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i would think that is a compliment. Apple is actually LISTENING to your problems instead of ignoring it. GO APPLE!! (yet i dont own any apple products LOL)

I think most people who say the HTC or the droid are better than the iPhone have never owned a iPhone, the iPhone is a must have it does everything those phones do time 10. Like he said above the app store is incredible, and the camera is flawless. Once you've had an iPhone there is no going back to any other phone. And if you want free apps just jailbreak the phone and install installous and wallah you have any app you want for free. The iPhone is the best phone out nothing will ever beat it. If verizon picks up the iphone I'm willing to bet NO ONE will be buying the droid anymore.

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The Apple OS for the iPhone/iPod is never as intelligent as the Android and such.


I actually lined up last Friday and got one myself. The phone is an absolute beauty. As for the OS, since I'm an iPod Touch user for years, it's pretty much the same **** other than you can now actually call people, and get online without having to checking if there's wifi.

But so far I'm loving it for what it can do. And for the stuff that it can't do, I actually don't need them anyway.

I would love to own the iPhone 4, but I'm not eligible for an upgrade until July of next year and so I'm just gonna wait till the iPhone 5 comes out next June. I heard it'll have an 8MP camera and if the 4's 5MP already beats the Evo's 8MP, imagine what the 5's 8MP will look like
Besides, I have a 3GS and with the new OS4 upgrade, I'm loving it even more, it'll keep me entertained for another year

This post has been edited by HectortheRican: Jun 28, 2010 - 10:32 AM

iPhone 4 was released 5 days ago and you've heard a rumor about the iPhone 5? Why is my bullsh!t detector going off?

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jun 28, 2010 - 1:33 PM

You do know if you have a iPhone 3GS you are eligible for a upgrade to the iPhone 4 for the first 6 months. That's what I did

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I already checked. The Apple store said I could, but when I called AT&T to make sure, they said no

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Yea you're a year locked in. Can't upgrade till you past that 6 months left point.

3GS + iOS4 upgrade is pretty much iPhone 4. No one uses the front camera anyway... I don't want people to look at me ****ting while i'm talking to them on the phone.

Except for the faster processor, double the RAM, 5mp camera, "retina" display (which is a huge improvement), and better battery life.

>im on your old boat. have a 3g running ios4 (runs slow at times). if i had the 3gs the decision to upgrade would be tougher. the only thing holding me back is ive been on tmo for over 5 years and have no complaints about their service or rates. i pay 75-80 with tax for unlimited minutes, messages, data. at&t seems so expensive to me. im having trouble justifying an extra 40 or so a month for 3g internet and limited minutes/messaging. im almost always on wi-fi anyway.

i would love the iphone 4 though. i might just end up getting a factory unlocked iphone 4 and sticking with tmo for a while longer. glad to hear you say its a big improvement overall.

i too got one of the first ones off the boat. it came in on the 23rd. got it covered with invisible shield and an apple bumper. waiting for switcheasy to mail me my case. also got a full cover from decalgirl.com.

so far im loving it. sold my 3gs on ebay for $400 and dont miss it. the extra battery life is a selling point all by itself. the new display makes me cringe when i look at the 3gs (or older) displays and even when im looking at my ipad.

if you guys arent members of www.everythingicafe.com yet, go join. TONS of information and resources.

jokerkid, do you need unlimited minutes? im paying $69 bucks on at&t for 450 rollover (i have like over 4,000 unused minutes), 1500 text, unlimited n/w and mobile to mobile, and the iphone data plan.

i talk A LOT lol. i might be able to hold back and let it roll over. i have to sit down one of these days and see how many minutes i've actually been using. as far as text goes, i definitely need more than 1500 (i think after that the only option is unlimited). which data plan did you go with? i know i use over 200mb but not more than 2gb - but i have to see how much of that is on EDGE and what's wifi. i know i'll spend more time online with the 3g whenever im away somewhere (part of the reason i dont use much edge is because the lack of speed is frustrating). so maybe i dont need everything unlimited but its nice not being tied into a contract or having to worry about minutes/text/data.

damn forkee, that phone is bulletproof! i might just get the screen protector and a bumper. i saw a video showing how easy it is to remove and replace the back cover. it's cake. looks like a lot less hassle than the older phones.

how much do you think i could get for my 16g white 3g? it's running ios4 with a software unlock.. not sure if that adds much value since any 3g can be unlocked now. i'm sure i could find some info on icafe or elsewhere. just being lazy.

