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Topic #18248 43 posts Started by ST204no2
Okay Here's the deal a Friend of mine is Building a supercharger kit for the 5th-6th Gen
5sfe celica. Should fit 1990 to 1999. We Will Be testing it on a 6th gen. 1996 5sfe st204.
He wants too know If anyone would be interested in Purchasing the Finalised Kit. So is Anyone interested? >smile.gif> Post any replies and I"ll Post the Details.
You need way more details before you can expect people to be willing to pay. You don't have a working car/pics or anything. I can tell you I am interested.

Sometimes we live to beat the odds.-Ryanaim: rkgreen04
ripp mods makes a kit for our cars
competition for a supercharger/turbo kit would be great! since our only options now are ripp mods, burien, or custom. Can you provide any specifics of the kit or pricing? im sure there would be many interested people

Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...
i would be interested if the price was right
I am very interested in buying this supercharger! Let us know how much $...keep us posted
yeah definately think u got a gem there because custom gets a lil expensive ><
-Punch+Nov 14, 2004 - 3:05 AM
QUOTE(Punch @ Nov 14, 2004 - 3:05 AM)
ripp mods makes a kit for our cars
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>smile.gif> Just saw the ad for Ripp in modified mag.

the basic style is the same shaft driven off the serp. belt using an additional tensioner to keep the belt tight. coupled to an eaton roots type compressor [All this still in development] bolted straight to the to the head and trans, output straight to the intake,
still working on fuel system possibly replacment injectors using a rising rate fuel pressure reg. and 255lph fuel pump to be on the safe side. I will post picture when we have more accomplished. Haven't gotten around to pricing yet.
Hello. I am the friend of Ian who started this post. Like he explained, I am in the process of building a supercharger kit on Ian's celica.

Here is a briefing on what will be in this kit and what is currently developed so far.

The kit will be a shaft driven system with the supercharger located behind the battery.

The supercharger itself will be an Eaton m45 supercharger with an electric clutch sourced off of 99-2003 Mercedes 2.3l Kompressor engines. This particular supercharger is more commonly referred to as a m62, but is in fact an m45. This same unit has made a proven 350hp+ on a 2.5L Mazda KL03 motor. (a very high reving 7k+ redline (7500 with the j-spec) motor used in Mx6's and Ford Probes) The superchargers will be repacked, oiled and inspected. I will also be selling the kit WITHOUT the blower for those who want to purchase their own off of ebay or search for one in a wrecking yard.

Included with the kit will be belts, pulley's, mounts, intake plumbing (with optional water to air intercooler, aka aftercooler), sequential blowoff valves, and a switch to turn the supercharger on and off.

Some of the options I am planning are:
5th injector with injector controller
Inline fuel pump rated at 190-255lph
Intercooler
S-AFC calibrating (optimal settings printout with an S-AFC tuned to the boost with a map sensor)

From what I have seen with looking under the hood of the test celica, the kit should be a 2-4 hour install for anyone familiar with working on celicas. The install will be similar and only slightly longer than a cold air intake and belt install.



I have already developed the shaft system and idler, the supercharger outlet and inlet manifolds. The brackets are currently being built and I am sourcing for some parts right now to make the kit complete.

I am new to this board and do not know the limitations on free advertising of products, so I will not throw out any prices, but expect it to be HALF the price of almost any other big company supercharger kit for any import.

One thing I would like to point out is that I do not own a full machine shop and this kit will be entirely fabricated with cutting/welding/grinding etc so do not expect polished billet aluminum CNC'd parts. However, I will do everything I can to develop an asthetically pleasing kit, reliable and functional.
what do you guys think about the M90 superchargers that come off of the 3.8ltr GM engines? A little too large for a small 4cylinder to spin? I wonder... those things are hella cheap off of E-bay. >wink.gif>
yo next make a 7agfe
*a supercharger for the celica st 7afe 1.8l
-playr158+Nov 18, 2004 - 12:22 AM
QUOTE(playr158 @ Nov 18, 2004 - 12:22 AM)
yo next make a 7agfe
*a supercharger for the celica st 7afe 1.8l
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7afZe. >wink.gif>
would be nice to have one for the 7afe...so make one..if you built it they well come...
Off topic, but I know a guy in the UK with a 3S-GZE

And a 2zz-gZe (goes quite fast)

JDM ST205Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying.
Are you goign to tell us a story Mr. E, or were you just throwing that out there. Sound's interesting

This post has been edited by spunky393: Nov 18, 2004 - 9:02 AM

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
-spunky393+Nov 18, 2004 - 9:01 AM
QUOTE(spunky393 @ Nov 18, 2004 - 9:01 AM)
Are you goign to tell us a story Mr. E, or were you just throwing that out there.  Sound's interesting
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What's to tell. Custom supercharger job on both.

The gentleman concerned has sucessfully supercharged both the 1ZZ and 2ZZ to good effect.

Here's the 140 (1zz)
user posted image

Link here;
www.celica-club.co.uk -> Modifications

JDM ST205Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying.
i would like to see the 3sgze, that's what i was askign about. Sorry for not clarifying

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
sounds intresting.. a complete kit... just would like to know more about whats going to be used for the fuel control.... and how would the SC reach to a diffrenet settings on a stand alone unit..

