Ted95

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I was wondering if anyone has used Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec tires before and if so had an thoughts on them. The surveys on them seem to be great as well as the reviews, just wondering what you guys thought. Im looking to get 225/50/16 for my 7th gen wheels. They seem like they would bite well for my 3s.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...romCompare1=yes



This post has been edited by Ted95: Apr 8, 2012 - 10:34 AM

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SwissFerdi

#2

The Miata world swears by these.

From Tire Rack, the specs look better than my tires, which offer enough cornering traction.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Apr 8, 2012 - 11:10 AM

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hellsyphon

#3

Fantastic track ready tire. The amount of traction it provides might be overkill for a daily driver imho unless you're making a ridiculous amount of power.

Pros:
Excellent dry/wet performance
Quiet when new
Durable if on a DD car. Mine have ~50,000 miles on them and still has plenty of tread left

Cons:
Slight drop in gas mileage ~1-2mpg
Become noisier/drone as the tread wears down (You can hear them if the radio is off at highway speeds, but road noise usually drowns it out. I don't find it to be intrusive at all)

Ted95

#4

cool thanks for the input guys. im trying to find a tire that will bite and these seem to be one of the better options. i can probably live with a slight mpg loss for great traction.

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bloodMoney

#5

I had a set of these on mine at the celicatech dragon run this year... I loved them.

A stock 6g will be pressed to break these tires loose.

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BonzaiCelica

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how is it possible to get50,000 miles on a 200utg rated tire, that's an extreme performance summer tire? I have a pair of yoko s drive. I'll probably get 15,000 miles out of them with almost no tread left.

I've had 225/50R16 toyo proxes 4 on tanabe lowering springs. They rubbed the front inside of the wheel wells. nothing biggy but just saying. It would be nice if a company made 225/45R16 tires. Best fitting tires for the 7th gen (6.5 inch wide wheel) is a 205/55R16

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Ted95

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 8, 2012 - 4:20 PM)

>how is it possible to get50,000 miles on a 200utg rated tire, that's an extreme performance summer tire? I have a pair of yoko s drive. I'll probably get 15,000 miles out of them with almost no tread left.

I've had 225/50R16 toyo proxes 4 on tanabe lowering springs. They rubbed the front inside of the wheel wells. nothing biggy but just saying. It would be nice if a company made 225/45R16 tires. Best fitting tires for the 7th gen (6.5 inch wide wheel) is a 205/55R16

i wanted to go with a wider tire so i can put the power down. i ran Toyo Proxes4 last summer 205/55/R16 and got zip for traction. i know that the 3sgte setup with fwd is basically useless anyway but i was hoping going with a 225 tire would help the cause.

i agree that a 225/45/R16 would be a great tire of choice, however not possible at the moment lol.

how bad did the tires rub on the inner well? maybe i should go with a 215 instead.. im ordering tires soon so any tips would be helpful.. my other tire of choice would be BFGs KDW2s

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BonzaiCelica

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if your going with such a sticky tire get the new Falken Azenis FT-615K or Kumho Tires Ecsta XS KU-36 in 215/45R16 (are meant to fit 7 inch wide wheels), or yes the 225/45R16 BFGoodrich, but again these are mean to fit 7.5 inch wide wheels. You can go for some Toyo T1R 225/40R16 tires (don't know the tire width fitment??)... so its up to you.

>>>>FRONT DRIVE SIDE WHEEL, these wheels are 16 x 7 with +42 offset>>>>

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Tigawoods

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They are fantastic tires. Plain fantastic.
Superb for the track and the street but they wear out on the street fast.

I would like to try the Bridgestone Re-11's which are around the same class as the Z1's but their price is quite a bit more.
I believe that you are paying for less tread wear.

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Ted95

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thats a bit disapointing with that tire rub, id rather not have the tires rub the inner part even just that little bit. i didnt want to go to a 45 series tire on the account that i would have more of a wheel gap with my eibach springs.. this is probably a stupid and obvious question but will the 225s not fit on the 7th gen wheel since its a 6.5" rim? i thought that it would still fit in for what ever reason..

i dont want 205s.. might need to get new wheels.. fml lol

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SwissFerdi

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I highly doubt 225 will fit, I'm running them on a 7" wide tire and they're a bit too bulgey, it'd certainly be worse with an inch less of wheel to sit on.

