going through alot the threads on here and I see alot of baggers, haters, whatever you wanna call it. If you enjoy this site and want to be on here for awhile than I suggest you watch what you say and the words you use otherwise, your not gonna like the results. This site is designed as a fun and interesting tool for us. There should be no reason for a moderator, but givin the past events and some people that just don't get it, there is. Just watch what you say, how you say it and, your time on 6gc.net should be an enjoyable one.

This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Feb 1, 2011 - 8:48 AM

I could not agree more, and i really think that some of the people on here should really stop hating on the new guys, thats alot of the reason people do not stay long here, were here to help people with our mutual love for celicas/toyota not flame them for not getting results from an outdated search system. just think before you flame someone, it may not be your style, but its not your car

I usually don't comment on these kind of threads but lately, I too have been seeing this kind of behavior. Luckily, it is not as bad as other car forums.

I agree with you both but also want to point out that its not just old members hating on new members but new members having no respect for the older members. Not talking from my own experience but its something I observed on here quite frequently.

Old members, like 96stgreendemon said, take it easy on the new members. You were there once before, we all have.
New members, listen to the older members. Some people here are old as your parents. Respect them.
If you're in the middle, well just be nice to both.

I agree with you 100% don't get me wrong.
But to be honest, I've seen forums that are probably 10 times worse, language wise, and content wise.
With people hating on each other left right and center.
Thats probably why I like 6gc better though..

I think Shig hit the nail on the head with the new members having no respect for older members and vice versa. It just seems to be a perpetual cycle of new members disrespecting older, more knowledgeable members so the older members lose respect for the new members. And unfortunately, this isn't a cycle that will ever be broken.

I too also agree. Another car forum I'm on have "thanks" buttons to thank other people for good posts. However...they also have "fail" buttons which many people receive for bad posts...seems like a good idea at first but it gets way too out of hand and people are getting "failed" for everything...and it creates a totally different atmosphere on the forums...people get too cautious of what they post, with fear of being "failed"...so much too often do I see posts that start with "sorry if this is a repost, but..." or "i tried to search but came up with nothing.."

must say...overall..it's a lot better here on 6GC

ive been on the club rsx forums...quite a lot of profanity and pervertedness going on there..LOL. not dissing them, just saying that's what ive observed. rsx's are nice. but back on topic, when new members fail to use the search bar, please dont be a d*ck about it. just TRY to KINDLY say "Please use our search engine". instead of doing so rudely by implying that they're dumb, blind, or something..

we should have a LIKE button.

This post has been edited by sunwukongg: Feb 1, 2011 - 6:23 PM

Omg Andrew is posting.....

I cannot think of ONE long time member that bags on any noob for no reason just because they are new to this forum. If we say something to them bashing them it was:
A. Because they attempted to act superior to everyone else when in reality they are just like every other n00b(which everyone has been as joe stated).
B. They act as if this forum owes them something, as if they pay a fee.
C. Wont search for themselves and just want info spoon fed to them.After people have told them to search.

I may not agree with 6gc.nets "family policy" but blatantly cussing and spewing crap is completely different than telling someone why they are wrong and what they should do. 6gc is by FAR the best kept forum im on as far as post cleanliness, and that is mostly due to the awesome moderator(AND ADMINISTRATOR ) staff that we have on this site.


I do agree that some new members completely disrespect OG members and therefor the members immediately just hate all noobs forever or just up and leave the site(it happens). I think a good solution is when registering, there should be a page that they are forced to read with just some of the basic rules, search function, respect, ect. That would get rid of like 40% of noob posts.

Nicely said. All in all to those who bash lay off and to everyone here on 6gc.net just have fun n welcome ur new fellow 6gcer's, That's all.

This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Feb 1, 2011 - 6:38 PM

what are these fights u guys talkin about? i dont see them! this site is awesome, and it is SURPRISINGLY well kept and flame less... i am planning on writing some of the magazines about this site, and the cars on it, as im getting tired of no celicas being featured. this site is a nice medium and isnt too brainy like some sites but you wont have to worry about the fights like some random civic/honda site.

cheers to the mods and christian!

and i cant belive andrew isnt a part of the goonery!

OMG, easternpiro1 wussup dude, long time no talk bro. Shoulda known ud be in here, lol

yeah, just take it outside of the forums cough*grif......cha...*cough.

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I'm so there.

I'll even chime in and (like anytime i post) make this thread epic
jp

Honnestly my thoughts:

1- This is a repost. This pops up ever 6-8 months. Within the next 1-2 months there will be the ever so famous "the modd's are mean to me" thread too.

