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Topic #78459 74 posts Started by presure2
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 24, 2011 - 10:37 AM) *
>found these on toyodiy

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1998_TOYO...BLMVZ_1501.html
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_1998_TOYO...BLMVZ_1105.html


12102A PAN SUB-ASSY, OIL, NO.2
12102-88460 3SG*..ST202, 205 1 $196.34

12121 PLATE, OIL PAN BAFFLE
12121-88461 3SG*..ST202, 205 1
12121-88463 3SGTE..ST205 1 $54.26

12101 PAN SUB-ASSY, OIL
12101-88480 3SGTE..ST205 1 $140.49

15708 NOZZLE, SUB-ASSY OIL, NO.1
15790-88460 3SG*..ST202, 205..CV, GT4, SS2, SS3 4 $18.10
(i dont know what this is)

15104 STRAINER SUB-ASSY, OIL
15104-88461 3SG*..ST202, 205..CV, GT4, SS2, SS3 1 $51.74

15101A SEAL (FOR CRANKSHAFT)
90311-42026 3SG*..ST202, 205..CV, GT4, SS2, SS3 1 $15.08

15100 PUMP ASSY, OIL
15100-88460 3SG*..ST202, 205 1 $149.12

part #'s arnt the problem, its finding someone who will actually sell you these parts new. besides, who wants to pay 300+ $ for an upper and lower oil pan..lol

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True but at least we have them documented now.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
I got another question, what are you going to use to run the engine?

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 25, 2011 - 10:01 AM) *
>I got another question, what are you going to use to run the engine?

Jim is planning on using the power FC.

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are you using the ST205 head? or just wire it so the PFC will run the car? i have alot of experience with the PFC and there are some very good tutorials in the FI section of newcelica.org.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Of course.
Dude, please read the thread, it clearly says in the build list 3rd gen head.
I am not tuning the car.
Jim is having it tuned by someone reputable near him.

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Dude! there is so much on this forum, i cant keep up, but yes i should have caught that

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 28, 2011 - 11:31 PM) *
>Dude! there is so much on this forum, i cant keep up, but yes i should have caught that


its been 2 pages.. lol rolleyes.gif

st205 powered ss3 coupe
i wasnt counting only this thread. there are alot of projects going on.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
back from the dead!!

this week i got a load of parts to finally start getting the ball rolling on jims motor.

weisco pistons, ACL race bearings, ARP studs, ATS headgasket ect all came in wednesday.

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then yesterday the porn came in.
custom exhaust and intake manifolds, both made by jeff @ racerx fabrication (www.racerxfabrication) and the precision 5857.
absolutley works of art.

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today i will go out and drill the holes for the oil feed, and the oil pan, and get ready to grind the back of the block for clearance for the AWD tranny.
then next week ill take the block down to the machine shop for machine work.
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Omg..... that's the best looking manifold I've ever seen for a celica

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QUOTE (freddy121389 @ Aug 27, 2011 - 9:42 AM) *
>Omg..... that's the best looking manifold I've ever seen for a celica

lol..im really super happy with it. the runners are tuned for jims desired powerband and all.
crazy part is this is a "lower end" exhaust manifold, price wise, compared to what jeff @ racerx fab. can do. his high end manifolds run 1400-1900$, use "burns stainless" double slip turbo collectors, 316 stainless ect..just the collector on one of those manifolds run ~ 500$ IIRC.
jim paid ~800 for the manifold, + coating.

we're planning to install a civic half rad to give us the clearance to run this setup in the alltrac. definetly will be a fun project with lots of fab work to come!

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QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 17, 2011 - 4:59 PM) *
>I wonder if the lack of oil cooler on the 2zz has anything to do with the fact that it has an aluminum block.

Old post, but the 2ZZ got a cooler down under and across both ponds for whatever reason. Not having one seems to make little difference unless you're tracking it hard.

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
That manifold gives me quite fuzzy feeling. Looking forward to more progress.

Also, *Wiseco.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Aug 28, 2011 - 7:55 PM

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
Very nice build =), I remember there was a guy on celispeed who was doing a build very similar

Maybe you can get some ideas=p
Here

This post has been edited by NYp8tBaller07: Aug 28, 2011 - 8:13 PM

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^^ nice link, looks like hes got some good wiring skills, that interior is gonna be pretty wild.
the motor build is a little less involved than this one will be, tho.

so this weekend, i went out to the garage, and drilled and tapped the holes for the upper oil pan, and the oil feed for the turbo.

a few pics of that.







placed the head on the block, to get an idea of what the turbo-manifold combo will look like.











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Yeah good work, thorough walkthrough for people to follow themselves. One of the experienced 3s workshops in Aus has built a few of these "big bore" 3/5s. I love the idea, he uses longer rods to get a better stroke to rod ratio, decent comp ratio (up to 9:1)Rev to 9+k rpm, with a suitably matched turbo, perfect street setup.

ST205 Group A Rallye GT-Four, #61 of 77............600hp GT3582rGRX133 Toyota Mark X 350s
Good work so far Manny smile.gif
Love it biggrin.gif
I'll be sending my car over to you so "Manny Can Pimp My Ride"

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QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Aug 31, 2011 - 8:04 PM) *
>Yeah good work, thorough walkthrough for people to follow themselves. One of the experienced 3s workshops in Aus has built a few of these "big bore" 3/5s. I love the idea, he uses longer rods to get a better stroke to rod ratio, decent comp ratio (up to 9:1)Rev to 9+k rpm, with a suitably matched turbo, perfect street setup.

thanks man, from the research we've done, this setup should be a real blast to drive under almost any circumstances.
it should have a good combination of grunt and top end.

ZR: i'd rather take the trip to AU and do it there!! laugh.gif
im hoping to have the block ready to go to the machine shop tuesday, and hopfully can start actually building things by next weekend!

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Manny, when you finish this build, please please PLEASE take a lot of video! this is just so amazing.

Kevin
This is going to be wild, cant wait to see it!

st205 powered ss3 coupe
Awesome work.

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
Awesome work Manny! How goes the progress? Love the pics!
this excites me.

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
not much to report yet, i ground down the back of the block to clearance for the AWD tranny, hoping to take the block over to the machine shop this week, then the real fun will start. smile.gif

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post lots of pics!!! tons of pics!!!!

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
manny, you are the man. I want to shake your hand one day in person. great build, great write up! I regret i couldnt get my hands on the oil cooler you needed from the 4th gen personally. were you able to give cam a shout to get it?

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
I talked to cam, but he said ya didn't have one. No biggie, imma just weld up what I need

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QUOTE (presure2 @ Oct 12, 2011 - 1:21 PM) *
>I talked to cam, but he said ya didn't have one. No biggie, imma just weld up what I need


cool! now for my next question, with all the power going to the wheels, whats the percentage of rear to front? ive always wondered that about the AWD celica line. can you manipulate how much power goes to which wheels? (i imagine so with the engine management youre using?)

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.