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Ted95

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 8, 2012 - 9:32 PM)

>I highly doubt 225 will fit, I'm running them on a 7" wide tire and they're a bit too bulgey, it'd certainly be worse with an inch less of wheel to sit on.

makes sense, ill have to find a 215 tire.. or get new wheels

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BonzaiCelica

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 8, 2012 - 9:40 PM)

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 8, 2012 - 9:32 PM)

>I highly doubt 225 will fit, I'm running them on a 7" wide tire and they're a bit too bulgey, it'd certainly be worse with an inch less of wheel to sit on.

makes sense, ill have to find a 215 tire.. or get new wheels

usually better to get a 17 inch tire with a 3sgte swap less squirming around with a 17...

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Ted95

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 8, 2012 - 9:50 PM)

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 8, 2012 - 9:40 PM)

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 8, 2012 - 9:32 PM)

>I highly doubt 225 will fit, I'm running them on a 7" wide tire and they're a bit too bulgey, it'd certainly be worse with an inch less of wheel to sit on.

makes sense, ill have to find a 215 tire.. or get new wheels

usually better to get a 17 inch tire with a 3sgte swap less squirming around with a 17...

thats what i was telling myself yesterday that i need 17s, funds holding me back at the moment. probably have to settle for 205s for this season.

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trdproven

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 9, 2012 - 11:40 AM)

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 8, 2012 - 9:32 PM)

>I highly doubt 225 will fit, I'm running them on a 7" wide tire and they're a bit too bulgey, it'd certainly be worse with an inch less of wheel to sit on.

makes sense, ill have to find a 215 tire.. or get new wheels

why dont you just get the stock tire size 205/50/16?

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Ted95

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ May 9, 2012 - 11:40 AM)

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ May 8, 2012 - 9:32 PM)

>I highly doubt 225 will fit, I'm running them on a 7" wide tire and they're a bit too bulgey, it'd certainly be worse with an inch less of wheel to sit on.

makes sense, ill have to find a 215 tire.. or get new wheels

why dont you just get the stock tire size 205/50/16?

i wanted a bigger foot print to help with traction, but im running GTS wheels and the rim is to narrow for 225s

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Rusty

#17

I'm using Toyo Proxes T1R 225/45/R16, so yes a company makes them in that size. never had rubbing issues...

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bloodMoney

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Just a cautionary note; the Z1's do run wide. So if you pick up a set of 215 series tires, they'll fit more like 225s.

Something else to keep in mind while you are doing your comparisons.

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Ted95

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so in that case im going to get the Z1's in 205/55/16 since they will be more like a 215 then.

ive really considered the BFG kdw2 as well, ive always heard great things about these tires as there wear time is a little better.

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Stambo

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I liked my azenis because they were inside outside tires and i could actually rotate them and get some extra life outta them.

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Ted95

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QUOTE (Stambo @ May 10, 2012 - 12:22 AM)

>I liked my azenis because they were inside outside tires and i could actually rotate them and get some extra life outta them.

my buddy was running those on his Si and liked them, just weighing my options right now. thinking about trying the Z1's out in a 205/55/R16 and will fit more like 215s since they run wide. the 55 fills up my wheel well enough and doesnt look too big with the gts wheels.

btw have been looking into possibly getting Xxr 527's 17x8.25 for next season

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qatar11

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In the world of crapcan racing its almost a 50/50 split between Direzza and Azenis if you are team putting in a serious effort to win. "Alledgedly" they use the same rubber compound so they are more similar than not. We happened to run Azenis on the stock 15" wheel so the tire price is still reasonable ($110 - $120) which is good because we will run through lotsa tire.

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Ted95

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 8, 2012 - 5:30 PM)

>if your going with such a sticky tire get the new Falken Azenis FT-615K or Kumho Tires Ecsta XS KU-36 in 215/45R16 (are meant to fit 7 inch wide wheels), or yes the 225/45R16 BFGoodrich, but again these are mean to fit 7.5 inch wide wheels. You can go for some Toyo T1R 225/40R16 tires (don't know the tire width fitment??)... so its up to you.

>>>>FRONT DRIVE SIDE WHEEL, these wheels are 16 x 7 with +42 offset>>>>

I can get the Z1's in 225/50/16 to fit the gts 16x6.5 wheel, I wonder if a spacer or the fact that the wheel is narrower will help with the tire rub.

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