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nice diy skills mate thumbsup.gif

also glad to hear you have the suspension noise fixed

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Thanks Rusty. I am so glad the noise is gone! It's not just the noise though, the whole front end feels more solid now.

In other news, I think my car will be getting a colour change once the GT-Four front has been fitted...

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Prep work on the bonnet is going well. There were a few spots where the paint was so poor I had to go back to bare aluminium (especially at the front) but at least the bonnet itself is nice and straight.



The bumper is proving to be a real pain. Luckily it was cheap, but looking back now I should have waited for a better one to come up. Almost finished now though.



I'm undecided on whether or not to put the Toyota badge back on the front at this stage. I've filled in the holes, but they can be easily re-drilled if required.

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Still a lot of work to do, and it's not all going as planned, but I think you can see where things are heading...



I had to get the car back together prematurely because I needed to drive it today! The finished product should be much improved.

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Looks mean!

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Good work mate smile.gif
Looking forward to seein the finish product!

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Thanks guys. smile.gif

I haven't progressed past the original photo yet, so I'm still rocking the satin black front and red rear.

I'm still thinking about getting a new 86 when they come out next month. I'm torn between buying a new Hilux and keeping the Celica, or selling the Celica and just buying an 86.

PS. Still loving Beams power. I swear this engine keeps gaining power as times goes by! It's rather strange...

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I love updates to this thread!... even small ones. My .02, get the Hilux. I will likely fix up my old 86 S-10 4wd this summer when I finish my BEAMS. Little truck for hauling and towing stuff.... car for having fun while driving.

You and I both know you don't want a car payment wink.gif
exactly the way I see it (everyone hates car payments) laugh.gif

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Exactly why I'll never have a new car. tongue.gif Not to mention you lose your ass on them money wise, soon as you drive it off the lot it depreciates. That and you can't work on them.

Any who, awesome car!!!

This post has been edited by Box: Apr 30, 2012 - 10:32 PM

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Dont sell it frown.gif
Although I wouldnt mind a Beams tongue.gif

98 ST204 ZR - Black Beauty - Roaming the streets of Sydney73 TA22 LT - Tiffany Blue - Mint Classic Weekend Cruiser75 TA22 LT - Snow White - Mint Classic Weekend Cruiser77 RA28 LT - Flubber Green - Mint Classic Weekend Cruiser94 MX-5 NA8 Clubman - Red Racer - Looking for cornersWIP Project: 69 RT40 Corona, 2nd WIP Project: 66 RT40 1600s Corona86 Corona RT142 - Daily Driver6GC 4 Life Baby!!!
I'm thinking of selling this car now, so if anyone is interested please PM me.

I may consider selling some parts separately, but I won't ship anything so you'll have to collect from my place in Brisbane.

It's the end of an era for me! frown.gif

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sad news to hear, all the best with selling it

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Shame to see you sell it.
Very rare in Aus

98 ST204 ZR - Black Beauty - Roaming the streets of Sydney73 TA22 LT - Tiffany Blue - Mint Classic Weekend Cruiser75 TA22 LT - Snow White - Mint Classic Weekend Cruiser77 RA28 LT - Flubber Green - Mint Classic Weekend Cruiser94 MX-5 NA8 Clubman - Red Racer - Looking for cornersWIP Project: 69 RT40 Corona, 2nd WIP Project: 66 RT40 1600s Corona86 Corona RT142 - Daily Driver6GC 4 Life Baby!!!
It's too bad to see you selling it after all the work you've put into it. Hopefully the next owner takes as much care of it as you have.

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Thanks guys. I still love my Beams, but I want something newer/better/faster and there's just not enough room in the garage. I'm not trying too hard to sell it, but we'll see how it goes.

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After having some fun in the Celica over the Christmas break I've decided not to sell her.

I'm still keen to get back into track days, so that will be the focus for this year. I did a bit of research on the GT-Four wing to see if it actually provided any benefit on the track, and apparently it does provide some meaningful downforce at the speeds I'll be doing whilst racing, so I decided to get some CF raiser blocks which I fitted over the weekend:



I'm planning on doing some sessions both with and without the wing to see if the extra downforce through the corners is worth the extra drag on the straights. Both tracks I'll be racing at (Lakeside and Qld Raceway) have some fairly high speed corners, so I think there will be benefits to running the big wing.

Looking forward to getting back into it! smile.gif

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nice to see your keeping a hold of it
have fun on the track thumbsup.gif

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After getting everything done on my 2011 wishlist (and then doing very little in 2012) I've decided to put together a 2013 wishlist.

Here's goes...
  • GT-Four spoiler blocks (done)
  • GT-Four front end (fitted but still needs paint to finish)
  • Better seats (looking at Sparcos)
  • Rear swaybar
  • Light weight wheels
  • Get my coilovers and overall suspension properly tuned
  • SS braided brake lines (inspired by Rusty)
  • TRD quick shift (been looking for almost a year!)

