Im looking to buy xxr 521s in 17x7 with 38 offset and will be running on 215/45R17's. What width are the spacers i would need to be flush to the fenders rear and front?
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35 mm rear and 25 mm front.
i def wouldn't do it though. find a set of 17x8 35 offset with 215/45/17's. it will look better and you'll get a bit better traction. and you can use smaller spacers to get flush.
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ May 9, 2011 - 12:06 PM) 
>Im looking to buy xxr 521s in 17x7 with 38 offset and will be running on 215/45R17's. What width are the spacers i would need to be flush to the fenders rear and front?
35 mm rear and 25 mm front.
i def wouldn't do it though. find a set of 17x8 35 offset with 215/45/17's. it will look better and you'll get a bit better traction. and you can use smaller spacers to get flush.
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I know, but it's just for the moment. It's not my final setup, I'm just sick of having my Oem wheels and tire setup. I'm fwd with a 5sfe, no need to have ''traction'' for now, there's no power to handle.
Later when I'll swap a 3sgte and do a Rwd conversion then I will get 245's on 17x9 rear and 235's on 17x8.5 front with the appropriate spacers. But for now it'll just be fine.
But I'm not dropped though ftm, you sure it's the right spacer width? But what does it change for the distance between the wheel and the fender to sit lower? Is it because it changes the steering/suspention setup a little which moves the wheel further into the fenders?
This post has been edited by dudeofchaos: May 9, 2011 - 2:13 PM
QUOTE (Promasta @ May 9, 2011 - 2:48 PM)
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35 mm rear and 25 mm front.
i def wouldn't do it though. find a set of 17x8 35 offset with 215/45/17's. it will look better and you'll get a bit better traction. and you can use smaller spacers to get flush.
QUOTE (dudeofchaos @ May 9, 2011 - 12:06 PM)
>Im looking to buy xxr 521s in 17x7 with 38 offset and will be running on 215/45R17's. What width are the spacers i would need to be flush to the fenders rear and front?
35 mm rear and 25 mm front.
i def wouldn't do it though. find a set of 17x8 35 offset with 215/45/17's. it will look better and you'll get a bit better traction. and you can use smaller spacers to get flush.
I know, but it's just for the moment. It's not my final setup, I'm just sick of having my Oem wheels and tire setup. I'm fwd with a 5sfe, no need to have ''traction'' for now, there's no power to handle.
Later when I'll swap a 3sgte and do a Rwd conversion then I will get 245's on 17x9 rear and 235's on 17x8.5 front with the appropriate spacers. But for now it'll just be fine.
But I'm not dropped though ftm, you sure it's the right spacer width? But what does it change for the distance between the wheel and the fender to sit lower? Is it because it changes the steering/suspention setup a little which moves the wheel further into the fenders?
This post has been edited by dudeofchaos: May 9, 2011 - 2:13 PM
everyone's definition of flush is different. the numbers in this guide are not even close to flush.
for real flushness, see this thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...19&hl=flush
i really don't like how Wannabe had different numbers for standard and lowered ride height, especially because he didn't say how low. some members are lowered 0.5" while others are lowered over 3". the difference is as you go lower you get more negative camber, so therefore not as flush. this can be corrected by either getting a camber kit or just getting an alignment.
but ya 35 mm rear and 25 mm front would get you flush with that size of tire. however, as you probably know, that large of spacer puts a lot of stress on the car, which is why i suggested just getting 17x8 +35s to start with. but with the 17x7 +38s you could do 20 mm spacers all around to be safe and it would look alright.
for real flushness, see this thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...19&hl=flush
i really don't like how Wannabe had different numbers for standard and lowered ride height, especially because he didn't say how low. some members are lowered 0.5" while others are lowered over 3". the difference is as you go lower you get more negative camber, so therefore not as flush. this can be corrected by either getting a camber kit or just getting an alignment.
but ya 35 mm rear and 25 mm front would get you flush with that size of tire. however, as you probably know, that large of spacer puts a lot of stress on the car, which is why i suggested just getting 17x8 +35s to start with. but with the 17x7 +38s you could do 20 mm spacers all around to be safe and it would look alright.
