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More stuff. Got my beautiful steering wheel and Works Bell hub. Looks amazing, excited to install it! Also got my Tanabe Hyper Medalion muffler, and resonator. Exhaust is getting done now. Tires and license plate garnish waiting for install. Still waiting on the wheels, should be here Monday, along with a set of JDM Projector head lamps. Carbon parts should be here by the end of next week along with the seat rails and sliders. The seats are still about a month out:/





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Wheels have arrived!

Along with some projector headlamps.

Got the exhaust installed. Sounds really really good, better then I expected. Really quite, but a nice deep tone while taking off. No rasp at all. While cruising at a steady speed you can hardly hear it in the cabin.

Mean while, here is a teaser shot smile.gif Full pictures are soon too come.


Looks like I'm going to be picking up some SS_III front spats, does any one know if these fit the GT4 front end well? I have seen them installed before and they look great, at least in pictures. I wasn't sure if there would be any gaps though, between the bumper and spats.

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After having trouble with the company I purchased the GT4 calipers through, and trouble getting the rear rotors (For a decent price) I decided to say screw this, canceled the order on the calipers and purchased the Wilwood kit. Hopefully they get here in a timely manor. In the future I will still upgrade the rear brakes to units from a GT4.

On a side note, has anyone ever put a 2j in a 6th gen?

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There is a 1JZ swapped Celica that was/is used for drifting (the same one posted on your Facebook page.) A 2JZ is possible but not a good idea for a few different reasons. However, I wouldn't mind seeing a 4G63 swapped Celica as you mentioned on Facebook.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=92483&st=0


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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 26, 2017 - 9:30 AM) *
>There is a 1JZ swapped Celica that was/is used for drifting (the same one posted on your Facebook page.) A 2JZ is possible but not a good idea for a few different reasons. However, I wouldn't mind seeing a 4G63 swapped Celica as you mentioned on Facebook.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=92483&st=0



Yea the 2j was just a thought. I know the 4G like the back of my hand. This may happen come next winter. Not sure what I would do trans wise.

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QUOTE (Csober @ Jan 26, 2017 - 9:08 AM) *
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jan 26, 2017 - 9:30 AM) *
>There is a 1JZ swapped Celica that was/is used for drifting (the same one posted on your Facebook page.) A 2JZ is possible but not a good idea for a few different reasons. However, I wouldn't mind seeing a 4G63 swapped Celica as you mentioned on Facebook.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=92483&st=0



Yea the 2j was just a thought. I know the 4G like the back of my hand. This may happen come next winter. Not sure what I would do trans wise.


For a 2JZ swap, transmission wise, the V160 6spd would be the best option, but also the most expensive. V160/V161 cost more than the 2jzgte engine. $7k new and $4-5k used for 6speed.
It is the most expensive part on a Supra.
The alternative(Toyota wise): W58 and R154. Bot are not as stout but good enough.
Least expensive alternative: 300z transmission(requires adapter plate).

This post has been edited by Celica_MKVI: Jan 26, 2017 - 1:09 PM

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Not to mention all the extensive fabrication to get it done, honestly if you want RWD you're better starting off with something RWD. You should get a Mitsubishi Starion since they already came with a 4G63 everywhere else but here, so swapping one in should be easy I imagine. Now that would be a fun car, it's still on my list of cars to get.

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speaking of starion, I just watched this on the yootoobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErSXEHwg2e0

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While swapping a 4G63 in a Starion is very simple that's not really what I'm looking for. Fabrication, time, hardwork and money is fine as long as it's worth it.. A Rwd 4g63 powered 6gen with Gt4 exterior conversion is about as abnormal you can get smile.gif and that is what I like. Anyways just spitballing ideas. Not something I'd like to take on right now anyways. More focused on just enjoying the car this summer.
Oh my carbon fiber parts came in early too smile.gif

Rain guards
Hood vents
& Hoodspoiler
They look lovely!

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I think it'd be awesome but it is a lot of work. There's a project thread around here somewhere in the project section that had some good info on converting to RWD though I think they mostly used it for drag racing. The carbon fiber parts look really nice.