That's about it. If I can get those things done this year the car should be more or less finished. We'll see how it goes... smile.gif

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This car still is one of my favourite on the forums, It's too bad you don't live nearby so we could have a VVT-i vs VTEC race haha.
I haven't done anything to the old girl lately, but she's still kicking along.

The rain does well to hide the imperfections in this pic...



Still loving the Beams. smile.gif

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Still need to catch up to check out the beams... Still jealous tongue.gif

Looking good... But needs the paint tongue.gif

By the way, Toyota still have one TRD Quickshifter in Sydney and one in Melbourne as far as I can tell. They were asking something silly for them though (I think it was like $550-650).

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QUOTE (S8S8 @ May 12, 2013 - 4:41 PM) *
>I haven't done anything to the old girl lately, but she's still kicking along.

The rain does well to hide the imperfections in this pic...



Still loving the Beams. smile.gif

Gonna look so sweet once all the panels are painted biggrin.gif

------------------------------| White '94 Celica | Bought 11/05/12 | Sold 12/05/15 |------------------------------------------------------------| White '02 N-Edition Caldina | Weekend Car |------------------------------
Shane,

I enjoyed the story of your Celica. I have been considering installing a Beams engine in my 90 Celica GT-S. I am in the USA so a couple of things will be different from your build. I was unhappy to hear you were disappointed with the power of your Beams engine at first. Now that you have had it for a while what do you think of the power output? Does the low end torque below 3,500 RPM suffer compared to the 5sfe? How is your fuel mileage? In the states we use OBD-II for diagnosis. I have heard our scan tools don't work with JDM ECM's. How do you pull trouble codes out of your Beams ECM?

Thank you for your help.
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QUOTE (Hydros27 @ May 25, 2013 - 10:18 AM) *
>Now that you have had it for a while what do you think of the power output? Does the low end torque below 3,500 RPM suffer compared to the 5sfe? How is your fuel mileage? In the states we use OBD-II for diagnosis. I have heard our scan tools don't work with JDM ECM's. How do you pull trouble codes out of your Beams ECM?

If I recall correctly, the 5th gen is a little lighter than the 6th gen so your car should be slightly quicker than a 6th gen with a BEAMS. The BEAMS feels almost identical to a 5S up until ~4,500 rpm then pulls hard to redline. I've gotten 34 mpg at 75 mph on the interstate. No US OBD scanner will read the Jap signals from the ECU. To pull the codes, you do it OBDI style. You take a paperclip or short piece of wire and ground the TC port in the Diagnostic box and count the CEL flashes.

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QUOTE (Hydros27 @ May 25, 2013 - 10:18 AM) *
>Now that you have had it for a while what do you think of the power output? Does the low end torque below 3,500 RPM suffer compared to the 5sfe? How is your fuel mileage? In the states we use OBD-II for diagnosis. I have heard our scan tools don't work with JDM ECM's. How do you pull trouble codes out of your Beams ECM?

If I recall correctly, the 5th gen is a little lighter than the 6th gen so your car should be slightly quicker than a 6th gen with a BEAMS. The BEAMS feels almost identical to a 5S up until ~4,500 rpm then pulls hard to redline. I've gotten 34 mpg at 75 mph on the interstate. No US OBD scanner will read the Jap signals from the ECU. To pull the codes, you do it OBDI style. You take a paperclip or short piece of wire and ground the TC port in the Diagnostic box and count the CEL flashes.



Thanks for the info. I have a couple more questions. Does the Beams use 2 O2 sensors, one in front of the cat and one behind, like an OBD-II car? Does it monitor the fuel tank pressure for the EVAP system? I am worried about trouble codes.

I see you are from Evansville. In 2009, the last time the Unlimited hydroplanes raced there, I got a chance to take a lap in the U-25. I wish they would bring that race back.
The BEAMS only uses one O2 sensor, which the ECU blatantly disregards. One member here had issues with his O2 sensor but mine won't even throw a CEL if I totally remove the sensor. The general consensus on the BEAMS Owners Group is that the sensor is useless for all intents and purposes. The computer couldn't care less about fuel tank pressure either. All in all, it's a very easy and low maintenance, albeit expensive, swap.

I wasn't living in Evansville when they had those races, but my sister told me about them. Apparently I missed out. tongue.gif

"Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us touse the search button!2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage.1998 Celica GT-BEAMSSwapped.2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium.2021 GMC Sierra AT4.
I've driven a couple n/a 3sge's and I think they lack torque downlow compared to a 5sfe but they love singing to redline unlike the 5sfe, Id love to drive a beams.
you need to sell the homo honda and get a 6gc again Josh!

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My Celi got hit by a bus last night!



It was the bus driver's fault so the insurance claim should go through smoothly.

New paint must be on the cards now! smile.gif

3SGE Beams VVT-i powered Celica