[TeamNJCT
I saw that ad in mod. mag and I got all giddy that they actually had a part for a 5sfe in a magazine.

-Brandon
it would be nice to have a cheap diy SC kit for the celica.

but the ripp kit is still a very nice one because of all the reasearch and tuning that went into it. too bad it costs as much as what u can do a swap for.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
-FallenHero+Nov 18, 2004 - 1:08 AM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Nov 18, 2004 - 1:08 AM)
what do you guys think about the M90 superchargers that come off of the 3.8ltr GM engines?  A little too large for a small 4cylinder to spin?  I wonder... those things are hella cheap off of E-bay. >wink.gif>
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Way too big of a unit! The m45 is designed by eaton to flow well on a 2.0L-3.0L motor. Even the m62 is too big, designed for 2.5L-4.0L motors. The m90 is for 3.0L-5.0L motors! I have seen these units used for Mazda 2.5L motors and they were OVERKILL. They made power, but were just way oversized. These are also HUGE units. Heavy, hard to turn, and flow insane amounts in relation to the m45. It's like putting a t72 turbo on a Celica. It can be done, people put then on hondas, but those hondas are fully built and designed to HANDLE the 30psi+ and 650hp+.
-macavely+Nov 18, 2004 - 5:31 PM
QUOTE(macavely @ Nov 18, 2004 - 5:31 PM)
sounds intresting.. a complete kit... just would like to know more about whats going to be used for the fuel control.... and how would the SC reach to a diffrenet settings on a stand alone unit..
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Hey, fuel control is initially going to be up to the customer. The first kit developed will be simply mounts/driveshaft/supercharger being optional to the customer/pipes. After this I will be sourcing suppliers for the sequential blowoff valves, FMU and other parts.

What do you mean about the SC reaching settings on a stand alone? You just tune the standalone to the supercharger. Does the Celica have a MAP sensor? (I am not too familiar with the celicas which is why I am working along side with Ian as he is supplying me with the technical information about the vehicle itself) If so every standalone ecu ever created will tune off a MAP sensor. If you don't have one stock, then they run around $50 new and can be put into any vacuum line and hooked to a standalone.

For some information on my previous automotive projects, see my website: http://www.squirrelsw.com/finishline (be sure to see the Project cars section)
sorry buddy. No pics of the 3S-GZE I'm afraid.

JDM ST205Blitz Spec NUR Exhaust, somewhere over $1000Needing another one 18000 miles later, bloody annoying.
-Mr_E+Nov 19, 2004 - 4:48 AM
QUOTE(Mr_E @ Nov 19, 2004 - 4:48 AM)
sorry buddy. No pics of the 3S-GZE I'm afraid.
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Oh well....

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
Personally, i think your supercharger thing is going to fail. You don't seem to know enough, and not nothing enough is a HUGE problem when it comes to selling a product. Clean your act up a little, no...a lot, and then the 6gc community might be more easily interested.

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
-spunky393+Nov 19, 2004 - 8:53 AM
QUOTE(spunky393 @ Nov 19, 2004 - 8:53 AM)
Personally, i think your supercharger thing is going to fail.  You don't seem to know enough, and not nothing enough is a HUGE problem when it comes to selling a product.  Clean your act up a little, no...a lot, and then the 6gc community might be more easily interested.
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Are you kidding me? >rolleyes.gif> I have been tuning F/I cars for years, I have built and owned 2 supercharged and 2 turbocharged cars (all were boosted by myself). If you are going to belittle my ideas or myself, you better have some good reasons to back it up or just shut your mouth, sit back in that computer chair of yours and continue to be an assuming idiot TO YOURSELF. I didn't come on here to deal with people like you which is why I stopped surfing forums over a year ago. I only came on here and had my friend do the same to guage the interest of the community and hopefully develop a quality and cost efficient product for the Celicas. From what I have learned about the Celica community thus far is good aftermarket parts are scarce. And the few available are overpriced.

Instead of telling me I don't know enough. Point out what you think I don't know and teach me. (since you must know sooooo much to be able to tell that I don't know enough based off reading a couple posts of mine) Instead of trying to start a flame thread.

This post has been edited by BoostedRebel: Nov 20, 2004 - 1:25 AM
What the heck are you talking about dude. You havn't provided any information at all. No one has heard of you before, and basically, the real problem is, if you wanted me to pass on information about your supercharger just this instance, i would feel so dumb, dumb to the point of drulling. You are playing grab ass with us. You came on our forums, not the other way around, so F*U*C*K off

The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dô Kyôshan–“You can not be what you do not believe you are”
hey spunky, settle down. Let him develop the kit, show it to us, and we can judge from there. Let the product speak for him.

BoostedRebel, if you need some info, ask some specific questions and im sure there will be someone that will be more than happy to answer it. As for the MAP sensor question, the 5sfe does has a MAP sensor. But for forced induction applications, most people replace the stock one with a 2 bar MAP from an MR2.

Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...