aaronc222

#31

Must've skipped over this thread when it happened. This is the best news I've heard in a long time. I'll do the rear conversion first, then get my suspension(looking at either Tein SS or JIC), then get 4 piston calipers for the front. By then it will be time for a new engine(takes me forever to save any amount of money between car parts, computer parts, guitar strings/pickups/amp tubes, PS2 games, credit card bill...).

ed: Just checked car-parts.com. Both calipers with mildly used rotors(10-20k, decent enough to had turned and use for a while) can be had for as little as $200.

This post has been edited by aaronc222: Feb 5, 2004 - 2:47 AM

jgreening

#32

Has anyone done the 7th gen front brake conversion yet? Spedtoe? I am looking for confirmation before I shell out the cash.

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SpedToe169

#33

You have the confirmation....They fit. I had them right up against each other in the junkyard. I'm not really sure how much better they are. They're a little bigger, but not much. The real ticket would be those rotors with some other 'real' caliper. The stock type ones with one piston flex waaay too much to be very good.

snadman

#34

I'm dumb

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Hym3n

#35

Toyota Heaven all the way! That was my first experience at a salvage yard, went there just the other day. The guy running it was kinda rude to me as I came in (mostly because I was really confused about exactly what I was suppposed to do, and couldn't explain the dash pieces I needed), but after looking around and discovering some eight-odd 6gc's, I was ecstatic. They had just got one in at the front from the looks of things too, still had the headlights lol.. the others were just mangled.

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madmods

#36

Ok here are some questions? You said the caliper mounts are the same. I take it you mean the space between the 2 mounting bolts? Right? If the disc is bigger then the 6th gens, the distance from the caliper to the disc is going to be off on the 6th gen unless you make some spacers if you use the 7th gens discs. I dont want to confuse anybody here, but the mounts are going to be higher up for the 7th gens because of the bigger discs. That dont mean you can't bolt up 7th gens aftermarket calipers to the 6th gens mounts. Anybody know what I mean?

phat94celi

#37

What he was saying, is that you can put the 7th gen rotor on the 6th gen hub. Then mount the 7th gen caliper in the exact spot the 6th gen caliper was mounted. Its a direct swap. The rotor would be larger but you are using the 7th gen mount and caliper as well so there wouldn't be any problems.

madmods

#38

I dont understand what you mean by "your using the 7th gen mount" Are you talking about the torque plate the caliper mounts on? So let me know if I got this right,
(1) The 7th gen torque plate mounts to the 6th gen brake assy
(2) The 7th gen calipers mount to the 7th gen torque plates
(3) the 7th gen rotor mounts right in to the hub

My problem with the set-up, and Im trying to be a a-hole and honestly I have not been able to take a personal look st the brakes yet due to time restraints and fixing a bunch of window/electrical problems with this celica I just bought(I love it though). But back to the subject the 6th gen has smaller rotors, so the 6th gen caliper is mounted down closer to the rotor. If you put a bigger rotor(7th gen) your going to hit the 6th gen caliper. Now i dont know if the 7th gen caliper has the necessary room built into it or a different torque plate. I personally would like to do this swap because Im a typically late and hard braker. So do I got it right yet...please help if I dont! >>

Chrobis

#39

I have a question also, if you ordered, say the brembo big brake kit, would you need any other pieces off of a 7th gen, because the BBK comes with the pistons and rotors right?

SpedToe169

#40

Ok, let me clear this up. If you get the 7th gen rotors, you must use the 7th gen calipers (and caliper hangars, what you're calling torque plates i guess). You CANNOT use the 7th gen rotors with the 6th gen calipers.

Defgeph

#41

you need 16 inch wheels or bigger for the big brake kits

defgeph

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oOoHuY

#42

io was woundering how i would do the rear drum brake conv... what do i need to make them brakes thanks

SpedToe169

#43

Step 1: Do a search.

edo17982

#44

-SpedToe169+Apr 28, 2004 - 2:00 AM

Jeremy1210

#45

I do not think you can. The 7th gen rotors are bigger which mean the pads are bigger... You can try it, but I don't think some of the pad(7th) will be on the rotor.

