boosted_K2

#1

that was freaking mind boggling ive never seen anything like that before!!

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Coomer

#2

I agree! That was crazy! The best part is when that Pacer player drops that fan on the court with that punch...so awesome! >>

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dstrbcelica

#3

i didn't see anything..butta i just turned on sportscenter. but, WTF???

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funnyboy117

#4

I was at Hooters all night, and every time they showed that clip we had our whole party of 15 yelling and the whole rest of the restaurant was getting pumped too. They musta repeated it like 5 times while we were there. Wow it was quite a fight.

boosted_K2

#5

happened literally 5 minutes from my house, i live right down the street from the palace haha some crazy crazy stuff... i loved the breakdown sportscenter did with all the arrows and pausing it and pointing out who gets clocked and when lol it was hilarious... it sux theyre probably going to have to get rid of courtside seating and put some sort of barrier between the court and the field after this season. i cant wait till christmas day, detroit plays indy in indy >>

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Mynzeyes

#6

god that was the most amazing thing i've seen in quite some time...i LOVE seen people flip and jackin other peeps...awesome...

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BlackCelicaGT94

#7

ha that player is so gonna get thrown out of the league thats like the number one rule is not to hit a fan!! hit another player and get fined i bet but hit a fan and get thrown out

id be saying i was injured pretty bad if i was those fans

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CBawlla

#8

This was the sickest thing I have ever seen in my life. I've been a long time die hard NBA fan and I've never seen anything like it. It is disgusting and right now I am stunned. To see people cheering for the brawl to continue and for fans to keep instigating stuff with the fans really disgusts me.

boosted_K2

#9

mob mentality... one guy started the whole thing. i personally feel artest is a professional and shouldnt have reacted as he did. but then again, he was assulted and legally had the right to defend himself... those fans were HELLA surprised when they saw him jump off the table lol

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CBawlla

#10

boosted_K2,

I feel the same way man. Artest is a professional but the beer being thrown at him was uncalled for. I put a lot of the blame on the security at the arena. The fan that threw the beer at Artest should be charged with instigating a riot and banned from all NBA games. Knowing Artest's rep as being the bad boy of the league, I'm going to have to side with him on this one. I think that Stephen Jackson should be suspended for the rest of the season. He and Jermaine O'Neal are going to be having big lawsuits coming their way. I can understand that they were sticking up for their teammate but they need to realize that even in the heat of the moment, they are professionals.

boosted_K2

#11

no ammount of police and security can control an arena of 40,000 + people. they did the best they could at controling it but if that many people want to get into it, nothing short of the armed national guard could prevent it.

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boosted_K2

#12

not to mention how completely unnecessary it was for artest to just lay down on the scorers table.

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CBawlla

#13

But the thing is, it started in one particular section in the arena. When punches were being thrown in that section by Artest and Jackson, I did not see one law enforcement officer in sight. The usage of mase would have been ugly, but it would have prevented this entire debacle. The fans of Detriot are classless and this is a very sad day in the NBA world. The NBA now needs to look at reevaluating the way fan seats and benches are set up as well as having additional security on hand to prevent this from ever happening again.

boosted_K2

#14

lol it just goes to show alcohol at sporting events is a bad idea. and you can say the same thing about fans in numerous other cities where things like this have happened, this isnt the first and wont be the last time fans and players have gotten into fights. The palace of auburn hills has the best atmosphere of any sporting arena ive ever been to, and ive been to alot. the same thing could have happened at any city where theres a very emotional drawn out rivalry.

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boosted_K2

#15

for anyone interested the game is being replayed on ESPN 2 (its in the 2nd quarter right now) and also on Fox sports (just about to start the 4th quarter). the fight is with 49 seconds to go in the game

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CBawlla

#16

-boosted_K2+Nov 20, 2004 - 8:38 AM

QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Nov 20, 2004 - 8:38 AM)

lol it just goes to show alcohol at sporting events is a bad idea. and you can say the same thing about fans in numerous other cities where things like this have happened, this isnt the first and wont be the last time fans and players have gotten into fights. The palace of auburn hills has the best atmosphere of any sporting arena ive ever been to, and ive been to alot. the same thing could have happened at any city where theres a very emotional drawn out rivalry.
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Can't disagree with you there. In the heat of the moment, anything can happen. Add alcohol to the mix and that just makes it worse. Just because fans buy tickets which pays for the player's salaries, that gives them no right to abuse a fellow human being. The NBA should take steps in making different fanzone sections. It has worked here at the University of Hawaii where brawls between opposing teams and fans are not unusual. They put fans that choose to drink in a separate section so that mom and dad and the family dont have to hear the profane things shouted. Also, beer sales are stopped at half time. These things will always happen but there are always measures that can be put in place to prevent such an ugly thing like this. What ever happen to the decency of human beings?

boosted_K2

#17

that is a very interesting and intelligent way to deal with alcohol at sporting events.

im not saying that they can or should assult players. ive always felt that just because they are atheletes in sporting events it shouldnt suspend regular laws. ive always felt that some of the stuff that goes on at sporting events between opponents and other people is not punished severly enough, just because they are at a game doesnt mean they have the right to assult eachother outside the rules of the game. i think there should have been arrests at the event tonight and definatly more than one person should be spending the night in jail.