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Well here's a couple pics, got the headlights, steering wheel, all the carbon parts installed, and her all cleaned up. Very happy with how it looks. The pictures don't do the wheels justice.



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The silver and carbon accents look really great together.

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Thanks Box.

So it was time to finally get this thing on air. Needless to say it was far from a bolt in ordeal, but gladly I'm finished with the front. A bit of issues that I ran into was clearance clearance and well clearance.. Tire to fender clearance, wheel to shock-body clearance, and air spring to strut tower clearance. What a pain.. So originally I planed on running a double bellow (D.B) air spring in the front of the car and a sleeve set up in the rear. This is ideal for a few different reasons (Not going to get into great detail at this moment). Well with the D.B front air spring installed it was a little to close for comfort to the inside of the strut tower. So I decided to crimp up a sleeve for the front the same ones I plain to use for the rear. The sleeve is more narrow but also sits lower on the damper body. Free'd up a lot of room in the strut tower, but then notice the wheel to bag clearance was too close.. As I said the the D.B is fat and short, the sleeve is skinny and long. So the D.B air spring actually sits above the tire in the wheel well, so there is not clearance issues there, only with the inner strut tower due to it being a larger diameter. So back to the D.B. I had the upper camber plates set to -2 degrees, so I pulled that back out to 0 and that free'd up more room in the strut tower for the D.B. The tightest measurement at this point between the bag and shock tower was 20mm, and seeing this bag will only grow a maximum 4mm over all (2mm each side) and factor a total possible 10mm (5mm each direction) of strut movement (yes this is more then it will actually move but I like to play it on the safe side) so that means I should at all times have a minimum of 13mm of clearance. Tight, yes but it will work! NOW another issue.... After a full cycle through from full extension to max compression I saw a whooping 74mm of stroke.. On a 114mm damper body... to say the least it's far from ideal. The only thing that was restricting the stroke was compression and it was only due to tire-fender clearance. Now that I have the camber set to 0 on the upper mounts I had no room for the tires to go inside of the wheel wells. So I need more camber adjustment at this point. So I removed the lower mount from the damper body and chucked it up in our bridge port to machine the upper mount hole an addition 6mm in, to have adjust ability at the damper body- to hub location. This does a couple things, gives me the camber I want/need without sacrificing bag to strut tower clearance, and have more camber adjustments. After installation I found all the way in gives the car more then enough camber to provide 111mm of suspension stroke, which is phenomenal on a 114mm damper body. With having the camber adjustment at the lower mount this moves the inside of my wheel closer to the damper body, because the wheel is not moving with damper body on the camber adjustment. Luckily there is still enough room for there to not be an issue, and full in is a total of -4 degrees of camber laugh.gif at ride height, at air out its just about -5.. This is way more then I intend to run. I would like around -2.5- -2.8 in the front, which will still allow me to have full suspension travel! Anyways the front is pretty much wrapped up. Here are a couple pictures. I will be tackling the rears today.

As I said before we don't just throw bags on cars to slam them, if that was the case this would have been much easier rolleyes.gif. A large reason you can't judge performance and handling of all air suspensions off from one air kit. There is a lot of things we do to set our suspension apart from the rest.









Oh also got my rear bumper euro rear lip and euro rear license plate garnish installed smile.gif


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18 hours into this suspension setup and its officially finished. Feel like I'm talking to myself here so I'm not going to get into great detail on the rear. I ended up being able to run a D.B rear air spring which is great! Had to do some modifications to the inner strut tower to provide clearance for the air spring. She gets low smile.gif rides ridiculously nice as well. Keep in mind this set up still has 30 way adjustable damping front and rear, front adjustable camber plates, pillow ball upper mounts, and spherical bearing rear mounts. Nice and stiff pitching it into a corner but also soaks up the horrible Michigan roads much nicer then the coil-overs did. Front struts are 3.8 lbs lighter per side, and rear 4.9lbs per side. The control system, lines, harness, compressor, tanks ect. weighs 24.8lbs, so over all this system is 7.4lbs heaver then coil-overs. Complete ride height adjustable at a touch of a button. Something many people don't understand is that you can adjust individual bag pressure live. Couldn't be happier with how it turned out. Here are some picture of it air'd out smile.gif







Got this bad boy today also!


