do the things people say you shouldn't. Go ahead and prove them wrong....

If only someone would do the same with the 2jz in a 6gc. lol. tongue.gif that would be the day......................


btw im not being sarcastic, hope it doesnt come off that way... , i really want to see you beat the odds.



lol agreed! the bottle would be a nice smack on the head wink.gif

i don't suggest anyone mounting one were i did..i barely missed the gas tank putting the mounts in..

but i do have too admit if someone tried too set my car on fire they would get a nasty surprise biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 9, 2010 - 9:25 PM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
EKAn
#13
cant wait for vids! woot.gif
QUOTEwhat hes saying is if you put blue lights in you car youll lose hp.
terbear4god4life
#14
also my pointless keychain thing came haha.


let me tell you this thing is awesome.
real carbon fiber layers and everything for about 6 bucks.






so worth it.
rolleyes.gif
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
terbear4god4life
#15
no updates for today still raining and sh*t but tomorrows a new day!
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
terbear4god4life
#16
another crap day

thanks global warming! mad.gif
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
dans_st
#17
first off....

WHERE'D YOU GET THAT KEYCHAIN???????

secondly....
I had nitrous before on my celica, 50 shot, rans strong all day, 75 shot, before bottle was empty i had spun a rod bearing frown.gif

BUT, I think it was my own fault, I didn't know enough about nitrous back then, and hope you can learn from my mistakes.

1st
wet it better(adds in its own fuel and is safer)

2nd
MAKE SURE TO RETARD TIMING!!!!!
if I were you I would buy a mallory 6A that has window switch and timing retard, AS WELL AS MORE SPARK(about $200)

3rd
go get you a set of 1 step colder NGK plugs like BKR7ES-1 should work fine for your 5S

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terbear4god4life
#18
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QUOTE (dans_st @ May 17, 2010 - 5:55 PM) *
>first off....

WHERE'D YOU GET THAT KEYCHAIN???????

secondly....
I had nitrous before on my celica, 50 shot, rans strong all day, 75 shot, before bottle was empty i had spun a rod bearing frown.gif

BUT, I think it was my own fault, I didn't know enough about nitrous back then, and hope you can learn from my mistakes.

1st
wet it better(adds in its own fuel and is safer)

2nd
MAKE SURE TO RETARD TIMING!!!!!
if I were you I would buy a mallory 6A that has window switch and timing retard, AS WELL AS MORE SPARK(about $200)

3rd
go get you a set of 1 step colder NGK plugs like BKR7ES-1 should work fine for your 5S




thanks a bunch ill go snap some pics of what iv done today not that much tho


oh and you can find the keychain on ebay tongue.gif

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 17, 2010 - 4:29 PM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
terbear4god4life
#19
the top right is a single led for when its armed and that's the only place left for the toggle haha tongue.gif

i also mounted a fire extinguisher on the passenger middle side il get some pics of that too..

how many miles and how strong was the motor before it went??^^^^








and here is a couple outside pics for the hell of it.






This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 18, 2010 - 12:34 PM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
dans_st
#20
my car has 76,xxx miles on it, but they were really hard miles and I didn't take the precautions mentioned above, at very least I would do the colder plugs and retard the timing some.
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Smaay
#21
i highly suggest getting a wideband O2 sensor and watch the airfuels while squeezing. you can get away with a dry kit because the 5S has a return system, however the MAP sensor is going to go nuts because of the pressure you are inducing.
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terbear4god4life
#22
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QUOTE (dans_st @ May 19, 2010 - 1:27 PM) *
>my car has 76,xxx miles on it, but they were really hard miles and I didn't take the precautions mentioned above, at very least I would do the colder plugs and retard the timing some.



i might lower the shot because i still want it too be peppy without it..
zex says i don't need to retard it for a 55 shot so i might just go with that

how much difference did the nitrous make when you ran the 50 shot?? like will i loose a second with it you think?

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QUOTE (Smaay @ May 19, 2010 - 7:27 PM) *
>i highly suggest getting a wideband O2 sensor and watch the airfuels while squeezing. you can get away with a dry kit because the 5S has a return system, however the MAP sensor is going to go nuts because of the pressure you are inducing.



i have a fuel pressure gauge and exhaust temp that im going too pay wayyyy close attention too hopefully that will be enough kindasad.gif

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 19, 2010 - 12:34 AM
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
dans_st
#23
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QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ May 19, 2010 - 12:36 AM) *
>how much difference did the nitrous make when you ran the 50 shot?? like will i loose a second with it you think?


well if you mean on 1/4 mile, a 50-shot I think will only get you a max of ~.5 sec, someone correct me if I am wrong?

