popstar

#1

ok !

so this friday our club is meeting up with the Moscow Eclipse club.......

Now we all know that some of us will have a bit of fun with some racing (drag)..

forget about the drivers for the moment,......

will a stock GT-4 JDM beat the turboed Eclipse (4wd) ????????


whatever happens i'll try and get some photo's of the meet for next week >>


I know someone on this site has some info on eclipes, or even has one !!!!!
the stock GT.4 can push 0 - 60 in 6.1 sec......... and the eclipse ???

This post has been edited by popstar: May 17, 2005 - 12:23 AM

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CheesyLobster

#2

damn that will be so awsome. get some video!!

jayi12-15psi

#3

well, if your specs are the same for the eclipse as in the states, I believe it has about 200 hp, compared to your 255. I don't think there would be too much of a weight difference.

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Insanity-74

#4

It wont be a problem for you Bud, you`ll beat him easily. Video footage would be good to see. Let us know how it goes.

ParaNoiD

#5

ive done a few races with these cars , only lost once >>

Mr_E

#6

-popstar+May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM)

will a stock GT-4 JDM beat the turboed Eclipse (4wd) ????????

I thought the Eclipse was FWD.

You should walk it.

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popstar

#7

Looks like i'm infor some fun on friday night then weather premitting >>

as for video's i'll see what i can do, photo's will be no problems....

thanks for the positive replied

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red94celicagt

#8

-Mr_E+May 17, 2005 - 6:09 AM

QUOTE(Mr_E @ May 17, 2005 - 6:09 AM)

-popstar+May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 16, 2005 - 11:24 PM)

will a stock GT-4 JDM beat the turboed Eclipse (4wd) ????????

I thought the Eclipse was FWD.

You should walk it.
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a '99 eclipse GSX is AWD, and the GS-T has same exact motor (same stats) but it is FWD, i assume he is talking about the GSX

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rockstarbass1

#9

eclipse gsx is the same thing as a talon tsi. and it being awd will give him the advantage, especially on the launch.

popstar

#10

ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?

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popstar

#11

-Insanity-74+May 17, 2005 - 3:08 AM

QUOTE(Insanity-74 @ May 17, 2005 - 3:08 AM)

It wont be a problem for you Bud, you`ll beat him easily. Video footage would be good to see. Let us know how it goes.
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Thanks mate >>

hey i did the bridging of the intercooler and but the box in the front arch was already removed........... 6 tanks of benzin and i've seen no change in fuel or proformance....... so my baby was already bridged somewhere or need some work somewhere else !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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prompt

#12

a 97-99 GSX is about 100lbs lighter then the 95-96. I have a 96 GSX and they run 14.8's. If he is a good driver and has the 97-99 he should be able to run a 14.5, but if he has fe/i/bc then i would say your gonna lose.

bloodrain

#13

-rockstarbass1+May 17, 2005 - 8:56 AM

QUOTE(rockstarbass1 @ May 17, 2005 - 8:56 AM)

eclipse gsx is the same thing as a talon tsi. and it being awd will give him the advantage, especially on the launch.
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the GT-4 is also AWD with more HP and torque, so there is no way the talon(eclipse) could take him, unless of course you REALLY suck at shifting, lol.

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darksecret

#14

I've owned and hang out with people that have DSMs, they're easy to mod but if the Eclipse is stock you'll smoke it, but if he put a 16G on it you might lose or tie.

rockstarbass1

#15

well most of the time if they have the 16g turbo, they have more done then just that (well the guy i know with one does) and his is fast. but i dont know much about cleicas seeing i just got mine, and this forum is a lil smaller then other so im learning slowly

97sccelica

#16

-popstar+May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM)

ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

  And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

    is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?
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popstar

there is no such thing as a JDM eclipse/talon

they were all made in the USA for the USA

the 95-99 models have 210hp when stock, the 90-94 are 180hp i think

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darksecret

#17

I think the GSX and TSi AWD had about 10 more horsepower also to compensate for the added weight. (Like 10 hp will make a difference with 300 lbs.)

dustin15brown

#18

If you don't smash him you need to do the following.... turn off the car, get out, grab an evelope, write my address on it, and give me the keys to your car >>

FallenHero

#19

-97sccelica+May 17, 2005 - 2:13 PM

QUOTE(97sccelica @ May 17, 2005 - 2:13 PM)

-popstar+May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM)

ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

  And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

    is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?
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popstar

there is no such thing as a JDM eclipse/talon

they were all made in the USA for the USA

the 95-99 models have 210hp when stock, the 90-94 are 180hp i think
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you lie. I had no clue they were only released in the states. So what, the Lancer was all Mitsu had over there?

wow. no wonder the eclipse was such a piece, it's made in the US. >>

Insanity-74

#20

-popstar+May 17, 2005 - 8:18 AM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 8:18 AM)

Thanks mate >>

  hey i did the bridging of the intercooler and but the box in the front arch was already removed........... 6 tanks of benzin and i've seen no change in fuel or proformance....... so my baby was already bridged somewhere or need some work somewhere else !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You`ll only see a difference if there was a problem in the first place. Check your error codes and see what comes up - slightly off topic there, noone else will know what we are on about.
Good luck with the Eclipse (not that you`ll need it), hope you show him the way home. >> >> >> >> >>

darksecret

#21

The eclipse was released in Japan of course, but in 4G version only, the Talon was never released in Japan because Eagle was created by Chrysler to be a US manufacturer that sold Renault sedans and bombed.

prompt

#22

I'm sorry but the Eclipse if it is modded will probably take you. But it will be close. To give you guys a good idea of how easy eclipses gain power off addons is the Apexi N1 full turbo back exhaust. Any of the turboed Eclipses will get 14-22 HP just off the exhaust alone.