This post has been edited by Csober: Feb 6, 2017 - 1:59 PM

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clean car just really not a fan of people who scrape their cars over everything on the road or make the car handle worse that it did coming out of the factory.

look on upgarage, yahoo japan auctions and farpost.ru if your still looking for the rear factory option roof spoiler.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 6, 2017 - 8:54 PM

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 6, 2017 - 5:29 PM) *
>clean car just really not a fan of people who scrape their cars over everything on the road or make the car handle worse that it did coming out of the factory.

look on upgarage, yahoo japan auctions and farpost.ru if your still looking for the rear factory option roof spoiler.



It doesn't scrape on anything? Also handles significantly better then the factory suspension. Not sure if you are trolling or don't know how our air suspension works..

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 6, 2017 - 4:29 PM) *
>clean car just really not a fan of people who scrape their cars over everything on the road or make the car handle worse that it did coming out of the factory.

look on upgarage, yahoo japan auctions and farpost.ru if your still looking for the rear factory option roof spoiler.

friggin purists lolol
Its adjustable....scraping need not apply



I liked it before the slamming haha
But its adjustable so its never permanent!
Yeah, the forum really slowed down the past few months. All you'll get replying is Bonzai and Box.

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Clean.
I like it. Looks mint to me!

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 6, 2017 - 4:29 PM) *
>clean car just really not a fan of people who scrape their cars over everything on the road or make the car handle worse that it did coming out of the factory.


The scraping is mainly static guys who think they're cool. With bags, he can roll around at stock height or slightly lowered and air out when he parks it at shows or where ever to make it look even better.
It's like my buddy's r32, clean as f*ck with bags



This post has been edited by mkernz22: Feb 6, 2017 - 7:33 PM
im talking about geometry aspect. yea im sure they are better than a stock strut no doubt. Im somewhat aware of how bags work. But not to say i wouldn't go to your face in car meet and be like "uhh bags thats so wrong"

but perhaps I stated that because I've never been in a Track oriented celica or one with bags to know the feeling. but ya what tiga said its more of the slammed look that i aint a fan of.

most people are on facebook...

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 6, 2017 - 9:10 PM

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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Feb 6, 2017 - 5:16 PM) *
>Yeah, the forum really slowed down the past few months. All you'll get replying is Bonzai and Box.

Don't forget Bitter. tongue.gif

I'm open to the idea of air suspension, I'd give it a try before writing it off, but shocks/struts and springs or coil-overs you can get an idea of what to expect beforehand and they're proven. Which as far as aesthetics go I like about an inch or two between the tire and fender/quarter, so usually springs are perfect for me and if paired with a good adjustable shocks/struts perform just as well as coil-overs then I'm totally happy with that. Of course I like thicker sidewall too. tongue.gif Which I like the minimal to no wheel gap and thinner sidewall(not rubber band thin) look as well.

This post has been edited by Box: Feb 7, 2017 - 12:22 AM

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 6, 2017 - 9:57 PM) *
>im talking about geometry aspect. yea im sure they are better than a stock strut no doubt. Im somewhat aware of how bags work. But not to say i wouldn't go to your face in car meet and be like "uhh bags thats so wrong"

but perhaps I stated that because I've never been in a Track oriented celica or one with bags to know the feeling. but ya what tiga said its more of the slammed look that i aint a fan of.

most people are on facebook...


There is not one, because this kit on my car is currently the only performance air suspension on a 6g Celica smile.gif . Time and time again air suspension proves its self, yet for some reason people just cant understand that it performs. I mean take Cody Miles for instant. Finishing 1st in countless time attack events this year alone. Not only beating his class but also setting track records on Air Lift performance suspension. Here is a great article that is for anyone that can simple not comprehend that air suspension can perform as good, if not better then coil overs should most defiantly read. The proof is in the pudding. After finishing this if you still are not open to the idea then its simple, your close minded and follow what everyone else does, because every one else does it. I'm not direction this to anyone in particular just to the vast majority that still do not think air can perform. I had a kit on my 600hp Evo and that blew peoples minds... Especially in the Evo/Dsm (Where change was simply not excepted) community seeing that the car was specifically track orientated.