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you could probably get around 250 for your 3g, as long as its in working condition. maybe even 300 if you jailbreak the sucker and put some quality apps on there to sweeten the deal.

theres tons of texting apps where you can text for free, so that shouldnt be an issue. i might even just do that and get rid of my texting plan (itll bring my monthly bill to $60!!) my data plan is unlimited. i got it before they switched to the tiered pricing. its great because i can tether it out to my ipad and use it for internet. =)

thanks for the info. i have to look into those text apps. im sure there are some drawbacks to them compared to real-time texting.

recently, i've been concerned over the antenna issue. i've heard a few friends say they don't experience the problem, but most do. consumer reports isn't recommending it until they fix the "design" flaw. there's also a class action suit against at&t and apple over their exclusivity contract. i'm just going to sit tight for a while and see what they do, if anything.

The antenna is SO AGGRAVATING ! One second I'll have 5 bars with my right hand if I switch hands to shift, or anything it drops my call because I have no bars. Also I keep expierenceing problems with it saying call failed while I'm talking. I'm thinking of selling it on eBay and going back o the 3Gs I have.

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Don't do it! Apple is coming out with an update in a week or two to fix that specific problem. Turns out that ever since the first iPhone, they've been using the wrong formula to calculate how many bars we actually have. The phone could show 5 bars but really, we might only have 2 or 3. Hang in there.

I'll hold it out for a while but it's really getting annoying with the dropped calls and calls failing. I wanted to throw this thing across the room today. On hold for 40minutes, finally get a hold of a agent and it drops
My call and says call failed I was so mad. Words don't explain.

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The update won't fix the problem.

http://gizmodo.com/5580587/applecare-the-i...antenna-problem

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 13, 2010 - 11:29 AM

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Eh.. it'll still fix the formula though

Which doesn't affect anything but the display. You can now see how few bars you actually have.

How the hell does something like this get past the product testing phase?!!?

Very shoddy for the most expensive phone out there

Yeah, apparently they're going to make the bars look bigger too. It's bs. It won't fix the problem. It'll just make it look like it's at&ts problem and they'll tell customers they're in an area without signal. From what I've read there's also an issue with some screens having a yellow hue and a problem with the proximity sensor.

:lmao: iphone :lmao:


i'll take a verizon phone that has service

^ Agreed.

Read the last half of this page and you'll know why I think the iPhone is an overpriced and unnecessary commodity. Handy, but not for me.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jul 13, 2010 - 2:01 PM

Welli love my iPhone, I talk on the phone about a hour a month. I send thousands of text a month literally and I'm on the Internet 500K a month too. This i4 tho is a POS. If anyone was to upgrade I would say just get the 3GS, something just no front camera.

Looks nice, works like crap.

I have at&t and the coverage in NC is superb so I'll probably never go to Verizon but the continuous issues Apple's having with these phones makes me even more comfortable with seeing the iPhone as a trend and nothing more.

Why is anybody saying that it's an expensive phone? It's the same price as the other smart phones. HTC Incredible is $600 without a contract, $200 with, same as the iPhone.

The iPhone isn't a "trend" either, it pretty much setup what every phone manufacturer is now copying. I'm no fanboy, but facts are facts. That being said, I may sell this thing when the unlock comes out and get money to get out of this contract and switch to Verizon and get the Incredible. The Android OS is still in its infancy and not nearly as polished as iOS but it seems on a faster track of development.

The antenna problem I can reproduce at home, but not here at work. It has something to do with signal strength, even if both places I have full bars.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 15, 2010 - 9:32 AM

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im getting the droid X in 2 days

Good luck with that. I won't be touching anything Motorola touches. From the review I just read sounds like they really mucked-up Android.

Oh and you can't run custom Android on it because of the eFuse chip that's installed on the phone, it'll self-destruct. I sh!t you not, the phone will cease to operate. Motorola say sit won't brick the phone, but it won't load. Still can't do it, but it won't destroy anything. Kinda the exact opposite of what Android is supposed to be - open.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Jul 16, 2010 - 11:45 AM