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Wow... just wow.
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Lawsuit much ?
Hope the shop has insurance.
wont be a lawsuit. the shops that dyno usually have the customer sign a waiver releasing all responsibility of the shop should anything happen to the car. damn... just damn.
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I would have shat a brick... wow.
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Yep, you take your own risks when you dyno your car.
QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Dec 6, 2010 - 1:26 AM) 
>wont be a lawsuit. the shops that dyno usually have the customer sign a waiver releasing all responsibility of the shop should anything happen to the car. damn... just damn.
Yep, you take your own risks when you dyno your car.
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Poor evo.
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QUOTE (whatthe @ Dec 6, 2010 - 10:15 AM)
>Poor evo.
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Oh, so that's what I've been doing wrong...
Signed waiver or not, I'd kill the guy that did that to my car. Yes, some responsibility is on the Evo owner for not thoroughly checking out the shop and making sure his car was secured properly, but I feel like you shouldn't have to make sure your car is tied down. If the guy with the dyno doesn't know to tie it down, he should have to pay for his own mistakes.
Signed waiver or not, I'd kill the guy that did that to my car. Yes, some responsibility is on the Evo owner for not thoroughly checking out the shop and making sure his car was secured properly, but I feel like you shouldn't have to make sure your car is tied down. If the guy with the dyno doesn't know to tie it down, he should have to pay for his own mistakes.
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this is correct, but more should be added. the car shop would not be liable if damage was done as a result of the car and it's modifications that may make it unstable during a dyno that would otherwise have been a normal situation with an average dyno client. ex. the wheel flies off/exhaust pipe blows up, etc. aka "if the car breaks, its because the owner messed with it. dyno at your own risk"
from what is shown on the video, this is not the fault of the car owner but rather damage done as a result of negligence of the dyno operator. this was an event that happened during normal dyno operation and could easily have been any other car. an error made in anchoring the vehicle down resulted in property damage to the customer. in this case, the car owner may be able to collect compensation. also, if faulty anchoring equipment is the culprit, the shop may sue whomever they bought it from (assuming it was bought brand new) if they can prove they followed correct pre-dyno procedures in anchoring the car down.
of course, this took place in puerto rico, so all of the above might as well get thrown out the window if the justice system is not the same.
anyways...facepalm x2
QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Dec 6, 2010 - 12:26 AM)
>wont be a lawsuit. the shops that dyno usually have the customer sign a waiver releasing all responsibility of the shop should anything happen to the car. damn... just damn.
this is correct, but more should be added. the car shop would not be liable if damage was done as a result of the car and it's modifications that may make it unstable during a dyno that would otherwise have been a normal situation with an average dyno client. ex. the wheel flies off/exhaust pipe blows up, etc. aka "if the car breaks, its because the owner messed with it. dyno at your own risk"
from what is shown on the video, this is not the fault of the car owner but rather damage done as a result of negligence of the dyno operator. this was an event that happened during normal dyno operation and could easily have been any other car. an error made in anchoring the vehicle down resulted in property damage to the customer. in this case, the car owner may be able to collect compensation. also, if faulty anchoring equipment is the culprit, the shop may sue whomever they bought it from (assuming it was bought brand new) if they can prove they followed correct pre-dyno procedures in anchoring the car down.
of course, this took place in puerto rico, so all of the above might as well get thrown out the window if the justice system is not the same.
anyways...facepalm x2
ouch!!!!!!!!
Ouch. This is the second dyno FAIL I've come across today.
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x2 and ive even heard of them having the owner pay for damages in some cases
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i agree, you HAVE to be sure the shop is reputable, and the operator is CERTIFIED. i dont care how smart he is, i'd feel better with a certified dyno tech. and even if the shop does tie it down, correctly or not- something goes wrong, its gonna be an "oh well, sorry about your car" once you sign that waiver.
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i agree, but iirc, every waiver ive seen has said release the operator and owner of said shop of all responsiblity no matter what. 1st time i dyno'd my car, the wording was so scary that i didnt want to dyno it at first! i was like jeez! something happens, I (as in ME) MIGHT even be held responsible?!? shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!
QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 6, 2010 - 9:18 AM)
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Yep, you take your own risks when you dyno your car.
QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Dec 6, 2010 - 1:26 AM)
>wont be a lawsuit. the shops that dyno usually have the customer sign a waiver releasing all responsibility of the shop should anything happen to the car. damn... just damn.
Yep, you take your own risks when you dyno your car.
x2 and ive even heard of them having the owner pay for damages in some cases
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 7, 2010 - 3:15 AM)
>Oh, so that's what I've been doing wrong...