Then if he has the EVOIII Big16g turbo. He obviously has the engine modded with 440+ injectors and a FMIC and the works. Also he will obviously have a Boost Controller and can run a safe 22 PSI. The car will be putting down low 12's or high 11's.

Otherwise if he is stock. You can exspect to beat him by .3-.5 seconds.

popstar

#23

-97sccelica+May 17, 2005 - 4:13 PM

QUOTE(97sccelica @ May 17, 2005 - 4:13 PM)

-popstar+May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM)

ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

   And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

     is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?
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popstar

there is no such thing as a JDM eclipse/talon

they were all made in the USA for the USA

the 95-99 models have 210hp when stock, the 90-94 are 180hp i think
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i see what you saying, the talon was a US model, but we have RHD one driving around on the street over here, which can only be JDM or UK models ??

but hey that's not the issue.....

basiclly if both cars are stock then the GT-4 has the advantage >> it's just nice to know >>

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_rz_

#24

-popstar+May 18, 2005 - 8:28 AM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 18, 2005 - 8:28 AM)

-97sccelica+May 17, 2005 - 4:13 PM

QUOTE(97sccelica @ May 17, 2005 - 4:13 PM)

-popstar+May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM

QUOTE(popstar @ May 17, 2005 - 5:15 AM)

ok the Talon tsi, as i understand your saying is a turbo and AWD !!!!!
with what 200bhp ??

  And my GT-4 turboed 255bhp !!!!!!!!

    is a JMD eclipse/talon the same ? anyone know ?
[right][snapback]287945[/snapback][/right]

popstar

there is no such thing as a JDM eclipse/talon

they were all made in the USA for the USA

the 95-99 models have 210hp when stock, the 90-94 are 180hp i think
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i see what you saying, the talon was a US model, but we have RHD one driving around on the street over here, which can only be JDM or UK models ??

but hey that's not the issue.....

basiclly if both cars are stock then the GT-4 has the advantage >> it's just nice to know >>
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RHD eclipse??? Are you sure about that Peter? As far as I know - there is no such thing as RHD eclipse. Even in japan all of them are LHD.
But anyways this friday is going to be fun. I'll make photos and video for everyone to see. This is the first meet between the Moscow DSM and Moscow Celica club.
We're going to have 5,6,7 gen celicas and 1,2,3 gen eclipses.
We're planning for a meet with Ford Probe club in the near future too, sol we'll get some statistics, photo and video soon.

H8DC3lica94

#25

As far i know, There is no JDM Eclipse/Talon/Laser. They were known as DSM cars. Diamond Star Motors. Which consist of 3 car companies that sold identical cars. Mitsu, Plymouth, and Eagle.
I believe all cars originated from the Eclipse, which was made in japan. the other 2 companies just made some minor exterior mods.

It came out in 4 models.
RS <- POS
GS<- good potencial
GST <- turboed
GSX <- AWD Turbo

prompt is right about the mods thing. When thses cars gets proper modification, these things can kick ass. my friends gsx had about 300hp on simple upgrades. didnt really tell me what, but he can take that car into neck- breaking speeds.

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darksecret

#26

Usually all it takes is an upgraded turbo and boost controller to break 300hp. If you have a RHD Talon around there you better steal that SOB because there's less of them than honest politicians. Like I said above Eagle is an American company, you don't think they sold a Dodge Stealth in Japan do you, they had a lower cost 3000GT why import our version. Good luck on the run and stay away from those draw bridges unless you'll have a Skyline or S2000, lol j/k.

popstar

#27

this is getting more interesting by the post.......

i know the first eclipse came in RHD my bro' had one in the UK and i'm sure that i've see RHD's for sale in the uk auto trader or the tuning mags like 'fast car' i'll check when i get home.....

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darksecret

#28

You said Talon before, Eclipse i'm not sure of, but I haven't seen one of them either.

XXX_Mina

#29

You will defenetly beat him... if he is stock... you got more power and a way better drivetrain... the tranny on those things are weak as ****... you can launch harder and you got way more power than him stock.... i dont see that car winning unless he has done weight reduction or has allot of engine mods or is just a way better driver than you...

Mina

prompt

#30

-XXX_Mina+May 18, 2005 - 3:37 PM

QUOTE(XXX_Mina @ May 18, 2005 - 3:37 PM)

You will defenetly beat him... if he is stock... you got more power and a way better drivetrain... the tranny on those things are weak as ****... you can launch harder and you got way more power than him stock.... i dont see that car winning unless he has done weight reduction or has allot of engine mods or is just a way better driver than you...

Mina
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Have u ever driven in a gsx eclipse? Or seen the easy amount of $600 worth in mods will get 300hp?

Not trying to be rude but I personally own a 95' gsx eclipse.

Plus even if he is stock...the gt-4 will really own beat him half a second at most.

This post has been edited by prompt: May 18, 2005 - 6:23 PM