1a- It does always give a solid reminder to everyone though. And usualy lasts up untill about a month before the next one.

2- As always with these "NewGen/OldGen" threads, I agree with OP, and all posts so far (including the "what's up" to piro, and Andrew's post- lol) Andrew got the nail on the head with his point "C". The new guys who get burned to the point of leaving are the ones that join and start building a reputation bassed on things they "intend" to do. (GT4Solder's epic 2 post's before being banned comes to mind...) witch he's settled down and done some learnin and is okay in my book now. So no offense by that example. it's just a preimum example.

2a- It's never a good idea to build a reputation on what you havene't done.
2b- As a senior member, looking at a fresh face, How do you know they haven't actualy done it before? (i had that problem, I ran several swaps/boost projects with a different car community before getting a celica and finding my way here. And was a noob here. Although i humbly asked for information and lived in the search for a few months before talking anything)
2c- And that's how i justify myself when i tell people to search. I've done it. It's helped.

3- Search feature really is your friend. Because not only do you learn the answer to your question, You learn the other questions you should have been asking. AND their answers. (EX: Someone totaly new to boost would ask "what injectors to use" and learn that he also needs a fuel pump. Witch pump? Oh a Walbro225lhp, Gotit)

4- I do endorse the non flame thing. Unless you're not listening. Then i believe you deserve what you get. (I use the teq. on all my trainee's at work. I cannot teach you what you refuse to learn)

5- and most importantly we are a community. Each member has a different face, personality, taste, style, likes and dislikes. That should absolutely be respected at all times. From Ricer to Restorer. (be it a 4 Ft razor wing with vertical doors, or removing a stock wing and replacing aftermarket with the origonal yellow side markers) It's our differences that make us unique. And or difference of understanding as a community that makes us unique aginst all other fourms.

With that said; NO is still haven't learned to spell.

eh, old/new..everyone does it. it's the internet....if you dont like something just ignore it. that's what i usually do. not everyone will get along or like eachother. my sole purpose is to just come learn about 6g celicas and make friends. oh well, have fun!

Being a semi new guy (almost a year now) I've learned the rules of the forum, and what to do and what not to do. Just as I am in real life, I sit back and watch whatever one else posts and then I post if I can't find something at all (after searching). I've learned to use the search button because it can be very helpful and I've learned to respect the members on here. I don't question the OG's because I know that they know what they're talking about. Sure I may act a dumb question or remark here or there, but don't we all?
I absolutely love this forum, and if you learn your stuff and respect the members on here, you'll get respect in the end.

dang mkernz22 you have 4 blue boxes under your name and you've been here less than a year. d a m n how many posts do you have haha. But yes I know what you mean I just had some member pm about the same stuff your talking about lil joe. It's not too bad here since most of the site is from the age group 20 and above so that's why it hasn't been to bad lately.

I couldn't agree with you more mkernz22 the member that pm'ed me as well gave me crap because I posted something accidently but never harmed anybody else.

I agree with you Joe. i know ive laid into some noobs before. lately ive only blown up on one newb and it was for disrespecting the site and the other members by not listening when we are tryin to help and insulting the 6gc itself. that to me is grounds for a rant. i may have a short fuse but i respect noobs. because like you said we were all once one but only until i feel disrespected by a newb. any long time member i have a problem with i take to PM's as it properly should be.

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yeahhh... haha
I posted a lot a while back, but I've started to slow down now. When your new you tend to comment alot on other posts and create some new ones.

I personally thought the forum to be a very organized and civilized place...Till the rota thread turned into catfight but you know what they say about fighting on the internet...

Reminds me of the fight between Turbophil and the old dude with the wicked exige...

This post has been edited by Neon90424: Feb 1, 2011 - 11:17 PM

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whats up joe! lol yeah, i like to get the gossip once in a while

even though i havent seen any of these threads, i strongly agree with the old saying:
"if you dont have nothin nice to say, dont say it at all" unless its mrgrape! lol

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mrgrape!!!!! hahaha i forgot about that guy

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Feb 2, 2011 - 2:30 AM

Just to chime in here and there...but.... aside from what i my info might say, i have been on this site since 2005/2006, and this place is a very helpful site. And i could continue to say more of what others have said, yet i guess ill be the rain on the parade and say that the one drawback and downside to this site is....... The lack of "fluid" information. And what i am specifically targetting with this, is the stickies.

