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i just found my swap !
i had 2 choices:
1- 3sgte st205 engine whit all wiring and stuff
mr2 lsd transmission rebuilt never run whit inner mr2 shaft and outter celica shaft
3" exhaust custom
st205 radiator
brand new walbro fuel pump 255lph
2000 $
2-3sgte st205 engine whit all wiring and stuff
original 5sfe trasmission already hybrid clutch
3" exhaust custom
st205 radiator
brand new walbro fuel pump 255lph
1400$
because i dont have enough money and dont want spend too much in the swap, i will go whit choices number 2, soon i start the project i will put a progress for u all can see if i can do it in 3 day, its not that much complex, after the wiring extend done..
This post has been edited by Needles: Feb 28, 2011 - 11:57 AM
i had 2 choices:
1- 3sgte st205 engine whit all wiring and stuff
mr2 lsd transmission rebuilt never run whit inner mr2 shaft and outter celica shaft
3" exhaust custom
st205 radiator
brand new walbro fuel pump 255lph
2000 $
2-3sgte st205 engine whit all wiring and stuff
original 5sfe trasmission already hybrid clutch
3" exhaust custom
st205 radiator
brand new walbro fuel pump 255lph
1400$
because i dont have enough money and dont want spend too much in the swap, i will go whit choices number 2, soon i start the project i will put a progress for u all can see if i can do it in 3 day, its not that much complex, after the wiring extend done..
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to be continued...
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Oh my god
Shut your ****ing face, uncle ****er...
Oh my god
Shut your ****ing face, uncle ****er...
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to be continued....
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dont be a dick dude.
dont be a dick dude.
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Bahahahahah Mike xD Don't worry, I thought it was funny, he actually took the time to make the picture
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dont be a dick dude.
dont be a dick dude.
Bahahahahah Mike xD Don't worry, I thought it was funny, he actually took the time to make the picture
taking too long to mod since '09June '12 COTM'95 AT200
last week another bad driver push the brake and slide on me, i had to go between 2 car to avoid collision, but the space was so thin that my passaenger mirror broke up, i was wondering if i can fix it....

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This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 20, 2011 - 10:05 PM
finnally, i will receive my 3sgte and stuff in 7 days !
the one who sell it to me had never installed it since he buy the front clip last summer, but he did start the engine and he say its all fine,
and i really wonder what the exhaust gonna look in my car because he said that the rear of it pass in the exterior of the rear arm..... its that too low ?
its 3" custom
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and i really wonder what the exhaust gonna look in my car because he said that the rear of it pass in the exterior of the rear arm..... its that too low ?
its 3" custom
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Are you f*cking 4 years old?
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lol!
he isnt 4 years old.
he has a sense of humor.
lol!
he isnt 4 years old.
he has a sense of humor.
A work in (extremely slow) progress
question plz, since the ecu is in middle of the car in the console, should it be easyer to just do one hole in the firewall to pass the wiring harness however than extend it ?
what ever you feel more comfortable with. I'd rather extend the wiring rather than cut another hole in the firewall
3sgte for sunday...... i just talk to my good friend who gonna sell me the stuff, he s gonna let me the mr2 tranny brand new rebuilt whit mr2 and st185 shaft, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! FOR 400$ MORE !!!! thanks to toyota11 [url="http://toyota11.monchar.com/"]http://toyota11.monchar.com/[/url
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........finally, i will not put the mr2 transmission, reason is:
-need st205 support for transmission (i dont have)
-need st205 cable (dont have)
-need new cluster gauge to fit
-and the worst, is that transmission, toyota11 say to me in 5th gears he goes 120km/h at like 4000 /4200 rpm !!
even if the the e153 have better clutch, and bigger shaft, and lsd, i think i will save myself from a lot of trouble ,
i will buy a performance clucht for s54,
what is yours suggestion , what kind of clutch is the best,? i dont want to go more than 300hp in the future .
This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 16, 2011 - 1:21 PM
........finally, i will not put the mr2 transmission, reason is:
-need st205 support for transmission (i dont have)
-need st205 cable (dont have)
-need new cluster gauge to fit
-and the worst, is that transmission, toyota11 say to me in 5th gears he goes 120km/h at like 4000 /4200 rpm !!
even if the the e153 have better clutch, and bigger shaft, and lsd, i think i will save myself from a lot of trouble ,
i will buy a performance clucht for s54,
what is yours suggestion , what kind of clutch is the best,? i dont want to go more than 300hp in the future .
This post has been edited by Needles: Mar 16, 2011 - 1:21 PM
im pretty sure the e153 has taller gears
proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]309,000 miles n' ....dead-> ALIVE AGAIN!! ~14,000 miles driven
i got the beast !