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Slowriders for stock ride height:
jgreenings convertible lowered on TRD springs:
QUOTE (Promasta @ May 9, 2011 - 2:36 PM)
>everyone's definition of flush is different. the numbers in this guide are not even close to flush.
for real flushness, see this thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...19&hl=flush
i really don't like how Wannabe had different numbers for standard and lowered ride height, especially because he didn't say how low. some members are lowered 0.5" while others are lowered over 3". the difference is as you go lower you get more negative camber, so therefore not as flush. this can be corrected by either getting a camber kit or just getting an alignment.
but ya 35 mm rear and 25 mm front would get you flush with that size of tire. however, as you probably know, that large of spacer puts a lot of stress on the car, which is why i suggested just getting 17x8 +35s to start with. but with the 17x7 +38s you could do 20 mm spacers all around to be safe and it would look alright.
The measurements are all calculated from two cars and the information they provided me. You have to remember these are recommended offsets to get it as flush as possible with no need to roll fenders or worry about strut clearance. jgreenings car had 1mm of room in the rear lowered on TRD springs which are about a 1.75 inch drop. Slowriders car looks pretty damn flush if you ask me. All of this is in the begining of the thread if you'd like to read it.for real flushness, see this thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...19&hl=flush
i really don't like how Wannabe had different numbers for standard and lowered ride height, especially because he didn't say how low. some members are lowered 0.5" while others are lowered over 3". the difference is as you go lower you get more negative camber, so therefore not as flush. this can be corrected by either getting a camber kit or just getting an alignment.
but ya 35 mm rear and 25 mm front would get you flush with that size of tire. however, as you probably know, that large of spacer puts a lot of stress on the car, which is why i suggested just getting 17x8 +35s to start with. but with the 17x7 +38s you could do 20 mm spacers all around to be safe and it would look alright.
Slowriders for stock ride height:
jgreenings convertible lowered on TRD springs:
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Yeah well, I actually though Oem wheels were 6.5 but they're 7in. wide. So 215 will look super ''balloon'' on 17x17.
The problem is that the mags I want aren't made in 17x8, only in 17x7
So I guess I will stick with 17x7 but will go with 205's for the moment and will get 20mm spacers or something like this unless I find other mags I would like (I don't like a lot of mags though )
QUOTE (Promasta @ May 9, 2011 - 3:36 PM)
>everyone's definition of flush is different. the numbers in this guide are not even close to flush.
for real flushness, see this thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...19&hl=flush
i really don't like how Wannabe had different numbers for standard and lowered ride height, especially because he didn't say how low. some members are lowered 0.5" while others are lowered over 3". the difference is as you go lower you get more negative camber, so therefore not as flush. this can be corrected by either getting a camber kit or just getting an alignment.
but ya 35 mm rear and 25 mm front would get you flush with that size of tire. however, as you probably know, that large of spacer puts a lot of stress on the car, which is why i suggested just getting 17x8 +35s to start with. but with the 17x7 +38s you could do 20 mm spacers all around to be safe and it would look alright.
for real flushness, see this thread: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...19&hl=flush
i really don't like how Wannabe had different numbers for standard and lowered ride height, especially because he didn't say how low. some members are lowered 0.5" while others are lowered over 3". the difference is as you go lower you get more negative camber, so therefore not as flush. this can be corrected by either getting a camber kit or just getting an alignment.
but ya 35 mm rear and 25 mm front would get you flush with that size of tire. however, as you probably know, that large of spacer puts a lot of stress on the car, which is why i suggested just getting 17x8 +35s to start with. but with the 17x7 +38s you could do 20 mm spacers all around to be safe and it would look alright.
Yeah well, I actually though Oem wheels were 6.5 but they're 7in. wide. So 215 will look super ''balloon'' on 17x17.
The problem is that the mags I want aren't made in 17x8, only in 17x7
So I guess I will stick with 17x7 but will go with 205's for the moment and will get 20mm spacers or something like this unless I find other mags I would like (I don't like a lot of mags though
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I currently have 18x8 offset 30 mags on 225x40x18 tires. looks good to me, but i feel i can still put extra 5mm spacers on the rear after i had the rear fenders rolled.
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Slowriders car is clearly lowered though, and in his profile it says he has lowering springs. And that's what I meant about everyone's definition of flush being different. Slowrider's is probably as flush as possible without rolling the fender, but to actually be flush it needs spacers, 10 mm in the front and 20 mm in the rear.
This is what I would consider flush, 18x8 +35s with 20 mm spacers, so an overall +15 offset.
