His response makes sense. I'm satisfied.
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regardless of how cheap we paid for it i have the right to show my concerns (complaints) for the poor welds.. its not just a matter of how well the product performs, it is also how well the product was made. i got this downpipe so i would never worry about having to get another one, unless i do a turbo upgrade..
as for the "tiny weld" it looks like it is more or less about 3 rows of crappy welds the look as though they were trying to fill in a good size gap.. and on the outside of the pipe there is a section where i can clearly see a lack of penetration, and can just barely see the actual metal b/c the HPC couldnt fill the small crevice.
as for the "tiny weld" it looks like it is more or less about 3 rows of crappy welds the look as though they were trying to fill in a good size gap.. and on the outside of the pipe there is a section where i can clearly see a lack of penetration, and can just barely see the actual metal b/c the HPC couldnt fill the small crevice.
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i'm curious if you're a certified welder or not.
the only way to know for sure would be to NDI the welds....so you'd have to strip it down to bare metal for a quick test...either dye penetrant+UV light or eddy current or x-ray...then clean it off and re-finish it.
while that may look iffy for welds in my line of work, for the intended application, it should do just fine imo.
if it does fail, then I don't think getting a new one would really be an issue for Berk.
just my 2 cents
QUOTE (gt4celica90 @ Mar 5, 2011 - 10:42 PM) 
>regardless of how cheap we paid for it i have the right to show my concerns (complaints) for the poor welds.. its not just a matter of how well the product performs, it is also how well the product was made. i got this downpipe so i would never worry about having to get another one, unless i do a turbo upgrade..
as for the "tiny weld" it looks like it is more or less about 3 rows of crappy welds the look as though they were trying to fill in a good size gap.. and on the outside of the pipe there is a section where i can clearly see a lack of penetration, and can just barely see the actual metal b/c the HPC couldnt fill the small crevice.
as for the "tiny weld" it looks like it is more or less about 3 rows of crappy welds the look as though they were trying to fill in a good size gap.. and on the outside of the pipe there is a section where i can clearly see a lack of penetration, and can just barely see the actual metal b/c the HPC couldnt fill the small crevice.
i'm curious if you're a certified welder or not.
the only way to know for sure would be to NDI the welds....so you'd have to strip it down to bare metal for a quick test...either dye penetrant+UV light or eddy current or x-ray...then clean it off and re-finish it.
while that may look iffy for welds in my line of work, for the intended application, it should do just fine imo.
if it does fail, then I don't think getting a new one would really be an issue for Berk.
just my 2 cents
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The both of you bring up good points. I guess we will just have to see in the future how everything turns out...if anything does go wrong, lets hope it's within the one year warranty period so it can be replaced.
Any pressing concerns should be addressed to berk technology, just to keep this thread clean and civilized. Let's not start a debate now...haha
QUOTE (luka @ Mar 5, 2011 - 11:19 PM)
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i'm curious if you're a certified welder or not.
the only way to know for sure would be to NDI the welds....so you'd have to strip it down to bare metal for a quick test...either dye penetrant+UV light or eddy current or x-ray...then clean it off and re-finish it.
while that may look iffy for welds in my line of work, for the intended application, it should do just fine imo.
if it does fail, then I don't think getting a new one would really be an issue for Berk.
just my 2 cents
QUOTE (gt4celica90 @ Mar 5, 2011 - 10:42 PM)
>regardless of how cheap we paid for it i have the right to show my concerns (complaints) for the poor welds.. its not just a matter of how well the product performs, it is also how well the product was made. i got this downpipe so i would never worry about having to get another one, unless i do a turbo upgrade..
as for the "tiny weld" it looks like it is more or less about 3 rows of crappy welds the look as though they were trying to fill in a good size gap.. and on the outside of the pipe there is a section where i can clearly see a lack of penetration, and can just barely see the actual metal b/c the HPC couldnt fill the small crevice.