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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new

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one piece exhaust , 3inch, whit 3inch downpipe i need modified ( i have all the connection, just need weld

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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer

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walbro fuel pump

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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new

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one piece exhaust , 3inch, whit 3inch downpipe i need modified ( i have all the connection, just need weld

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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer

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walbro fuel pump

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ho yeah and 2 custom mount for the tranny came whit it, and there is some better pic, (of my dirty car)

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and for the last time, the 2.2l

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and for the last time, the 2.2l

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fitment look ok...but you still got small gaps in the headlamp bottom portion and the top of the nose.
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does someone know how much horsepower the downpipe and 3" exhaust give on stock 3sgte ?
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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new

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one piece exhaust , 3inch, whit 3inch downpipe i need modified ( i have all the connection, just need weld

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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer

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walbro fuel pump

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the engine is in very good condition, it is stunning
the radiator is brand new

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one piece exhaust , 3inch, whit 3inch downpipe i need modified ( i have all the connection, just need weld

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totally brand new rebuilt mr2 tranny, whit st185 outter mr2 inner and spacer

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walbro fuel pump

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does someone know how much horsepower the downpipe and 3" exhaust give on stock 3sgte ?
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i cannot see what u mean... sorry im blind, could u show me mark where the gap is... or maybe in the upper, between the hood there is some gap, but that is normal
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>fitment look ok...but you still got small gaps in the headlamp bottom portion and the top of the nose.
i cannot see what u mean... sorry im blind, could u show me mark where the gap is... or maybe in the upper, between the hood there is some gap, but that is normal
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No two 3S-GTE motors are the same, but depending on the boost level you're running and the condition of the motor & turbo internally, you could achieve anywhere from 180hp to 300hp at the treads
Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
today i have put the 3" exhaust and apexi muffler i got. i was on the go to put the 3sgte next week, so i wanted to do some job before i start the swap, cauze im using the car now. so after i fit the exhaust,there was a gap between manifold and exhaust on the stock 2.2l engine like 7 inch approx, i had 2 old exhaust , so i cut the tip that connect to manifold on the 2 exhaust, joined together and that make the missing link needed, til next week (i have 3" downpipe to custom it to fit the one from the st185 i think , custom one...) so, it small mouth whit big big ass lol, the sound is really like it got base sound , at 3k rpm its too loud, at 4k rpm its the best sound i ever heard, no base at 4k, am asking myself if i need another resonator or change the big big apexi muffler , anyway, everybody looked at my caR today (i work on the delivery whit it) and 3 wanted to race, bmw 2011, volvo 06-07 modified turbo , and some others....oooo man i need my engine in !!!! i was just not ready for the challenge lol. and at the little store someone say to me, hey{ u have a nice car, what is it ? and he was really impress by it, he ask to check it out and the store keeper want to check it too lol, and he show me is car on is i-phone, he did have a 2007 porsche twin turbo 3.8 v6, i was happy to know when u have a porsche like this u still have interest in a 1994 celica lol. but bad news anyway, when i changed my exhaust i saw my cross member is failing at the left tab, the tab ok but the cross member is crack there. and i hear knock tok tlok not tok when i turn left at certain speed, **** !i need new cross member before the swap......
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umm i have a caldina engine i paid 1200 for it and dr tweak does the wireharness for 580 flat there is nothin different about this engine but that umm idk maybe that its not as old as the 3sgte st205 it drop's right in u can use most of the parts off of the st205 only thing that is different is that it has c.o.p's im so tired of hearing people talk bad about this engine if u ask me i think yall are just to cheap to buy a caldina .... and the bad thing is .. is that if u already have a gt celica all you have to do is drop the engine in change the flywheel and clutch and send your wire harness to tweak if u can get one for 1500 your going to spend like 2500 total on the swap if u do it your self wowwww that cost sooooooooooooo muchhhhh and u got 20 more hp for 400 bucks please learnnnn your info before u talk ish and u cant even tell me anything i dont know because i have a caldina and have already done this swap so i know what it takes and what it doesn't
>The st215 3sgte in our cars is not a very smart move compared to the 3rd gen. Member _jim_ can ship a FULL 3rd gen 3sgte swap to you for $2100. And saying the 4th gen is 1500(shipped??) and you HAVE to have the harness done by a professional, you will NOT, i repeat, you will NOT be able to do that harness conversion yourself. Your looking at 2100$ alone right there.
Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:
1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard
If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.
I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.
Heres the 3sgte generation breakdowns:
1st gen-Useless, was in the st165 rally celica but compared to the other gens its useless
2nd gen- ST185 rally 5th gen celica-Different turbo and various parts,wiring is much harder than the 3rd gen, but all costs on this engine are cheaper(engine,parts,ect) with minimal power lose.
3rd gen-st205 6gc celica-Literally 6 wires to splice,highest HP #s for less about of money, documented swaps to hell and back
4th gen-st215 CADILINA-wiring NIGHTMARE,initial HP #s same as 3rd gen but MANY parts need upgraded to get the hp #s up. The wiring has never been documented because it is incredibly hard
If you'd like more in detail differences between the engines i know there's quite a few in depth replies about it. But yes all the 2nd,3rd and 4th (and possibly the 1st) are all physically the same the the mounts/tranny are the same.
I agree with the tiger imports, i've never heard a 100% good story come out of they're transactions.
umm i have a caldina engine i paid 1200 for it and dr tweak does the wireharness for 580 flat there is nothin different about this engine but that umm idk maybe that its not as old as the 3sgte st205 it drop's right in u can use most of the parts off of the st205 only thing that is different is that it has c.o.p's im so tired of hearing people talk bad about this engine if u ask me i think yall are just to cheap to buy a caldina .... and the bad thing is .. is that if u already have a gt celica all you have to do is drop the engine in change the flywheel and clutch and send your wire harness to tweak if u can get one for 1500 your going to spend like 2500 total on the swap if u do it your self wowwww that cost sooooooooooooo muchhhhh and u got 20 more hp for 400 bucks please learnnnn your info before u talk ish and u cant even tell me anything i dont know because i have a caldina and have already done this swap so i know what it takes and what it doesn't
picture of my new muffler , i just put a cylinder rubber inside the tip to make less base sound , it should be half inch smaller,

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