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Topic #78935 14 posts Started by timdog1720
I have a 5SFE engine auto tranny..... i'm trying to go to a 3sgte manual swap.

First problem!
1- I cant find an exact breakdown or at least a good one on (how to) do the swap.
2- do you guys know where i can find a pretty kewl breakdown of the wire harness conversion ( i understand its tedious) but i want to do it myself personally i don't think it would be that hard if u had a good schematic
3- answer this straight forward and not like a kid!!! ---- how good is the 5sfe Turbo compared to the 3sgte swap...is it worth it ( yea i know its a great engine but...) can i get pretty dam close with the 5sfe .. remember answer this one like an adult not telling me how its cooler cause its a better engine because thats where all the hype is...... but rather you to be honest you could do a turbo just as great.....but if it isn't nowhere near than kewl just be straight forward.


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Ther are a few guys that have done the 5SFTE and loved it. If you look up presure2's topic you find his build on the 5SFTE there are others that I just can't think of at the moment. But its pretty much what you want to do both are good engines.

Sorry to say I can't answer the other two questions.
Thanks for that honest answer... anyone want to add to that

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question 2&3: presure2's swap topic actually goes into detail on how to wire, and his opinion of 3sgte vs 5sfte.

u gotta READ the swap threads.
I also have a 5S-FTE and i love it. I also make a kit for the 5S-FTE. i have pics in all my threads.

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The auto trans cant hold the power of a 5sfTe. So if you plan to go that route, you would still need to convert to a manual.

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QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Apr 15, 2011 - 1:40 AM) *
>I have a 5SFE engine auto tranny..... i'm trying to go to a 3sgte manual swap.

First problem!
1- I cant find an exact breakdown or at least a good one on (how to) do the swap.
2- do you guys know where i can find a pretty kewl breakdown of the wire harness conversion ( i understand its tedious) but i want to do it myself personally i don't think it would be that hard if u had a good schematic
3- answer this straight forward and not like a kid!!! ---- how good is the 5sfe Turbo compared to the 3sgte swap...is it worth it ( yea i know its a great engine but...) can i get pretty dam close with the 5sfe .. remember answer this one like an adult not telling me how its cooler cause its a better engine because thats where all the hype is...... but rather you to be honest you could do a turbo just as great.....but if it isn't nowhere near than kewl just be straight forward.


Thanks Guys appreciate the feed back.we are all family here ....one....
ATS RACING uses the 5sfe block with one of there kits that makes like 700hp but i would go with the 3rd gen head and a 5sfe transmission s54 ..... but if u ask me i think it will be cheaper to just get a 3rd gen and u would get more power anddd a stronger block

This post has been edited by brenton1919: May 8, 2011 - 6:14 PM
3rd gen...what bro?

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QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Apr 19, 2011 - 9:52 PM) *
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QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Apr 15, 2011 - 1:40 AM) *
>I have a 5SFE engine auto tranny..... i'm trying to go to a 3sgte manual swap.

First problem!
1- I cant find an exact breakdown or at least a good one on (how to) do the swap.
2- do you guys know where i can find a pretty kewl breakdown of the wire harness conversion ( i understand its tedious) but i want to do it myself personally i don't think it would be that hard if u had a good schematic
3- answer this straight forward and not like a kid!!! ---- how good is the 5sfe Turbo compared to the 3sgte swap...is it worth it ( yea i know its a great engine but...) can i get pretty dam close with the 5sfe .. remember answer this one like an adult not telling me how its cooler cause its a better engine because thats where all the hype is...... but rather you to be honest you could do a turbo just as great.....but if it isn't nowhere near than kewl just be straight forward.


Thanks Guys appreciate the feed back.we are all family here ....one....
ATS RACING uses the 5sfe block with one of there kits that makes like 700hp you and uses i block but i would go with the 3rd gen head and a 5sfe transmission s54 ..... but if u ask me i think it will be cheaper to just get a 3rd gen and u would get more power anddd a stronger block


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QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 19, 2011 - 5:19 PM) *
>The auto trans cant hold the power of a 5sfTe. So if you plan to go that route, you would still need to convert to a manual.


depends on how much power you want, theres a guy on here that has a 3sgte with an auto tranny and it holds up fine

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ok sounds kewl

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QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Apr 20, 2011 - 11:41 PM) *
>3rd gen...what bro?

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QUOTE (brenton1919 @ Apr 19, 2011 - 9:52 PM) *
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QUOTE (timdog1720 @ Apr 15, 2011 - 1:40 AM) *
>I have a 5SFE engine auto tranny..... i'm trying to go to a 3sgte manual swap.

First problem!
1- I cant find an exact breakdown or at least a good one on (how to) do the swap.
2- do you guys know where i can find a pretty kewl breakdown of the wire harness conversion ( i understand its tedious) but i want to do it myself personally i don't think it would be that hard if u had a good schematic
3- answer this straight forward and not like a kid!!! ---- how good is the 5sfe Turbo compared to the 3sgte swap...is it worth it ( yea i know its a great engine but...) can i get pretty dam close with the 5sfe .. remember answer this one like an adult not telling me how its cooler cause its a better engine because thats where all the hype is...... but rather you to be honest you could do a turbo just as great.....but if it isn't nowhere near than kewl just be straight forward.


Thanks Guys appreciate the feed back.we are all family here ....one....
ATS RACING uses the 5sfe block with one of there kits that makes like 700hp you and uses i block but i would go with the 3rd gen head and a 5sfe transmission s54 ..... but if u ask me i think it will be cheaper to just get a 3rd gen and u would get more power anddd a stronger block

3rd gen 3sgte st205

This post has been edited by brenton1919: Apr 24, 2011 - 12:00 AM
1 Hey guys i'm running into some problems please help..... i have an MR2 E153 Tranny lsd
its going into my 94 celica which shifter cables do i buy? the sticky's are confusing all different answers no definitive one.

2 also can i just use the mounts from my old engine? again 94 6G celica

3 and last but not least the correct answer on the shafts .... which one to buy guys



Please help if yo say to go to the sticky then help out and highlight exactly which one and what answer in there is the best and correct one


Thanks Guys

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answers.

0. search and read the stickies

1. ST205 shift cables for any E series tranny

2. No. u were auto. the three trans mouts are diff. u need an ST205 rear mount, GT front and drivers mount

3. MR2 Turbo Inners w/ lsd, ST185 outters. possbly a spacer, depending on ur setup

This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Jul 30, 2011 - 8:40 PM

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