Honestly the one main thing that starts many of that "spats" btwn new-comers/the in-experianced, and the forum-gurus/knowledgable ppl is the lack of posted or well known info.

And what i mean, is that while there are many stickies, and there can never be enough to cover every little topic that is continually brought up on this site, there are still tons of info that could be...stickied.

I mean really, its great that people search, but is it really necessary to always have to "search" for the ECU pinout of the 2nd or 3rd gen 3sgte? Much less make a post about it. WHY ISNT THIS TYPE OF INFO EASILY AND READILY AVAILABLE FOR THOSE SEEKING IT?

Anywho, this is just my observation. There is a serious lack of readily available info on this site. Other than that, yes this is a great site. Yes the people here are awesome to chat with, and share a positive appreciation of one another. And no there isnt the whole a-holish attitude that you see on other sites.

Yet, back to my opinion....there is a lack of "should be" known info easily and readily available. Maybe it would help to STEM the amount of (relatively few) conflicts that could be resolved by just lookin at the top of the page a person is veiwing.

And also i know that if an asshole decides to run his mouth there really isnt much that can be said or done about that aside from an insta-ban??

I'm new here, and i have not received a warmer welcome. I used to have a DSM, and when i joined the forums for that, all i got was ridicule and criticism. I'll be the first to admit, I know jack about working on cars. That's why I turn to forums, and that's what 6gc helps me with most. I enjoy the friendly opinions that go against mine, gives me perspective. (I think I still like my panda idea, despite everyone telling me no...lol)

This forum is kept clean, I'm happy i found it, and wont leave. It's because of threads like this that people watch what they say.

I feel most of us (senior members) here at 6gc have an odd sense of humor sometimes because of our history of dealing with each other on this forum over the past several years and for people who are newer they might not understand it and take offense. some of us like myself enjoy busting peoples balls and getting it back in return. just all in good fun. this is by far the best kept forum ive ever been on and is full of easy accessible information. My advice for newer members that got a few jokes thrown there way about their car or anything i would say to take it with a grain of salt. not only are we 6gc enthusiasts but we are car enthusiast.

I do agree that more information could be stickied. Not so much stickied, there really isn't a need for more threads. We should just add info to the threads. I'm a member on my.IS as well as here, but I prefer this site by and far. The only advantage that my.IS has over 6gc is in the stickies themselves. Each how-to, DIY, and FAQ thread has part numbers. I wish we could edit our 6gc stickies to include part numbers every time a specific part is mentioned. Other than that, I'm good with 6gc how it is. We've all had our share of stupid threads and posts. It's part of being new and getting a feel for the forum. If you can't handle being told to search, and essentially learning how to help yourself, then there's probably a good reason you aren't still on the site. The ones that can handle being told to search learn to search, accept any help they're given, and stick around the site. And each member that does that makes the site a little bit better.

I do like the idea of the P/N thing, but I guess its going to depend on who writes the thread?
But on topic. I've noticed that some newer members have copped an attitude with some of the more senior guys. And vice versa, I try to stay out of that kind of stuff, although it happens that I get sucked into something stupid every now and then.

This post has been edited by Spider77: Feb 3, 2011 - 8:55 PM

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D-man, FTMFBBQW.
#1: 'nuff said. QFT.
#2a,b,c: again, QFT. thats a problem i have been guilty of myself, and have learned over the years to never assume that just because someone is new to the site, that they are new to automotive work, or celicas specificly.
#3: god, i wish i could get every single member to understand this.
#4: the no flaming thing is one of the cornerstones of this site, IMO. it makes everyone more confortable asking questions and starting discussions about things they otherwise may not for fear of being made fun of, or bashed.
#5: this is prolly the most important one, and somthing i personally take pride in being a part of. our diffrences is what brings us together, otherwise everyones car would look exactly the same, and what fun would that be?
while we encourage everyone to give theyre opinions, good or bad, we do insist that everyone be respectfull.
it pretty much comes down to this. if you cant say somthing nice, or consructive, without being rude, just dont post.
that said, after 8+ years here, i can honestly say without a doubt this is the BEST 6th gen celica resource on the 'net, and that aint changin anytime soon, thanks to all of you.
we all continue to push the community forward, and come up with new and exciting things to do to our cars to make them suit our personalitys and styles.
just remember guys, your no better or worse than the person who posts above or below you, no matter how long you been doing this, how much money you make, where your from, or where you've been.
we are all here to help each other, and THAT is what makes this site great.

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Excellence.