QUOTE (WannabeGT4 @ May 9, 2011 - 5:18 PM)
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QUOTE (Promasta @ May 9, 2011 - 2:36 PM)
>everyone's definition of flush is different. the numbers in this guide are not even close to flush.
The measurements are all calculated from two cars and the information they provided me. You have to remember these are recommended offsets to get it as flush as possible with no need to roll fenders or worry about strut clearance. jgreenings car had 1mm of room in the rear lowered on TRD springs which are about a 1.75 inch drop. Slowriders car looks pretty damn flush if you ask me. All of this is in the begining of the thread if you'd like to read it.Slowriders car is clearly lowered though, and in his profile it says he has lowering springs. And that's what I meant about everyone's definition of flush being different. Slowrider's is probably as flush as possible without rolling the fender, but to actually be flush it needs spacers, 10 mm in the front and 20 mm in the rear.
This is what I would consider flush, 18x8 +35s with 20 mm spacers, so an overall +15 offset.
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See, in my opinion that sticks out too far... especially in the front. That's about an inch difference to what the guide says which would be about right in my opinion. To each their own I suppose. We have a separate flush fitment guide if that's what people want. If they want no hassle fitment they can look here.
QUOTE (Promasta @ May 11, 2011 - 1:11 PM)
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Slowriders car is clearly lowered though, and in his profile it says he has lowering springs. And that's what I meant about everyone's definition of flush being different. Slowrider's is probably as flush as possible without rolling the fender, but to actually be flush it needs spacers, 10 mm in the front and 20 mm in the rear.
This is what I would consider flush, 18x8 +35s with 20 mm spacers, so an overall +15 offset.
QUOTE (WannabeGT4 @ May 9, 2011 - 5:18 PM)
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QUOTE (Promasta @ May 9, 2011 - 2:36 PM)
>everyone's definition of flush is different. the numbers in this guide are not even close to flush.
The measurements are all calculated from two cars and the information they provided me. You have to remember these are recommended offsets to get it as flush as possible with no need to roll fenders or worry about strut clearance. jgreenings car had 1mm of room in the rear lowered on TRD springs which are about a 1.75 inch drop. Slowriders car looks pretty damn flush if you ask me. All of this is in the begining of the thread if you'd like to read it.Slowriders car is clearly lowered though, and in his profile it says he has lowering springs. And that's what I meant about everyone's definition of flush being different. Slowrider's is probably as flush as possible without rolling the fender, but to actually be flush it needs spacers, 10 mm in the front and 20 mm in the rear.
This is what I would consider flush, 18x8 +35s with 20 mm spacers, so an overall +15 offset.
See, in my opinion that sticks out too far... especially in the front. That's about an inch difference to what the guide says which would be about right in my opinion. To each their own I suppose. We have a separate flush fitment guide if that's what people want. If they want no hassle fitment they can look here.
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Dont jdm and usdm celicas have different offsets?
Nope
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my configuration is:
OZ Crono Wheels 17" 8JJ 35mm, fits perfectly on 6gen
no spacers needed!
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OZ Crono Wheels 17" 8JJ 35mm, fits perfectly on 6gen
no spacers needed!
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QUOTE (zeus83 @ May 15, 2011 - 10:05 PM)
>my configuration is:
OZ Crono Wheels 17" 8JJ 35mm, fits perfectly on 6gen
no spacers needed!
Looks just about perfect and very close to the numbers in the first post. Thanks for sharing Zeus. OZ Crono Wheels 17" 8JJ 35mm, fits perfectly on 6gen
no spacers needed!
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how about this:
215/45R17 Tires
Sparco Assetto Gara 17x7.5 with +35 Offset and adding 10mm spacers
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215/45R17 Tires
Sparco Assetto Gara 17x7.5 with +35 Offset and adding 10mm spacers
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would a 17x9 with +42 offset fit?? what kind of tires would you suggest on these rims? my celi is only lowered a bit less the one inch.. but i want to lower it maybe 1.5-2"...
any thoughts on the megan coilovers? i'm thinking of getting them...
any thoughts on the megan coilovers? i'm thinking of getting them...