celicaracer18

#46

ok this started out very confusing, but i think it is pretty much cleard up
my prob. now is that the brembro BB kit is for front only right and how much is it
i think it's expensive, but i may be thinkng of AEM

i want to know if the SSBC parts in the following link (mainly the 2piston w/13" rotors for front kit and the rear kit) will fit to my celica (95 st) without any other parts needed, if you do need other parts, what are they and are they expensive

ssbc

dangit, the link won't work so just put in the make model and year (i put 01, is this ok) and it will take you to the kits i am refering to

This post has been edited by celicaracer18: Jun 11, 2004 - 8:49 PM

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drdos

#47

i persoanly think the bremo BB kit would be a stupiida idea for our car;.s unless you have a 3sgte swap pushing more then 350+ hp

lagos

#48

how about using the ST185 calipers on a GT?

i have all 4 calipers from my clip and need to know what needs to be done to make them work with my car. the ST185 has dual piston calipers, and 5th gen guys claim its an easy swap for them.

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remjay

#49

switching to the 7th gen brakes or using brake kits designed for any other generation is not the best of ideas. You will throw off the the brake bias and probably even hinder braking performance.

Jeremy1210

#50

if you did switch to another generation celica, I think that you would have to get an after-market brake adjustable proportioning valve or the one from the generation that you switched to. That is so the proper amount of fluid goes to the wheels correctly.

I think speedtoe told me about this when I was asking about this, and I also think that he bought an after market APV for his ST

Jeremy

celicaracer18

#51

-celicaracer18+Jun 12, 2004 - 1:47 AM

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oOoHuY

#52

ok so basiclly what all these comments lead to that a 7gc front brakes are able to be tranfered right on a 6gc correct because reading all the big brake kit thing confuse byt yeah thats all i have to ask so it would clear it up.... also i have searched on about if a 95 st rear disk drum can be converted in to brake disk and no luck but yeah answering my question would help alot thanks

Jeremy1210

#53

nightrider

#54

I have been told by TRC that there is no compatibility between 7th and 6th gen rotors? Does anyone have model and manufacture part numbers or better still any pics!!! I would love to fit a NOS system but my brakes can just about stop me with my current mods. They would not have a chance with NOS on board.

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Coomer

#55

As far as I know, no-one has done this. Who's TRC? Do you mean TRD?

The rotors would be different, so you'd need to swap calipers too.

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nightrider

#56

I cannot find a big brake kit that fits 100%, companies are stating that thier kits for 7th gen will not fit on 6th gen ST202 models?

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Consynx

#57

i'd PM speedtoe and see if he ever solved this riddle

Kwanza26

#58

-nightrider+Apr 7, 2005 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE(nightrider @ Apr 7, 2005 - 12:20 PM)

I cannot find a big brake kit that fits 100%, companies are stating that thier kits for 7th gen will not fit on 6th gen ST202 models?
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That depends on what version ST202 you have. It will not work with the Super Strut versions, but will with the Macphearsons. As for companies, most tele reps don't know much about cars and such, so unless you're talking to one of the designers... they really can't tell you anything.

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Kwanza26

#59

-Consynx+Apr 7, 2005 - 4:24 PM

QUOTE(Consynx @ Apr 7, 2005 - 4:24 PM)

i'd PM speedtoe and see if he ever solved this riddle
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It's not much of a riddle... all that needs to fit is the caliper. The rotor, I'm positive will work. So long as the caliper bolts up, it's pretty much a done deal. I'm about 90% sure the 7th gens share the same knuckle pattern as the 6th gens.

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racingmcfly

#60

-Kwanza26+Apr 7, 2005 - 8:59 PM

QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 7, 2005 - 8:59 PM)

-Consynx+Apr 7, 2005 - 4:24 PM

QUOTE(Consynx @ Apr 7, 2005 - 4:24 PM)

i'd PM speedtoe and see if he ever solved this riddle
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It's not much of a riddle... all that needs to fit is the caliper. The rotor, I'm positive will work. So long as the caliper bolts up, it's pretty much a done deal. I'm about 90% sure the 7th gens share the same knuckle pattern as the 6th gens.
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Anyone got a set of Power slot big brakes for a gen 7 to fit a gen 6?

http://www.powerslot.com/cat_apps/trucks.htm

Ive got a set of GT4 ST205 calipers and discs but now I find they dont fit im looking for an alternative.