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So SexciCelicaChikk and I trying to do something different from your average 6th gen. By going to different limits and doing clean custom work that will set her Celi apart from the rest. This inculdes as most have you have seen an outragous audio system, custom body kit(still in the concept stage), and more. But I actually want to put a little focus on the wheels for a moment. She found a set of rims that sparked her insterest and ladies when something sparks "IT SPARKS" Unfortunatly their lowest size tho nice is pushing the envelope quite a bit for most peoples taste, which is what is drawing me closer to liking them as well.

So what Im asking for is thoughts, opinions, and ideas wether negative or postive. Question is Do you think this can work?

Here's some pics to help with more of a visual idea:

The two Rims she's eyeing right now



Her Celica


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Dang. Would love to see how our Celicas handle with 19s. Lol.

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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 17, 2013 - 4:24 AM) *
>Dang. Would love to see how our Celicas handle with 19s. Lol.


They won't. lol

I'd like to see the first ones on a 6g, but in order to make it work, the fitment and stance has to be spot on.

Last year, I had a set of 17x8 +35 on mine and they were really sunk. I would check the flush fitment thread for the amount of spacing and proper offset to make it work.

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QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Mar 17, 2013 - 10:47 AM) *
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 17, 2013 - 4:24 AM) *
>Dang. Would love to see how our Celicas handle with 19s. Lol.


They won't. lol

I'd like to see the first ones on a 6g, but in order to make it work, the fitment and stance has to be spot on.

Last year, I had a set of 17x8 +35 on mine and they were really sunk. I would check the flush fitment thread for the amount of spacing and proper offset to make it work.


As far drag, or rally yeah they won't, lol it'd be like trying to turn the Titanic on a dime, lol. But considering this build is for strictly show and drive I'm sure they will work fine. But yes bloodMoney you're absolutely right the stance and fitment will in fact have to be dead on which I am currently researching every angle of. But it will be interesting once all is saiid, done, and put to the test.

This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Mar 17, 2013 - 11:57 AM

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QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Mar 17, 2013 - 12:47 PM) *
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 17, 2013 - 4:24 AM) *
>Dang. Would love to see how our Celicas handle with 19s. Lol.


They won't. lol

I'd like to see the first ones on a 6g, but in order to make it work, the fitment and stance has to be spot on.

Last year, I had a set of 17x8 +35 on mine and they were really sunk. I would check the flush fitment thread for the amount of spacing and proper offset to make it work.

frotou has had 19's on his for a long while

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Celica-Boy has 20" rims.

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/1997-gt-hatchback-6982

I like the first set better, Joe. I say go for it. smile.gif

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QUOTE (richee3 @ Mar 17, 2013 - 12:36 PM) *
>Celica-Boy has 20" rims.

http://www.6gc.net/celicas/1997-gt-hatchback-6982

I like the first set better, Joe. I say go for it. smile.gif



Ugt oh, Richee just gave me his blessings so I guess its on then, lol

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Looks cool.

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QUOTE (Lil-Joe101 @ Mar 17, 2013 - 3:13 AM) *
>So SexciCelicaChikk and I trying to do something different from your average 6th gen. By going to different limits and doing clean custom work that will set her Celi apart from the rest. This inculdes as most have you have seen an outragous audio system, custom body kit(still in the concept stage), and more. But I actually want to put a little focus on the wheels for a moment. She found a set of rims that sparked her insterest and ladies when something sparks "IT SPARKS" Unfortunatly their lowest size tho nice is pushing the envelope quite a bit for most peoples taste, which is what is drawing me closer to liking them as well.

So what Im asking for is thoughts, opinions, and ideas wether negative or postive. Question is Do you think this can work?

Here's some pics to help with more of a visual idea:

The two Rims she's eyeing right now



Her Celica





There's a fine line between a good upgrade and overkill. 17 inch is pushing it on these cars, anything 18 and up is going to increase the rotational mass - meaning not only will it be heavy but it will take that much more power to turn the wheels. There's nothing really wrong with going a route that others have gone thru, it only means its tried and true. If you are set on getting wheels, stick with 16 or 17,, but increase the width,, more rubber contact the better handling. If you're set on having something "different" save up the money and get a 2 tone paint job. I've had many cars in my life, supercharged mustangs, turbo'ed eclipses, jeeps, rangers, you name it. If you need ideas send me msg and I can toss out a few more paths you can take.
If this isn't a race car (which it clearly is not) then why does "increasing the rotational mass" even matter?