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QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Feb 6, 2017 - 8:33 PM) *
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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Feb 6, 2017 - 4:29 PM) *
>clean car just really not a fan of people who scrape their cars over everything on the road or make the car handle worse that it did coming out of the factory.


The scraping is mainly static guys who think they're cool. With bags, he can roll around at stock height or slightly lowered and air out when he parks it at shows or where ever to make it look even better.
It's like my buddy's r32, clean as f*ck with bags




That is a beautiful R32 biggrin.gif

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I think people just don't like the "slammed" car because of the stance scene and the idiots that scrape their cars like its the coolest thing to do.
but with bags it's different. it's always nice to have the best of both worlds. you can have a track monster and then take it to a show and park it on the ground. lol

so whats the next step? 3sgte swap? smile.gif

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Not sure how I've missed your build, nice Celica, man. smile.gif
Glad you are happy with my parts.

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QUOTE (cheela @ Feb 7, 2017 - 1:39 PM) *
>I think people just don't like the "slammed" car because of the stance scene and the idiots that scrape their cars like its the coolest thing to do.
but with bags it's different. it's always nice to have the best of both worlds. you can have a track monster and then take it to a show and park it on the ground. lol

so whats the next step? 3sgte swap? smile.gif


Well still waiting on the brakes to show up, along with the seats. But yes next will be engine / trans. Still up in the air with what exactly I plan on doing. Really thinking a transverse RWD 4G63. But we shall see!

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QUOTE (The_enD @ Feb 7, 2017 - 1:58 PM) *
>Not sure how I've missed your build, nice Celica, man. smile.gif
Glad you are happy with my parts.


Thanks! I appreciate all your help sourcing parts smile.gif

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QUOTE (cheela @ Feb 7, 2017 - 11:39 AM) *
>I think people just don't like the "slammed" car because of the stance scene and the idiots that scrape their cars like its the coolest thing to do.
but with bags it's different. it's always nice to have the best of both worlds. you can have a track monster and then take it to a show and park it on the ground. lol

so whats the next step? 3sgte swap? smile.gif

With anything there's a fine line between tasteful and gaudy, and those are somewhat subjective in of themselves. This applies to imports and domestics alike, some things being shared and some unique to each niche of cars. Air suspension genuinely intrigues me though, the idea of having a daily driver setting and then a track day setting and everything in between on the fly is alluring. Something that interests me in particular is with having a solid axle I wonder if there are ways of having a basic algorithm for the axle that'd give some quasi-independence by varying damping and spring rate actively side to side, of course what sounds good in theory may not really work out in practice but it'd be something worth trying I think.

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Whoa i dunno how i missed the updates either, but damn this looks sick!
Curious to see how it sits at the ride height you'll be driving around on, as well max height. In your feb 3 update, is that part of the bag sagging out from under the front fender?! (or maybe just fender liner)

Looks like you've dumped a wad of money into this in a short period of time!

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QUOTE (Csober @ Feb 7, 2017 - 1:50 PM) *
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QUOTE (cheela @ Feb 7, 2017 - 1:39 PM) *
>I think people just don't like the "slammed" car because of the stance scene and the idiots that scrape their cars like its the coolest thing to do.
but with bags it's different. it's always nice to have the best of both worlds. you can have a track monster and then take it to a show and park it on the ground. lol

so whats the next step? 3sgte swap? smile.gif


Well still waiting on the brakes to show up, along with the seats. But yes next will be engine / trans. Still up in the air with what exactly I plan on doing. Really thinking a transverse RWD 4G63. But we shall see!


ah yes! forgot u haven't gotten your brakes yet.

still haven't found matching rear seats either or did ya?

ooh! 4g63, really stirring things up. like Tigawoods said purist are gonna hate u. hahaha

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