>>>>hey hows it going all just bought a 94 celica 1.8l base model and am looking to purchase a 3sgte motor to build and swap eventually now. what are some tips or list of parts and things i will need ive heard about the motor mounts i can weld if i have to cut and move them but if there were pre made bolt on kit i would prefer but i love this car and plan on having it a long time and any one have a good place to find the engine or an avg price any tips the better i will take some pics tomorrow to show all what im working with. but i am finally part of the 6th gen crew now at least.>>>>
lookin to do 3sgte swap for a 94 celica 1.8 base 3dr - 6G Celicas Forums
Hey,
First off, there maybe a reason people haven't replied... because there are a few threads on how and what you'll need for the swap. I for one did this swap.
always use the search bar at the top and you'll find threads about it in the Forced Induction forums.
so in the future please try using that
I will help ya out though.
motor mounts depend on what Transmission you are wanting to put in the car. the GT 5S-FE Trans you need to drill a couple holes in the body and thats about it. the MR2 E153 needs more work for it to be installed (I don't know what sorry) the Celica 3S-GTE trans can't be used unless you plan on doing a huge conversion so AWD.
Assuming you go with the 5S-FE route, you need a few things for the transmission:
GT Axles
GT Shifter cables,
a clutch kit with a 3S clutch and a 5S pressure plate
GT Pass side mount.
for the Engine:
I suggest switching out the steering pump line/s that run to the linkage. at least pump to linkage. its a bitch otherwise and not worth it (I know)
you will need the GT(or GT4) reservoir for the steering fluid and the lines as well.
GT coolant lines (at least the radiator lines)
GT radiator.
Accel cable
and all the little gauges you want. mainly boost.
if you keep the water to air intercooler, the front radiator
water pump and lines (there are metal ones)
you will need to make or get the original pump rely.
Generally I think thats about it.
it all depends on what you want to do with it.
good luck and have a blast.
oh if you keep the Original hood and front, you will need to cut some of the hood frame if you keep the water to air intercooler. the hood will cut into the intercooler.
Kevin
This post has been edited by Soulend: Jul 24, 2011 - 7:01 PM
First off, there maybe a reason people haven't replied... because there are a few threads on how and what you'll need for the swap. I for one did this swap.
always use the search bar at the top and you'll find threads about it in the Forced Induction forums.
so in the future please try using that
I will help ya out though.
motor mounts depend on what Transmission you are wanting to put in the car. the GT 5S-FE Trans you need to drill a couple holes in the body and thats about it. the MR2 E153 needs more work for it to be installed (I don't know what sorry) the Celica 3S-GTE trans can't be used unless you plan on doing a huge conversion so AWD.
Assuming you go with the 5S-FE route, you need a few things for the transmission:
GT Axles
GT Shifter cables,
a clutch kit with a 3S clutch and a 5S pressure plate
GT Pass side mount.
for the Engine:
I suggest switching out the steering pump line/s that run to the linkage. at least pump to linkage. its a bitch otherwise and not worth it (I know)
you will need the GT(or GT4) reservoir for the steering fluid and the lines as well.
GT coolant lines (at least the radiator lines)
GT radiator.
Accel cable
and all the little gauges you want. mainly boost.
if you keep the water to air intercooler, the front radiator
water pump and lines (there are metal ones)
you will need to make or get the original pump rely.
Generally I think thats about it.
it all depends on what you want to do with it.
good luck and have a blast.
oh if you keep the Original hood and front, you will need to cut some of the hood frame if you keep the water to air intercooler. the hood will cut into the intercooler.
Kevin
This post has been edited by Soulend: Jul 24, 2011 - 7:01 PM
Pretty much everything Kevin said, but I have a little bit to add. I suggest, as would everyone who has done the swap, that you get a clip rather than a motor set. That way, you'll have most everything you need. You'll also need a new fuel pump to handle the added demand. A Walbro 255 seems to be the pump of choice. Otherwise, Kevin pretty much nailed it. Browse the forced induction forum and you'll find the answers to any question you have along the way.
"Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us touse the search button!2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage.1998 Celica GT-BEAMSSwapped.2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium.2021 GMC Sierra AT4.
err right I forgot that little important gem... yeah don't do what I did. save your money and do it right.
Kevin
Kevin
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thanks for all the help im new to the site and intermediate mechanically speaking but my dads a mechanic and i went to school for welding so were gonna do every thing our selves but im going to build the engine a little bit before i put it in and when i looked around some people would say that the 5sfe trans would burn out but others say its good if you did it and is working good than thats what i will do. and my last question is when buying the engine the 3rd gen 3ste is only jdm so will i have to rewire the the whole thing or is it pretty simple or should i just get the 2nd gen 3sgte. i love this car and what it can be and love seein bs civics that sound like **** i just wish the 6th gen gt four was released in the us.
>err right I forgot that little important gem... yeah don't do what I did. save your money and do it right.
Kevin
Kevin
thanks for all the help im new to the site and intermediate mechanically speaking but my dads a mechanic and i went to school for welding so were gonna do every thing our selves but im going to build the engine a little bit before i put it in and when i looked around some people would say that the 5sfe trans would burn out but others say its good if you did it and is working good than thats what i will do. and my last question is when buying the engine the 3rd gen 3ste is only jdm so will i have to rewire the the whole thing or is it pretty simple or should i just get the 2nd gen 3sgte. i love this car and what it can be and love seein bs civics that sound like **** i just wish the 6th gen gt four was released in the us.
Go with the 3rd gen 3S. The wiring is much simpler. You'll have to do some minor wire work but that is all discussed in detail in the Forced Induction forum. The S54 trans from the GT is generally accepted as being fine up to around 300 hp and after that, you should use the E153 trans from an MR2 or Camry/Solara. The S54 will have a little more torque steer unless you install a limited slip diff.
"Employ your time in improving yourself by other men's writings, so that you shall gain easily what others labored hard for." -Socrates. Even Socrates told us touse the search button!2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage.1998 Celica GT-BEAMSSwapped.2022 4Runner TRD Off Road Prenium.2021 GMC Sierra AT4.
Thank you so much for the post. It's really useful.
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