@OP: I say go for it. The only comment I have is that you're gonna need some kind of aggressive body kit (TRD sides, C-One front, C-One rear, TRD wing, etc) otherwise the 19's will look humongous, no matter how low you go

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1st set for sure.
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QUOTE (Syaoran @ Mar 23, 2013 - 1:07 PM) *
>If this isn't a race car (which it clearly is not) then why does "increasing the rotational mass" even matter?

@OP: I say go for it. The only comment I have is that you're gonna need some kind of aggressive body kit (TRD sides, C-One front, C-One rear, TRD wing, etc) otherwise the 19's will look humongous, no matter how low you go



You're right this is not a racecar, but I'm simply stating the facts. If you go from from 15inch to a 19inch, trust me you will feel the difference not only in weight, but turning radius and overall ride quality.
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QUOTE (Syaoran @ Mar 23, 2013 - 1:07 PM) *
>If this isn't a race car (which it clearly is not) then why does "increasing the rotational mass" even matter?


Because unsprung weight is a bitch.

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 24, 2013 - 4:54 PM) *
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QUOTE (Syaoran @ Mar 23, 2013 - 1:07 PM) *
>If this isn't a race car (which it clearly is not) then why does "increasing the rotational mass" even matter?


Because unsprung weight is a bitch.


Doesn't really matter for daily driving. I've seen heavier cars pulled just fine with smaller engines... A 1985 Nissan B11 comes to mind. Hell, even a Genesis Coupe 2.0T with the Brembo and 19" Wheel package.

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Understood, but not valid in my application. The 7A-FE does not like pushing heavy wheels.

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i went from 17 inch to 16 inch, and the ride changed for better. It does matter, size

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My philosophy for compact cars is 15s for performance, 16s for performance and looks, 17s for more of looks and a lil performance, and 18s and up are for just looks with no intentions of performance difference.

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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 24, 2013 - 8:44 PM) *
>My philosophy for compact cars is 15s for performance, 16s for performance and looks, 17s for more of looks and a lil performance, and 18s and up are for just looks with no intentions of performance difference.


Nailed it right on the head man, that's exactly what her build is strictly about, "SHOW AND SOUND"

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QUOTE (Lil-Joe101 @ Mar 25, 2013 - 6:18 AM) *
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Mar 24, 2013 - 8:44 PM) *
>My philosophy for compact cars is 15s for performance, 16s for performance and looks, 17s for more of looks and a lil performance, and 18s and up are for just looks with no intentions of performance difference.


Nailed it right on the head man, that's exactly what her build is strictly about, "SHOW AND SOUND"

That all being said she might need your 3sgte just to pull around all that rim an sound system lol
I say go for it tho both sets look good

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when i bought my car it had 17's on it, i swapped out to 16" 7th gen gts wheels and it greatly improved not only my handling but my steering, ride quality, and responsiveness also were much better
To make an accurate assessment, you would have to take into account not only the size of the wheels, but also the weight of the tire/wheel combo, the rollout of the tire, the sidewall height of the tire and the quality of the tire. There are too many factors here to consider making an absolute statement about how your car will be affected

Having a larger or smaller rollout(how far the tire rolls in 1 rotation;circumference) will affect braking, acceleration, ride height, suspension and handling
Considering rollout is the same, having a larger wheel(and thus a slimmer sidewalled tire) would improve handling while reducing the cushioning effect of the tire. The sidewall flexes, which is obviously a good and a bad thing, but the wheel itself is rigid.
Increasing the size of the wheel doesnt exactly make it inherently heavier; the tire sidewall has weight too, but the heaviest part of the wheel(the literal rim)is moved further from the hub and therefor it has a higher moment of inertia.
Honestly, who cares what anybody says? You like what you like. In my case there is no way I would ever go 16 unless I go stock. 19s look amazing on our cars and the funny thing is that I've had those same wheels on my list for a long time (1st ones). Go for it and let's see some pics. Main thing is to get it right from the get go and don't go cheap on the work or components. Get the right offset, the right coilovers, the right tires, the right camber, etc...

At the end it's your car and you are the one that needs to be happy with it.

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