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CBawlla

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-boosted_K2+Nov 20, 2004 - 8:51 AM

QUOTE(boosted_K2 @ Nov 20, 2004 - 8:51 AM)

that is a very interesting and intelligent way to deal with alcohol at sporting events.

im not saying that they can or should assult players. ive always felt that just because they are atheletes in sporting events it shouldnt suspend regular laws. ive always felt that some of the stuff that goes on at sporting events between opponents and other people is not punished severly enough, just because they are at a game doesnt mean they have the right to assult eachother outside the rules of the game. i think there should have been arrests at the event tonight and definatly more than one person should be spending the night in jail.
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I totally agree with you 100%.

Heres my little vent, gotta get it out.

Regardless if they're a fan or a player, arrests should have been made. I don't understand why sporting events have different rules. If any of this chaos would have happened in an office or in a local bar, people would be arrested. Same with the heckling and jeers. I hear a lot of sick things being yelled at players ie. racism, comments about their family, threats. Yet people say it's a part of the atmosphere. Paying $30 for a measly ticket apparently makes it ok to get piss drunk and yell obsenities at players who are just doing their jobs.

boosted_K2

#19

agreed.

side note: 3 minutes to go, fox sports. about 2:10 left till the game actually ends.

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Kamakiri

#20

Heres a link to the vid for any that missed it....

LINKY

Andason

#21

bye bye ben wallace

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Andason

#22

anyone know where i can see this video as it happens? im at work and dont have a way.

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chucho

#23

link isnt working

LatinKraze

#24

Try this.

chucho

#25

ppl are stupid. You get paid to play a game and have no respect for the game.

saleeka

#26

i saw the footage of this today with my dad... Messed up to say the least... the way i look at it is this- The person who threw the beer was totally out of line, no doubt. but with that said- the player who ran up into the seating and started swinging was acting out of complete IGNORANCE AND UNPROFESSONALISM! Was throwing the beer right? NO. having a plastic cup of beer thrown at you from 6 rows up is NOT threatening your saftey. Attacking the fan was NOT self defense. Insulting in the extreme yes, but not justifiable to go apesh*t in the crowd when you are supposed to be a professional and are in the public eye. The players involved in the crowd fiasco will be sued no doubt, and in my opinion, deserve it. they also better not get just a slap on the wrist from the NBA. If you cannot understand in a situation like that you cannot attack the fans you dont have the brains to be a proffessional in ANY sport.

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boosted_K2

#27

i agree 100% with you saleeka i see all these polls on ESPN and on the internet asking whos to blame for it all, i believe the one on ESPN ended up being 50% believe the detroit fans were at fault, 34% believed ron artest was to blame, and like 8% thought it was ben wallace.

in my opinion it was like 80% THAT fan, the one single solitary fans fault, 15% artests fault. and the final 5% was a culmination of ben wallace, the NBAs lax policy on security and seating arrangements, the concessions not having a sales limit on alcohol at athletic events, and the referees letting the game get out of hand early on.

if you watched the game itself you can see the refs letting wayy too much go.

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LuDaChRiS

#28

that whole thing was nuts...sorry to say, i laughed at some points, but was disappointed mostly.

-Stephen Jackson is freakin nuts...dude is straight ghetto. He came in outta nowhere and clocked that guy in the stands. He probably should get the steepest punishment.

-Ben Wallace is a punk for overreacting like that...the foul wasn't even that bad.

-Jermaine O'Neal with the sliding M.Bison punch...haha...

-Like Tim Legler said on espn.com, if a fan is on the actual court, he's looking for trouble, and that's his fault when he gets it.

-The Detroit fans were totally out of line...mob mentality like others said.

-Poor Scot Pollard in his nice suit got drenched leading J. O'Neal back to the locker room.

I've never seen anything like this, and it's surprising that it was the NBA. Like people have said before, buying a ticket to a game doesn't give you an excuse to be a jackass.

I'd say Jackson gets fined and 15 games, Artest gets the same (even though he shouldn't...but he has a bad rep), O'Neal gets fined and 8-10, Wallace gets fined and 5.

Slowrider

#29

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anyone else see the pacers vs pistons fans brawl??

yes in switzerland it comes in the news on swisstv >>
crazy guys >>

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CelicaQT

#30

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anyone else see the pacers vs pistons fans brawl??

OMG i was there that night, we were going to leave with 1 min 30 sec. left, but we decided to stay and support with the rest of the fans when all hell broke loose!
It was unbelievable!

We were right there where they started running into the fans!!

Just chaos! >>