Also is your ZEX kit the one that has a vacuum line that connects to your FPR?

if so that one is way better because it ups the pressure and richens it up a little.
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terbear4god4life
#24
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QUOTE (dans_st @ May 19, 2010 - 9:33 PM) *
>>
QUOTE (terbear4god4life @ May 19, 2010 - 12:36 AM) *
>how much difference did the nitrous make when you ran the 50 shot?? like will i loose a second with it you think?


well if you mean on 1/4 mile, a 50-shot I think will only get you a max of ~.5 sec, someone correct me if I am wrong?

Also is your ZEX kit the one that has a vacuum line that connects to your FPR?

if so that one is way better because it ups the pressure and richens it up a little.


yea that's the zex kit i got will it keep it rich enough for a 75 shot too last a while?? if only used rarely tho? or should i just be safe and try to find smaller shot jets??
"she can polish my strut bar anytime As long as her blow-off valve's in good order"
garin
#25
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QUOTE (dans_st @ May 16, 2010 - 11:55 PM) *
>first off....

WHERE'D YOU GET THAT KEYCHAIN???????

secondly....
I had nitrous before on my celica, 50 shot, rans strong all day, 75 shot, before bottle was empty i had spun a rod bearing frown.gif

BUT, I think it was my own fault, I didn't know enough about nitrous back then, and hope you can learn from my mistakes.

1st
wet it better(adds in its own fuel and is safer)

2nd
MAKE SURE TO RETARD TIMING!!!!!
if I were you I would buy a mallory 6A that has window switch and timing retard, AS WELL AS MORE SPARK(about $200)

3rd
go get you a set of 1 step colder NGK plugs like BKR7ES-1 should work fine for your 5S


good advice. i always hear that wet nitrous is better than dry. colder plugs are a good idea too.
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lagos
#26

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QUOTE
>i have a fuel pressure gauge and exhaust temp that im going too pay wayyyy close attention too hopefully that will be enough kindasad.gif



This is pretty much why people blow their motors. They skimp out on things like a wide band, and then wonder why their motor blow. Same thing used to happen in the 5sfTe community years ago. Everyone one would install the turbo but never bothered to monitor their air to fuel ratio, and then wondered why the 5sfes would blow up after a month of boosting.

Get a wideband.
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terbear4god4life
#27
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QUOTE (lagos @ May 20, 2010 - 5:43 AM) *
>>
QUOTE
>i have a fuel pressure gauge and exhaust temp that im going too pay wayyyy close attention too hopefully that will be enough kindasad.gif



This is pretty much why people blow their motors. They skimp out on things like a wide band, and then wonder why their motor blow. Same thing used to happen in the 5sfTe community years ago. Everyone one would install the turbo but never bothered to monitor their air to fuel ratio, and then wondered why the 5sfes would blow up after a month of boosting.

Get a wideband.


im pretty limited by funds..

i mean sure i could do it right get a wideband get a air/fuel controller and than go get a tune for the nitrous..

from what iv seen people have had the most luck with a 55 shot so im attempting to find the jets..
i believe in my handy work and i can tell if im pretty much running lean or rich with the gauge..personally in my own sense if the fuel pressure drops im backing off the nitrous really quickly!

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 20, 2010 - 12:08 AM
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JoKeRkId613
#28
if you have limited funds, wouldn't it be wiser to wait til you can afford a wideband before blowing your motor and having to wait for funds to buy another motor when that happens? your handy work isn't going to save your motor. get colder plugs, tune it, do it right. that's a lot of mileage.. good luck either way.
terbear4god4life
#29
well im hoping too just shed light on all the doubt..

if a stock 5s unopened can handle boost at 250+hp it should be fine with a lil 55 shot...well see tho!

This post has been edited by terbear4god4life: May 20, 2010 - 4:08 PM
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95st-celica
#30
your gonna blow your motor homes...

if you cant afford a $175 wideband, your not going to be able to afford a new motor/car/other mode of transportation after it does blow.

listen to the advice that these guys and i am giving you...i know your anxious, and you just want to jump right in and start spraying...but if you wait that extra week to get the money up, and buy the parts you REALLY need, it will be the difference between spraying for a weekend and spraying for a few months.

in my oppinion the 5s can handle a 150 shot unopened, but thats with all the supporting mods, such as a wideband, an SAFC, FPR, colder plugs, timeing retard, oil pressure gauge, and a nitrous gauge. If i were you i would have bought all of that FIRST, then buy the bottle, that way your not going backwards.

i wish you all the luck man, and if you can get away with a 55 shot untill you get a wideband then thats great...but your motor wont like it at all, espically with almost 250k
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