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my starter does not operate at all, no clic or nothing

- i change it and put it back my old one who worked 100% good before my swap
- nothing


so i tried to connect positive from tranny direct on positive battery fully loaded
aND jump one cable from there to selenoide on the tranny ..... and a small spark goes and no sound from the starter , after 1 or 2 seconde, i notice my wire begin to weld to the selenoide cable .... what the heck ? i mean, its not my wiring or something, the starter is good, i have all the juice i need,

so nothing but when i unplug the cable to selenoide switch ther eis resistance, the wire grip together lol

any idea ?

This post has been edited by Needles: May 10, 2011 - 2:56 PM
Positive on tranny???

You need a positive lead directly to the starter. The starter grounds itself through the tranny, so make sure there is a good ground lead onto the tranny

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QUOTE (nsxtypeR @ May 7, 2011 - 3:11 PM) *
>Positive on tranny???

You need a positive lead directly to the starter. The starter grounds itself through the tranny, so make sure there is a good ground lead onto the tranny

i mean the plug goes just lower the starter, on the tranny, but that ok, we talk about the same thing , here is picture just to show what i did,
simply trying to bypass the starter



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QUOTE (Needles @ May 7, 2011 - 12:39 PM) *
>my starter does not operate at all, no clic or nothing

- i change it and put it back my old one who worked 100% good before my swap
- nothing


so i tried to connect positive from tranny direct on positive battery fully loaded
aND jump one cable from there to selenoide on the tranny ..... and a small spark goes and no sound from the starter , after 1 or 2 seconde, i notice my wire begin to weld to the selenoide cable .... what the heck ? i mean, its not my wiring or something, the starter is good, i have all the juice i need,

so nothing but when i unplug the cable to selenoide switch ther eis resistance, the wire grip together lol

any idea ?
my starter is ran off of a switch. the hot side of the starter i cut the cable ran it inside to a switch, then ran a hot cable from the battery to the switch. it works like a dream and looks cool now, when i work on other people's cars and i want to bypass the problem what i do is the hot side of the starter, i take a cable and run it in the ignition. i get a test light and find the wire that only has power when the key is turned tap in to that wire and and your done. thats how i bypass when i have a problem
If you've jumped power straight to the starter and it has started to melt the wire...

a- you've shorted your jumper to ground somewhere before going through any resistance.
b- the starter is seized/has a short to ground internally.
c- your motor, or an accesory on the drive belt is seized (alt, ps, ac, etc). (not likely to be an accessory, but I have seen it happend on a few chevs in the past so I wont rule it out entirely)
i took out the starter and plug it direct and it start spinnig smile.gif
so im gonna plug it direct whit one switch and see what happen smile.gif

thanks for help

This post has been edited by Needles: May 9, 2011 - 9:48 AM
the starter is plug direct and spin , but freely, wont engage the flywheel....

now im installing the solenoid from my s54,

This post has been edited by Needles: May 9, 2011 - 12:10 PM
the car is cranking now woooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOO .....woOOOOOOOOOOO whit the key

need to fix the fuel pump relay now and it must start

This post has been edited by Needles: May 9, 2011 - 3:33 PM
just an update to say that my car is running good, i dindt try it on the road still need 1 axle to put in, but my wire is fine, that was not that hard. now im gonna take my time to finish fix it up , HEY ! i learned something finnally biggrin.gif


swap took 1 month and 1 week

mecanic took me 4 or 5 day the rest was gremlins...

This post has been edited by Needles: May 10, 2011 - 2:51 PM