ok so i got a 4 point racing seat belts for both sides... i did some reserch and people usually weld a bar behind the seats and hold the belts from there... but if i do that ill lose my back seats... there is any other way to install these belts without the bar or any other way that dont block my rear seats or it wont be safe without the bar?
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it definitely WONT be safe without the bar, there are certain standards that the bar must keep to be considered safe!
not to mention, im pretty sure its illegal in some states to have 4point harnesses in use for regular city driving.
you might consider a removeable seat belt bar, such as...
from Autopower Industries
not to mention, im pretty sure its illegal in some states to have 4point harnesses in use for regular city driving.
you might consider a removeable seat belt bar, such as...
from Autopower Industries
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Out of curiosity, what is the inspiration for 4 point harnesses?
Out of curiosity, what is the inspiration for 4 point harnesses?
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Im sure i will be flamed for this but i have my sealt belt bar attached to my rear strut bar
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Hopefully its something more... substantial than the OEM one?
QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Oct 21, 2010 - 8:44 AM) 
>Im sure i will be flamed for this but i have my sealt belt bar attached to my rear strut bar
Hopefully its something more... substantial than the OEM one?
-Mikemjcoury@gmail.comTeam Reynolds StyleCelica BlogCelica WikiIt will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work.
I've had four point in my car for a while. Two reasons:
(1) regular seat belt does not really work/look well with bucket seats
(2) four-point (installed properly) is much better and safer than stock seat belts.
I got my bar off of Ebay but had to modify it (weld "loops" on the top to prevent belts sliding) and also have some nuts welded to the floor for the support bars.
Overall it was worthy every penny. when I strap in, I am, literally, "glued" to the seat.
I will try to take some pics this weekend.
This post has been edited by conus00: Oct 21, 2010 - 10:51 AM
(1) regular seat belt does not really work/look well with bucket seats
(2) four-point (installed properly) is much better and safer than stock seat belts.
I got my bar off of Ebay but had to modify it (weld "loops" on the top to prevent belts sliding) and also have some nuts welded to the floor for the support bars.
Overall it was worthy every penny. when I strap in, I am, literally, "glued" to the seat.
I will try to take some pics this weekend.
This post has been edited by conus00: Oct 21, 2010 - 10:51 AM
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wow, unsafe dude!
picture this... God forbid you get into an accident where your car rolls over!
What happens with stock seatbelts is if the roof collapses you can slide to the right to prevent your head from getting crushed.
With a 4-point, you can't move at all and guess what? Your head is the highest point in the car!
To the OP use an roll bar/cage no matter what, so in the event of a roll over your head isn't crushed.
This post has been edited by sphinxxx: Oct 21, 2010 - 12:17 PM
QUOTE (96stgreendemon @ Oct 21, 2010 - 8:44 AM)
>Im sure i will be flamed for this but i have my sealt belt bar attached to my rear strut bar
wow, unsafe dude!
picture this... God forbid you get into an accident where your car rolls over!
What happens with stock seatbelts is if the roof collapses you can slide to the right to prevent your head from getting crushed.
With a 4-point, you can't move at all and guess what? Your head is the highest point in the car!
To the OP use an roll bar/cage no matter what, so in the event of a roll over your head isn't crushed.
This post has been edited by sphinxxx: Oct 21, 2010 - 12:17 PM
Some pics of people who done it should be great but I don't want a whole rear cage inside mi car.. Just a bar.. I've seen few people holding their belts to the rear seat belts.. Not the actual belt but where you attach it...in the same rear seats.. What abou that? And I can just get any bar and weld it? Or I cand get something already made for our cars?
installing those belts the wrong way will hurt you alot more than help you in a crash.
no to mention banging your head off the bars, cause last i checked, i dont know many people who wear helmets while they drive on the street.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47552
no to mention banging your head off the bars, cause last i checked, i dont know many people who wear helmets while they drive on the street.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47552
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+1 ^
In my honest opinion... and i mean no offense... its your life do with it as you please!
But if you're getting the seat belt harness just to look cool, big mistake!
a 4 point seatbelt harness is not a toy, or a cosmetic mod to look cool!
its a purpose built safety restraint system for track use only!!
do it right or don't bother doing it at all, it may save your life!
thats all i have to say!
QUOTE (presure2 @ Oct 21, 2010 - 4:08 PM)
>installing those belts the wrong way will hurt you alot more than help you in a crash.
no to mention banging your head off the bars, cause last i checked, i dont know many people who wear helmets while they drive on the street.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47552
no to mention banging your head off the bars, cause last i checked, i dont know many people who wear helmets while they drive on the street.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47552
+1 ^
In my honest opinion... and i mean no offense... its your life do with it as you please!
But if you're getting the seat belt harness just to look cool, big mistake!
a 4 point seatbelt harness is not a toy, or a cosmetic mod to look cool!
its a purpose built safety restraint system for track use only!!
do it right or don't bother doing it at all, it may save your life!
thats all i have to say!
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mmmmm interesting...i guess i just gonna keep my factory seat belts lol and i was thinking 40% cool and 60% safety lol... but i just realized its illegal to use those belts haha i guess im just gonna sell them. ill post pics of them. if someone is interested let me know they are CORBEAU, black, 4 point harness.. and used but in very very mint cond they look new and i have both sides
QUOTE (sphinxxx @ Oct 21, 2010 - 6:54 PM)
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+1 ^
In my honest opinion... and i mean no offense... its your life do with it as you please!
But if you're getting the seat belt harness just to look cool, big mistake!
a 4 point seatbelt harness is not a toy, or a cosmetic mod to look cool!
its a purpose built safety restraint system for track use only!!
do it right or don't bother doing it at all, it may save your life!
thats all i have to say!
QUOTE (presure2 @ Oct 21, 2010 - 4:08 PM)
>installing those belts the wrong way will hurt you alot more than help you in a crash.
no to mention banging your head off the bars, cause last i checked, i dont know many people who wear helmets while they drive on the street.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47552
no to mention banging your head off the bars, cause last i checked, i dont know many people who wear helmets while they drive on the street.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=47552
+1 ^
In my honest opinion... and i mean no offense... its your life do with it as you please!
But if you're getting the seat belt harness just to look cool, big mistake!
a 4 point seatbelt harness is not a toy, or a cosmetic mod to look cool!
its a purpose built safety restraint system for track use only!!
do it right or don't bother doing it at all, it may save your life!
thats all i have to say!
mmmmm interesting...i guess i just gonna keep my factory seat belts lol and i was thinking 40% cool and 60% safety lol... but i just realized its illegal to use those belts haha i guess im just gonna sell them. ill post pics of them. if someone is interested let me know they are CORBEAU, black, 4 point harness.. and used but in very very mint cond they look new and i have both sides