my car has a weird idle, it will move all around. also the car shudders like hell when its idling. and i have no power. my friends accord KILLED me ina race. he has like 120 hp and its old and crappy. could this be compression issues?

-DamDirtyApes+Oct 16, 2004 - 4:48 PM

You got any codes? CEL?

Check the exhaust, like if the Cat is clogged or likewise. That would explain the odd idle, and no power.... maybe even the car might just quit.

did this just happen, or has it got worse over time?

If over time, check in intake and make sure the filter is nice and clean. Clean the throttle body area too for gunk. Check plug/wires, they might need a change. Maybe its a fuel pump problem, not getting you the right amound needed. Its possibly the transmission since you have an auto. Just some ideas, hope I helped.

-Ti

sounds like a vac leak or dirty air filter. check your engine bay for cracked or loose hoses.

88,000 miles


new plugs, new air filter, new fuel filter, 10,000 mile old timing belt, 89 octane fuel, original exhaust i think. nothing different lights up in gauge cluster.

i just had idle air intake senser changed a few months back which fixed a stalling problem. but since then the idle has been weird and the car shudders. this has gotten a little bit worse over the past few months. and now that i think of it i think the exhaust soudns a little bit different. also i might hear a weird sound in the engine bay. im not sure


o yeah alternator seems noisy. i dont know if that woudl make a difference

This post has been edited by DamDirtyApes: Oct 16, 2004 - 9:11 PM

DamDirtyApes, pop your hood and take a look around. you intake piping may have come loose or something like that.

when i looked in engine bay earlier it seemed normal

Put your hand behind the exhaust, and check to see if its normal. If it spurts or is really slow, your probably clogged. I've seen this problem on even new cars, so dont worry.

As for the air intake sensor.... are you talking about the 02 sensor in the intake pipe. It kindof looks like a probe in the intake pipe. YOU NEED THIS. Make sure its in and in good. This will cause weird problems with idle and accel. Also make sure the throttle body its cleaned up and all plug ins are plugged in. (throttle body: peice of metal between the intake pipe and intake manifold. Its a flapper door.)

-Ti

Let us know

WHAT UP ADAM!!!

hey guys, i decided to register since damdirtyapes=my friend.. i own an integra >>

adam your car would get wasted by a 120hp accord anyways if it was a stick shift ahahahaha

but..
some ideas since i dont know full story:
-injectors (buy some cleaner, mix w/ fuel)
-cam/rocker arms
-coil/dist (check all 4 cyls for a spark.. start w/ the easy stuff, this would make idle inconsistant if spark wasnt always present.. also would not give you much power)
-exhaust (i doubt it tho)
-fuel filter (youd be suprised..)
-air filter
-test out the spark, also see what happens if you turn on your high beams and press brakes real hard right after you turn on the car.. (watch the idle)
also go behind exhaust and smell it.. (yes breaaaaathe inn.. no dont) also see if its like spitting anything, or if its like put put put SPUTTER put put SPUT type thing..
and um.. oxygen sensor maybe, or intake sensor... i dont know much on the toyota scene @_@

also, didnt you put in angel eyes or somethin like that? are you sure you didnt unplug something on accident? (o2 sensor.. spark plug wire..) i wouldnt be suprised with you..

p.s. my cars still faster than yours adam! ahahahahh

This post has been edited by woode87: Oct 16, 2004 - 10:13 PM

woode u doof, i have new fuel filter and air filter

the senser i had replaced was some stupid one that was there to regulate the amount of air intake during idle or something... really stupid expensive chip

you had someone else put a new sensor in.. oh god adam.. oh god.. you can do it yourself faster and cheaper (actually i dont know if YOU could do it yourself.. ahahh)

but check the other 10 things on my list..

to check rocker arms: (if to tight, your car would bog.. if to loose your car would have slight knock/valve lash and you would also loose power) take off valve cover (idk on a toyota, but like 5 nuts) then just wiggle em, they shouldnt be able to wiggle much at all. if they can, you use a wrench to back off the nut, then back off or screw in the screw, then tighten the nut again.

to check alternator: put on anything that uses power and watch the idle
to test dist-related: turn on car, pull off the plug-wires goin into dist 1 at a time, and hold about 1 inch from the dist, if you see sparks jump then thats okay dokay
u should get some injector cleaner anyways, its like $5 and cant hurt
o2 sensor.. another possibility, you would notice bad idle, bad power, bogging..
exhaust.. i doubt it, take it off and look.

This post has been edited by woode87: Oct 16, 2004 - 10:38 PM

i just checked it out, air intake seems fine, vac lines seem fine, wires are fine woode u doof.

the exhaust might be a little "spurty" it seems a tad bit louder than usual. does this help out guys?

if exhaust is spurty then it still could be rocker arms, exhaust, alternator, dist..anything.. doesnt narrow it much really

That sensor that measures the intake is the 02 sensor. Honda-loser here, whoops I mean Woode >> (its a toyo forum -expect bashing - all in fun though) is right in the fact that you can pull the 02 sensor out in about 20 seconds. I doubt its rocker arms since 5S's dont have that problem. I personally think its a flow problem outside the block. Either intake/sensors or exhaust. Of course, I have a buddy you know Apes that can help you out. His name is "Toyota Garage." >>

-Ti

Hope I helped some

-turboinduction+Oct 17, 2004 - 3:52 AM

eric go back to ur ricer boards. lol . dont forget ur type r stickers either

toyota is made in japan too lol..

and im shaved clean, like your mom! ahahah

lol dude what has living in snohomish done TO YOU!

-woode87+Oct 17, 2004 - 3:03 AM

you toyotaies are lucky.. us hondaies dont get codes unless the car is basically dead, or the seatbelts are unplugged (oh god the seatbelts code.. it does so many things to the car!)

Sounds more like you have a tank of bad fuel, maybe some water in the gas, put a bottle of Heet or some other gas line dryer through it...and did you change the plug wires recently???

-woode87+Oct 17, 2004 - 4:22 PM

-woode87+Oct 17, 2004 - 12:22 PM

same thing happned to me, i think ur gettin a mis fire in one of your cylnders

the plugs are bosch +4s and are pregapped. they are the right ones for the car. the wires are original. so should i itry replacing wires?

well ill have to try that. dam toyota they get everysingle one of my dollars..... pretty soon im going to have spent over 10k at the dealership >>

i just put some stp fuel treatment in, proberly wont make a difference but cant hurt for 1 dollar a bottle