Hi all,

I am in the tail end of having a sc fitted to my 3s-gt engine. Just waiting on the tuning of it.

Currently running it in for 1000 miles. Running @ 230 BHP at the moment. Hoping to eek some more out of it after mapping.

Some things to think about if contemplating it are the stock internals will need to be changed/uprated if you want the car to last. You WILL be without the car for several months. The cost is not for the faint hearted and last but not least, GET IT DONE PROPERLY!!!!! There are so many people out there who might think they know what they are doing.... check them out BEFORE you start.

HTH

Simmo >>

This post has been edited by Simmo: Dec 14, 2003 - 7:14 PM

im at 5k miles with my 7afte setup, still going strong and most of the problems have been weeded out. just need a new fuel pump(mines dieing) and a fmic before i go to the dyno.

i recently noticed that one of the exhaust manifold studs on my car is stripped inside the head and that i will never be able to tighten it. my plan is to take all the aftermarket parts off and take it to toyota complaining that exhaust leaks from the head/manifold and let them deal with the problem under warranty.

or i might just take it to a machine shop and have it fixed or do it my self. still not sure.

custom stuff is a pain in the ass, so do a lot of research, and become an in home mechanic before you start saying you want to "Slap on" or "throw on" a turbo charger.

i have been mechanically inclined all my life, and i have worked with one form of an engine or another since i was 4 yrs old.

before you spend a penny on any parts for your car, hit the books.

that is the best advice i can give.

any books you would reccomend?

-FallenHero+Dec 14, 2003 - 9:24 PM

The reason I am leaning torwards the swap is cuz my engine now has about ~126k miles on it and at this point, FI would probably not mark a good toll on my engine. I love my car, have spent money on how it looks and like how it looks. So I am planning on doing the 3s swap next summer, old engine will be rolling onto 140k+ miles probably. So instead of buying a new car, I will keep the car and buy a new engine. There is a guy real close to me (10 min) that has done the 3s swap successfully before, and he will be helping me do it, and I will be buying it through him. So I think in my case the swap is the better plan.

ME and my pops buy cars cheap, fix it up a little, and sell it, but I found a celica and felt like keeping it and then found this forum.

The popular choice was doing the 3SGTE swap. I was about to swap a 5SFE into my 7AFE(had over 100000miles, but was in real good shape) but this site helped me decide on the 3SGTE.

Either way I think I would have gone with the swap.

1. Because the front clip already included everything you needed for a turbo and the engine is made for a turbo.

2. The cost of turboing and swapping may have ended up costing almost the same, plus if I was going to turbo I would have had to buy a 7AFE or 5SFE anyways.

3. I wanted to do the GT4 front end and I felt that it needed its partner the GT4 engine even though i got the 2nd gen from stupid toysport..kuso BAKAs. (the ST185 was in great shape though and low mileage.

4. I evantually want to do AWD and the 3SGTE seemed to be the best engine option for that.

5. SWAPPING IS GREAT FOR A PROJECT...hehe it takes so much time and work

6. 3SGTE is capable of high HP especially since its already at 225hp and 225 torque(JDM) VS. the 5SFE or 7AFE which is 135 and 110. Stock 3SGTE can handle up to 300+. But with internal changes and bigger turbo it is possible up to over 700hp. really like that one

7 There aren't too many mechanics in my area who are competent to do the swap, but my mechanic who works for my dad was willing to give it a try and I try to consult this forum and people who have done it for any help. Even if I needed to fix it I think I somehow can find a way to fix it.

8. Smog is a problem, but my dad's shop does smog....

9. It feels like most turbo setups you have to go scavenging...hehe, but the burrien is still an option.

10. THE SWAP IS SO MUCH FUN....EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM SHOULD DO IT. Heh. Just playing, but everyone had the freedom to do what they want.

THERE IS NO POINT IN TRYING TO ARGUE FOR OR AGAINST THE SWAP OR TURBO/SC SETUP. Everyone likes to be different at some point.

I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO SAY THIS, BUT THIS TOPIC IS GETTING TO BE REAL SIMILAR TO POSTS IN SOME HONDA FORUMS ..tURBO VS. H22, B18C,ETC...

Anyways I just felt like saying that and I think some of the guys who are more for the turbo may b**** at me, but I think they have the freedom to choose to like the turbo setup more.