hi does anyone if metal exhaust manifold gasket is available for the gen3 3sge
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i dont know if ist metal lol
its look like it is....oups sorry, i didnt notice for 3SGE, that one is for 3sgte,,
,,,sorry
This post has been edited by Needles: May 7, 2011 - 12:16 PM
I know that the factory 3SGTE exhaust manifold gasket is a 3 layer metal gasket. It should have the same stud pattern as the 3SGE.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
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part: 17173-88581 that one cannot work the gen 3 3sge has bigger ports and the lug pattern is different.
QUOTE (korban @ May 7, 2011 - 7:16 PM) 
>I know that the factory 3SGTE exhaust manifold gasket is a 3 layer metal gasket. It should have the same stud pattern as the 3SGE.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581 that one cannot work the gen 3 3sge has bigger ports and the lug pattern is different.
2nd gen 3SGE has same stud pattern as 2nd gen 3SGTE
3rd gen 3SGE has same stud pattern as 3rd gen 3SGTE
so if yours is 3rd gen, then...........
3rd gen 3SGE has same stud pattern as 3rd gen 3SGTE
so if yours is 3rd gen, then...........
left st185-------3sgte 2nd gen
right st205------3sgte 3nd gen
right st205------3sgte 3nd gen
The gasket part numbers are different 3s-ge to 3s-gte, and probably different port spacing.
Needles: the turbine flange on the right is a CT26/ST185 flange, the downpipe on the left doesn't look like it fits any Celica or MR2 at all.
Needles: the turbine flange on the right is a CT26/ST185 flange, the downpipe on the left doesn't look like it fits any Celica or MR2 at all.
Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
This is the back of a CT26/ST185 turbo
an ST205/CT20B flange goes on the same except some needs to be grinded where I put the red mark to the left on the flange so the wastegate doesnt get stuck, and theres a 7th hole for an extra stud which the 205/20b uses that the 185/26 does not.
This post has been edited by delusionz: May 8, 2011 - 9:57 PM
an ST205/CT20B flange goes on the same except some needs to be grinded where I put the red mark to the left on the flange so the wastegate doesnt get stuck, and theres a 7th hole for an extra stud which the 205/20b uses that the 185/26 does not.
This post has been edited by delusionz: May 8, 2011 - 9:57 PM
Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
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That part is for a Gen3 3SGTE (ST205) which is the same lug pattern as the 3SGE?
Like this:
You're after an exhaust manifold gasket right? Goes between manifold and head?
Why is everyone showing turbo flanges?
QUOTE (gtprominient @ May 7, 2011 - 10:23 PM)
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part: 17173-88581 that one cannot work the gen 3 3sge has bigger ports and the lug pattern is different.
QUOTE (korban @ May 7, 2011 - 7:16 PM)
>I know that the factory 3SGTE exhaust manifold gasket is a 3 layer metal gasket. It should have the same stud pattern as the 3SGE.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581 that one cannot work the gen 3 3sge has bigger ports and the lug pattern is different.
That part is for a Gen3 3SGTE (ST205) which is the same lug pattern as the 3SGE?
Like this:
You're after an exhaust manifold gasket right? Goes between manifold and head?
Why is everyone showing turbo flanges?
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yes the manifold and head but i am tellin you that my port holes are wider and in a differ in position where it meets the head.i bougth a cast iron and it could not fit and bougth one of tubular rev 3mani and it had the same port holes like thecast iron, had to cut the plate off the 3sge mani curve the pipes and weld it back on.
i think i have a spare asbestos gasket lying around i will try taking aic to show what it looks like
QUOTE (korban @ May 9, 2011 - 1:09 AM)
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That part is for a Gen3 3SGTE (ST205) which is the same lug pattern as the 3SGE?
Like this:
You're after an exhaust manifold gasket right? Goes between manifold and head?
Why is everyone showing turbo flanges?[code][/code]
QUOTE (gtprominient @ May 7, 2011 - 10:23 PM)
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part: 17173-88581 that one cannot work the gen 3 3sge has bigger ports and the lug pattern is different.
QUOTE (korban @ May 7, 2011 - 7:16 PM)
>I know that the factory 3SGTE exhaust manifold gasket is a 3 layer metal gasket. It should have the same stud pattern as the 3SGE.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581
That one needles is holding is the turbo exhaust gasket, and looks like a standard pressed/stamped one out of generic gasket paper.
part: 17173-88581 that one cannot work the gen 3 3sge has bigger ports and the lug pattern is different.
That part is for a Gen3 3SGTE (ST205) which is the same lug pattern as the 3SGE?
Like this:
You're after an exhaust manifold gasket right? Goes between manifold and head?
Why is everyone showing turbo flanges?[code][/code]
yes the manifold and head but i am tellin you that my port holes are wider and in a differ in position where it meets the head.i bougth a cast iron and it could not fit and bougth one of tubular rev 3mani and it had the same port holes like thecast iron, had to cut the plate off the 3sge mani curve the pipes and weld it back on.
i think i have a spare asbestos gasket lying around i will try taking aic to show what it looks like
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QUOTE (delusionz @ May 8, 2011 - 10:45 PM)
>The gasket part numbers are different 3s-ge to 3s-gte, and probably different port spacing.
this exactly what i am saying but can the ge be had in metal because mine is in asbestos and it is showing signs of blowing
Needles: the turbine flange on the right is a CT26/ST185 flange, the downpipe on the left doesn't look like it fits any Celica or MR2 at all.
this exactly what i am saying but can the ge be had in metal because mine is in asbestos and it is showing signs of blowing
Needles: the turbine flange on the right is a CT26/ST185 flange, the downpipe on the left doesn't look like it fits any Celica or MR2 at all.
Does it look more like one of these?
do u have a flange like korban? make a gasket 
Mike W1996 Toyota Celica ST205 GT-FOURGT2860RS turbine, TiAL mvr44, JE 86.5φ piston, Clutchmasters FX400, APEX P-FC269awhp / 273ft-lbs
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look like this
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QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 5:14 PM)
>do u have a flange like korban? make a gasket
look like this
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QUOTE (korban @ May 9, 2011 - 4:39 PM)
>Does it look more like one of these?
looks like the smaller one are those manifold plates
looks like the smaller one are those manifold plates
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QUOTE (delusionz @ May 9, 2011 - 5:14 PM)
>do u have a flange like korban? make a gasket
thinking about that, whats the best material to use
thinking about that, whats the best material to use
Those flanges I posted were gen2 in case it matched them, and it obviously doesn't. But it still looks the same as the metal gen3 gasket i'm holding, I could take measurements if you want?
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QUOTE (korban @ May 15, 2011 - 6:52 PM)
>Those flanges I posted were gen2 in case it matched them, and it obviously doesn't. But it still looks the same as the metal gen3 gasket i'm holding, I could take measurements if you want?
sorry for the delay in response was off the net for sometime. yes please take measurements
sorry for the delay in response was off the net for sometime. yes please take measurements
starting from the left, the distances between the centres of each pipe:
76mm, 96mm, 94mm
starting from left, the width of each port:
56.5mm, 50.6mm, 50.6mm, 50.6mm
76mm, 96mm, 94mm
starting from left, the width of each port:
56.5mm, 50.6mm, 50.6mm, 50.6mm
sorry for delay in responding i found a material that can make a gasket so i am gonna make one thanks guys 4 ur help