Any thoughts of spacers needed on 17x7 215/45/17? I believe offset is +45 on them and they're as sucked in as can be lol i have about 1mm clearance from coilover in the rear. What's a good spacer i could use? Disregarding ride height because that can be adjusted. Btw anna i got tein superstreets and love them, im sure megan's are about the same quality but a bit less expensive
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possibly 15mm spacer up front and 20mm spacer in the rear, but I'm not quite sure if your looking for flush look or not?
QUOTE (lynxiesz @ Jun 25, 2011 - 5:02 PM)
>Any thoughts of spacers needed on 17x7 215/45/17? I believe offset is +45 on them and they're as sucked in as can be lol i have about 1mm clearance from coilover in the rear. What's a good spacer i could use? Disregarding ride height because that can be adjusted. Btw anna i got tein superstreets and love them, im sure megan's are about the same quality but a bit less expensive
possibly 15mm spacer up front and 20mm spacer in the rear, but I'm not quite sure if your looking for flush look or not?
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I'm not too picky about it being perfectly flush etc, just want it to get a wider stance but not sticking out like crazy. I was thinking about the same sizes too so I think i'll try those. Thanks!
If you check out my pics, I'm running 20mm up front, 25mm in the back. Same spec wheels. The rears scrape a tiny bit when hooking around corners at a decent speed or have a full car.
Edit: I'm running 205/45 tyres though
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Edit: I'm running 205/45 tyres though
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Yeah I really like how your wheels line up. So the fender cuts up the rear tire a bit? By the way beautiful car man
It doesn't really 'Cut' into it at all really. Theres no wear on the tires from the guards, more the Negative camber i have. When turning a corner more aggressively, the body of the car moves down more onto the side of the tire.
So, depending on your suspension setup, and negative camber, you shouldn't run into many problems with your tires getting sliced.
So, depending on your suspension setup, and negative camber, you shouldn't run into many problems with your tires getting sliced.
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Hmmm I just physically measured 40mm gap in front and 30mm in back from tires to fender? That's kind of weird i thought the back had more of a gap than the fronts
Hi guys, a speedy response would be amazing.
I'm going to order 15x7" Diamond Racing Steelies
I want them to stick out and be much more flush than the stockers, but I don't want any troubles or have to do anything extra. Wht would a good offset be? Maybe 25mm?
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so the teins run really good? i was thinkin of getting those but the cost quite a bit more than the megans! .... hey i was lookin at your pics... and how did u make all ur interior lights blue?!?!
QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 26, 2011 - 3:49 AM)
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possibly 15mm spacer up front and 20mm spacer in the rear, but I'm not quite sure if your looking for flush look or not?
QUOTE (lynxiesz @ Jun 25, 2011 - 5:02 PM)
>Any thoughts of spacers needed on 17x7 215/45/17? I believe offset is +45 on them and they're as sucked in as can be lol i have about 1mm clearance from coilover in the rear. What's a good spacer i could use? Disregarding ride height because that can be adjusted. Btw anna i got tein superstreets and love them, im sure megan's are about the same quality but a bit less expensive
possibly 15mm spacer up front and 20mm spacer in the rear, but I'm not quite sure if your looking for flush look or not?
so the teins run really good? i was thinkin of getting those but the cost quite a bit more than the megans! .... hey i was lookin at your pics... and how did u make all ur interior lights blue?!?!
ok soo looking at a set of motegi MR125 @ 17x7.5 et 42(only option they have for the 5x100) after reading this thread, it would seem that i will need a 10mm in the front and 15mm in the rear. the car has a 1" drop lowered on sprint springs. looking to perhaps put a set of 235 45 r17's on em..
any ideas if it will rub at all?
any ideas if it will rub at all?
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Here's my mark. I have 17x8 +35 with 235-45-17 all around. In the rears, I'd need 25mm spacers for flush and fronts need 15mm spacers for flush. My 15mm spacers made a difference in the rear, 10mm more and i'd be flush. I'm dropped 3" in the front and 2" in the rear with megan coilovers. Front were "ghetto" rolled (psh new front end next spring) and rears unrolled. My rears rub quite a bit on bumps. I raised the front .5 and it still rubbed so I dropped it back down to 2". Oh well. Yes, fronts were rolled but they stuck in and rubbed my tires quite a bit. Going straight wont rub but turns are annoying as hell.
So in all, get something around 17x8 +10 rears and +20 fronts would've been flush as hell. But, the wheels make all the difference in the world! Check bore, etc, etc.