as for the "tiny weld" it looks like it is more or less about 3 rows of crappy welds the look as though they were trying to fill in a good size gap.. and on the outside of the pipe there is a section where i can clearly see a lack of penetration, and can just barely see the actual metal b/c the HPC couldnt fill the small crevice.
i'm curious if you're a certified welder or not.
the only way to know for sure would be to NDI the welds....so you'd have to strip it down to bare metal for a quick test...either dye penetrant+UV light or eddy current or x-ray...then clean it off and re-finish it.
while that may look iffy for welds in my line of work, for the intended application, it should do just fine imo.
if it does fail, then I don't think getting a new one would really be an issue for Berk.
just my 2 cents
The both of you bring up good points. I guess we will just have to see in the future how everything turns out...if anything does go wrong, lets hope it's within the one year warranty period so it can be replaced.
Any pressing concerns should be addressed to berk technology, just to keep this thread clean and civilized. Let's not start a debate now...haha
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AWS certified in sheet metal welding. need me to copy the cert?
This post has been edited by gt4celica90: Mar 6, 2011 - 12:02 PM
This post has been edited by gt4celica90: Mar 6, 2011 - 12:02 PM
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i'm not really bashing your knowledge, just trying to get a handle on where your coming from.
I currently work turbine engines and worked alongside the metals tech shop(machining/welding) for the last 5 years, where i'll be transferring into shortly. And I still don't know everything there is to know about it yet...even after getting certs in aircraft maintenance and a degree in aeronautics.
welding takes years to get to a level where you can fail or pass just by looking...i've seen it happen first hand.
and I don't think sheet metal welding is the same as manifold welding
QUOTE (gt4celica90 @ Mar 6, 2011 - 6:21 AM)
>i'm 20 years old. AWS certified in sheet metal welding. need me to copy the cert? Brian C. Nielsen. ASE certified in brakes, suspension, and engine performance. i may be young but i'm not some stupid kid...
i'm not really bashing your knowledge, just trying to get a handle on where your coming from.
I currently work turbine engines and worked alongside the metals tech shop(machining/welding) for the last 5 years, where i'll be transferring into shortly. And I still don't know everything there is to know about it yet...even after getting certs in aircraft maintenance and a degree in aeronautics.
welding takes years to get to a level where you can fail or pass just by looking...i've seen it happen first hand.
and I don't think sheet metal welding is the same as manifold welding
the joint isnt flat and there is a small section there is a lack of penetration. even a visual inspection of the weld would be a fail.
sry to do this on the thread guys..
This post has been edited by gt4celica90: Mar 6, 2011 - 12:01 PM
sry to do this on the thread guys..
This post has been edited by gt4celica90: Mar 6, 2011 - 12:01 PM
if you guys arent satisfied how about just take it up with berk and get your money back, im happy with my purchase and for the price paid. like said, its a downpipe which is exhaust side, i really doubt we will have any problems with these pipes.
/end thread.
/end thread.
current project: looking :(
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Thanks for chipping in Kellen. I second what you said.
I would appreciate any further discussion about certification be done in PM, just to keep this thread clean and civilized. Let's not push this any further.
Discussion about the product itself is welcomed but please respect different opinions
QUOTE (TEAMFaint @ Mar 6, 2011 - 11:10 AM)
>if you guys arent satisfied how about just take it up with berk and get your money back, im happy with my purchase and for the price paid. like said, its a downpipe which is exhaust side, i really doubt we will have any problems with these pipes.
/end thread.
/end thread.
Thanks for chipping in Kellen. I second what you said.
I would appreciate any further discussion about certification be done in PM, just to keep this thread clean and civilized. Let's not push this any further.
Discussion about the product itself is welcomed but please respect different opinions
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No updates yet?? I'm still waiting for mine to be shipped 
Does anyone have an update? It looks like less DPs have been shipped out lately!? To which e-mail we send questions?
