I had a 87 ST, and that was a fast, zippy car. I had to sell it and now i bouht an 95 ST. I assumed it would be faster or at least the same speed. However it is slow, a 87 is much faster in accelaration. Do I have a probelm with the engine? Or is this just the speed of the 6th gen STs??
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The 87 ST had a very different engine. I think it was still an "A" series engine, i am not sure but maybe a 4AFE.
The 95 ST was pretty much built as an economic car, so yeah its probably slower for that reason.
The 95 ST was pretty much built as an economic car, so yeah its probably slower for that reason.
your old car had this:
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/3sfestats.htm
your new car has this:
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/7afestats.htm
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/3sfestats.htm
your new car has this:
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/7afestats.htm
Well why did Toyota downgrade to the 7afe?
-Jabberwock+Feb 25, 2004 - 1:54 PM
The 4th gen ST's had the 3sfe. I personally think they're a lot slower than 6th gen ST's... but that's my opinion. My ST is as fast as 6th gen GTs...
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-Kwanza26+Feb 25, 2004 - 11:55 PM
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> well i know the st is supposed to be slow, but lets remember the car isn't anything without a good driver.....like for instance with my practically stock at the time 96' ST. with nothing but a cold air and 17" rims(yea rims do nothing i know that) and really nice plugs....i abliterated a 7th gen. gt/gt-s (still not sure which one it was, but none the less he had a ton more mods on it then mine did) BUT the moral is that i CAN shift very well during a race....that freakin idiot couldn't shift to save his life so i won....so you can't compare car to car really...drivers matter too
> well i know the st is supposed to be slow, but lets remember the car isn't anything without a good driver.....like for instance with my practically stock at the time 96' ST. with nothing but a cold air and 17" rims(yea rims do nothing i know that) and really nice plugs....i abliterated a 7th gen. gt/gt-s (still not sure which one it was, but none the less he had a ton more mods on it then mine did) BUT the moral is that i CAN shift very well during a race....that freakin idiot couldn't shift to save his life so i won....so you can't compare car to car really...drivers matter too
-playr158+Feb 25, 2004 - 9:53 PM
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Well there is a certain point where driving ability is going to become worthless. Basically with a good driver in an ST, you might keep up with a 130hp car that is being driven by a subpar driver.
Even if he had crappy shifting, I promise it wasn't a GT-S. The vvtl-i, the lift adds so much. The redline is way high and the powerband is way up there too. Unless he had an autostick but you said he was shifting. You most likely beat a GT not a GT-s.
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I actualy out drove a GT once too, I dono if they are that slow, or they the drivers we encountered sucked that bad >
> course ours was kinda a log run along a road with turns and stuff so who could handel best had alot to do with it.
> course ours was kinda a log run along a road with turns and stuff so who could handel best had alot to do with it.
ok so it must a been a gt, they sit at 160 HP...this guy had a full exhaust, and no doubt a lil more engine stuff to go along.....so i'm thinking the exhaust has to at least add 20hp so thats 180 HP bottom line.....i'm estimating this 7th gen was around 180-195HP...i dunno..but the only complaint against my ST is the freaking REDLINE how the heck do i get rid of it or make a switch to turn off my fule cut off....cause i got beat my a SVT focus just cause my redline was so low that he caugh back up when i shifted outta 1st into 2nd....thats where i lose races is cause the redline is too low
-playr158+Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM
-playr158+Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM
-playr158+Feb 25, 2004 - 7:36 PM
and GT-S's normally make 160ish at the wheels... >
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-FallenHero+Feb 26, 2004 - 6:29 AM
"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
It's not a slow car by any means.. I got done for 97.9 mph last year.. ( I had been doing way over that)...
my GT is faster thou - but only on 'private roads'
my GT is faster thou - but only on 'private roads'
Well...maybe ill have to give the 'ol ST a tune up and possibly replace the clutch. What else would you reccommend to get some lost HP back??
the 7th gen celica gt-s has 180 hp the matrix has different engines in certain levels the XRS matrix and pontiac vibe gt have the same engine as the celica gt-s and they all sit at 180 with but the high redline of the cars is ridiculous they are hard to beat cause they keep goin and never have to shift well hard to beat in an ST
-bustown+Feb 26, 2004 - 10:49 PM
"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
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I know that my ST was slow. I ran a 17.7 at the track, but that was with low compression due to fried piston rings I believe, and with a clutch and synchros that were in poor shape.
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-FallenHero+Feb 26, 2004 - 6:29 AM
-toyotaspeed_90+Feb 27, 2004 - 12:13 AM
& toyota is known for overstating HP.....
-belizecelica+Feb 26, 2004 - 12:39 PM
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-toyotaspeed_90+Feb 27, 2004 - 2:13 AM
My friend has a 98 kia sephia bone stock, and his car is faster than my ST. Accelerates quicker, however top speed is lower.