17x7.5 with a 10mm spacer isn't going to do jack to your car. if you have 17x7 with 40+ offset on up, do your homework as you need a huge chunk of spacer to cover that gap. Think about it, +35 is the magic number so think lower, NOT higher!
This post has been edited by block: Sep 15, 2011 - 9:03 AM
So in all, get something around 17x8 +10 rears and +20 fronts would've been flush as hell. But, the wheels make all the difference in the world! Check bore, etc, etc.
17x7.5 with a 10mm spacer isn't going to do jack to your car. if you have 17x7 with 40+ offset on up, do your homework as you need a huge chunk of spacer to cover that gap. Think about it, +35 is the magic number so think lower, NOT higher!
This post has been edited by block: Sep 15, 2011 - 9:03 AM
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perfect example of flush. there are going to be angles where it looks as if the wheels are sticking out. though, +10 & +15 makes a tiny difference. either way, it's as close to flush as possible.
QUOTE (Promasta @ May 11, 2011 - 2:11 PM)
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QUOTE (WannabeGT4 @ May 9, 2011 - 5:18 PM)
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perfect example of flush. there are going to be angles where it looks as if the wheels are sticking out. though, +10 & +15 makes a tiny difference. either way, it's as close to flush as possible.
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thanx block, yeah, if i could i would get a set @ 35mm ET.. the thing is that this set comes in at just over 16lbs per rim, for a 17" rim. And they are in the $155 range, making them one of the lightest and cheapest rims on the market.. and i auto-x ( but this will be my DD so mostly an ocational weekend worrior) so looking to stick as much meet as i can w/o rubbing.. sooo i should be ok right? even w/o the spacers? im not looking for hella flush or even a hard tuck, just dont want them to be too sucked in, and get a better stance to manage my center of gravety during a race.
QUOTE (block @ Sep 15, 2011 - 10:01 AM)
>Here's my mark. I have 17x8 +35 with 235-45-17 all around. In the rears, I'd need 25mm spacers for flush and fronts need 15mm spacers for flush. My 15mm spacers made a difference in the rear, 10mm more and i'd be flush. I'm dropped 3" in the front and 2" in the rear with megan coilovers. Front were "ghetto" rolled (psh new front end next spring) and rears unrolled. My rears rub quite a bit on bumps. I raised the front .5 and it still rubbed so I dropped it back down to 2". Oh well. Yes, fronts were rolled but they stuck in and rubbed my tires quite a bit. Going straight wont rub but turns are annoying as hell.
So in all, get something around 17x8 +10 rears and +20 fronts would've been flush as hell. But, the wheels make all the difference in the world! Check bore, etc, etc.
17x7.5 with a 10mm spacer isn't going to do jack to your car. if you have 17x7 with 40+ offset on up, do your homework as you need a huge chunk of spacer to cover that gap. Think about it, +35 is the magic number so think lower, NOT higher!
So in all, get something around 17x8 +10 rears and +20 fronts would've been flush as hell. But, the wheels make all the difference in the world! Check bore, etc, etc.
17x7.5 with a 10mm spacer isn't going to do jack to your car. if you have 17x7 with 40+ offset on up, do your homework as you need a huge chunk of spacer to cover that gap. Think about it, +35 is the magic number so think lower, NOT higher!
thanx block, yeah, if i could i would get a set @ 35mm ET.. the thing is that this set comes in at just over 16lbs per rim, for a 17" rim. And they are in the $155 range, making them one of the lightest and cheapest rims on the market.. and i auto-x ( but this will be my DD so mostly an ocational weekend worrior) so looking to stick as much meet as i can w/o rubbing.. sooo i should be ok right? even w/o the spacers? im not looking for hella flush or even a hard tuck, just dont want them to be too sucked in, and get a better stance to manage my center of gravety during a race.
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Is there a way I can make 18x9,5 +34 front fit without cutting fenders? I'm sure some negative camber will be needed. What tires will I need to prevent rubbing?
I know it's not to everyone's taste, but I'm trying to go for "hellaflush".
This post has been edited by Ehrgeiz: Sep 19, 2011 - 10:43 AM
I know it's not to everyone's taste, but I'm trying to go for "hellaflush".
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I'm looking at a set of Work Emotion CR Kai's for my gt4, They are 17x7 with an offset of +47. What size spacers would you recommend ?