This post has been edited by Domspun: Mar 9, 2011 - 8:43 AM
This post has been edited by Domspun: Mar 9, 2011 - 8:43 AM
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Please email concerns to sales@berktechnology.com.
An update from Bryan at Berk:
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QUOTE (Domspun @ Mar 9, 2011 - 5:43 AM)
>Does anyone have an update? It looks like less DPs have been shipped out lately!? To which e-mail we send questions?
Please email concerns to sales@berktechnology.com.
An update from Bryan at Berk:
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>We have more out for coating and we will ship them as they are available.
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mine arrived today (had shipped to my mothers house as I live in an appt so i haven't had a chance to see it yet)
Does anyone know how effective the ceramic coating is?
My sports cat has ceramic wrap and I can touch it when engines warmed up. Was hoping I dont have to wrap these as well.
My sports cat has ceramic wrap and I can touch it when engines warmed up. Was hoping I dont have to wrap these as well.
^^good question. I would guess wrapping isn't necessary when it is already coated but it never hurts to go bigger
This post has been edited by schmooot: Mar 10, 2011 - 4:45 PM
This post has been edited by schmooot: Mar 10, 2011 - 4:45 PM
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im pretty sure if u wrap the pipe after the hpc the warranty will be void.. if u wanted to wrap it u prolly should have just got the standard pipe..
thats my point. I bought this because I didn't want to wrap it. The wrapping always get wet and I have to wait for it to warm up and dry off before driving or it'll steam like a bitch when I'm driving.
Space is tight too. Very close to my rad fans when I have wrapping on my existing sports cat which is why I went for this DP.
Space is tight too. Very close to my rad fans when I have wrapping on my existing sports cat which is why I went for this DP.
yo has anyone done the install yet? where in the world does that bracket go?????
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the is a mount for an oil drain tube that unbolts and the dp mount squeezes in between the block and it.
once u put the pipe on u will have no problem figuring it out.
QUOTE (ST205WRC @ Mar 12, 2011 - 11:25 PM)
>yo has anyone done the install yet? where in the world does that bracket go?????
the is a mount for an oil drain tube that unbolts and the dp mount squeezes in between the block and it.
once u put the pipe on u will have no problem figuring it out.
yeah thats what i figured but i couldnt get the drain tube to budge. it wouldnt move enough to get in under so i just made it work lol longer bolt and i put it on top.
i carefully bent it up with a prybar just enough to squeeze the bracket behind it.
Anyone have pictures of it installed? I would love to see it compared to the stock one. I have the st185 but I'm sure its similar to the st205 for fitment.
Just curious to see it!
Brad
Just curious to see it!
Brad
just one pic.
ummm I could use a little help. My cat has a sensor at the bottom just before the flange? It isn't listed in the service manual. Threaded into a bung down there....on the opposite side as the wideband bung that the dp came with. Any ideas? Like wtf is it for? can I just unplug it w/o getting an engine code?
pic for reference
This post has been edited by schmooot: Mar 14, 2011 - 9:02 PM
pic for reference
This post has been edited by schmooot: Mar 14, 2011 - 9:02 PM
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its a cat temp sensor. dont worry about it, it will not give a code or anything.
it monitors the efficiency of the cat.
any updates on the ones that hasn't been shipped out? I emailed them but no response from berk..
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I remember seeing something about a cat overheat warning light in the manual.
So I guess
no cat=no problem
QUOTE (ST205WRC @ Mar 14, 2011 - 8:55 PM)
>its a cat temp sensor. dont worry about it, it will not give a code or anything.
I remember seeing something about a cat overheat warning light in the manual.
So I guess
no cat=no problem
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None yet. Last I heard from them, they said they will ship them out as soon as they are available...
QUOTE (team_omega @ Mar 14, 2011 - 9:57 PM)
>any updates on the ones that hasn't been shipped out? I emailed them but no response from berk..
None yet. Last I heard from them, they said they will ship them out as soon as they are available...
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so wats the deal...no shipments for over two weeks now,,,any updates??? still waiting for mine