Signed waiver or not, I'd kill the guy that did that to my car. Yes, some responsibility is on the Evo owner for not thoroughly checking out the shop and making sure his car was secured properly, but I feel like you shouldn't have to make sure your car is tied down. If the guy with the dyno doesn't know to tie it down, he should have to pay for his own mistakes.
Signed waiver or not, I'd kill the guy that did that to my car. Yes, some responsibility is on the Evo owner for not thoroughly checking out the shop and making sure his car was secured properly, but I feel like you shouldn't have to make sure your car is tied down. If the guy with the dyno doesn't know to tie it down, he should have to pay for his own mistakes.
i agree, you HAVE to be sure the shop is reputable, and the operator is CERTIFIED. i dont care how smart he is, i'd feel better with a certified dyno tech. and even if the shop does tie it down, correctly or not- something goes wrong, its gonna be an "oh well, sorry about your car" once you sign that waiver.
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QUOTE (forkee @ Dec 7, 2010 - 4:37 AM)
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this is correct, but more should be added. the car shop would not be liable if damage was done as a result of the car and it's modifications that may make it unstable during a dyno that would otherwise have been a normal situation with an average dyno client. ex. the wheel flies off/exhaust pipe blows up, etc. aka "if the car breaks, its because the owner messed with it. dyno at your own risk"
from what is shown on the video, this is not the fault of the car owner but rather damage done as a result of negligence of the dyno operator. this was an event that happened during normal dyno operation and could easily have been any other car. an error made in anchoring the vehicle down resulted in property damage to the customer. in this case, the car owner may be able to collect compensation. also, if faulty anchoring equipment is the culprit, the shop may sue whomever they bought it from (assuming it was bought brand new) if they can prove they followed correct pre-dyno procedures in anchoring the car down.
of course, this took place in puerto rico, so all of the above might as well get thrown out the window if the justice system is not the same.
anyways.... facepalm x2
QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Dec 6, 2010 - 12:26 AM)
>wont be a lawsuit. the shops that dyno usually have the customer sign a waiver releasing all responsibility of the shop should anything happen to the car. damn... just damn.
this is correct, but more should be added. the car shop would not be liable if damage was done as a result of the car and it's modifications that may make it unstable during a dyno that would otherwise have been a normal situation with an average dyno client. ex. the wheel flies off/exhaust pipe blows up, etc. aka "if the car breaks, its because the owner messed with it. dyno at your own risk"
from what is shown on the video, this is not the fault of the car owner but rather damage done as a result of negligence of the dyno operator. this was an event that happened during normal dyno operation and could easily have been any other car. an error made in anchoring the vehicle down resulted in property damage to the customer. in this case, the car owner may be able to collect compensation. also, if faulty anchoring equipment is the culprit, the shop may sue whomever they bought it from (assuming it was bought brand new) if they can prove they followed correct pre-dyno procedures in anchoring the car down.
of course, this took place in puerto rico, so all of the above might as well get thrown out the window if the justice system is not the same.
anyways.... facepalm x2
i agree, but iirc, every waiver ive seen has said release the operator and owner of said shop of all responsiblity no matter what. 1st time i dyno'd my car, the wording was so scary that i didnt want to dyno it at first! i was like jeez! something happens, I (as in ME) MIGHT even be held responsible?!? shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!
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The waivers I have signed say that they are not responsible for the car breaking during the dyno run(s), and if it does break (i.e. Blowing a hole through the block, coolant or oil leaks, spills of any kind, etc.) you are required to pay X amount per hour for the shop to clean up.
But in the case of an idiot operator not properly strapping a car down is completely the shop's fault - and if you're shopping around for a dyno, any shop that is confident in their staff will not try and make you sign a waiver releasing them from that liability.
But in the case of an idiot operator not properly strapping a car down is completely the shop's fault - and if you're shopping around for a dyno, any shop that is confident in their staff will not try and make you sign a waiver releasing them from that liability.
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looks like one of the anchors failed.
makes you wonder why they dont use chains to tie down cars.
makes you wonder why they dont use chains to tie down cars.
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because those straps (ok, maybe not those straps that were used in the video) are stronger than chain. (unless you get the MONSTER chain, but that wouldn't be practical.)
QUOTE (Hanyo @ Dec 11, 2010 - 4:03 AM)
>looks like one of the anchors failed.
makes you wonder why they dont use chains to tie down cars.
makes you wonder why they dont use chains to tie down cars.
because those straps (ok, maybe not those straps that were used in the video) are stronger than chain. (unless you get the MONSTER chain, but that wouldn't be practical.)
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