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SwissFerdi

#241

Plus...isn't it pretty much impossible to run a 54 mm spacer?

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Harold_Fastwaker

#242

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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Nov 12, 2009 - 2:52 PM)

>Plus...isn't it pretty much impossible to run a 54 mm spacer?

lol, no its not. Just over 2 inches. I dunno if I would really want to run that though. Definitely feel the wear and tear on the car quicker.

I wouldn't go much beyond a 1.5 inch spacer.

So pretty much, buy a 7.5in wide wheel to start with if you want it flush.

:.....Flush Wheel Fitment Guide.....:

SoundSlut_dotcom

#243

hey i am looking at these wheels

19x8.5 5x100/114.3 45 offset

will the 8.5 width fit in the front and rear?

and also how big of a spacer do i BUY to put on ?

thanks for the help

Harold_Fastwaker

#244

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QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Nov 19, 2009 - 5:31 PM)

>hey i am looking at these wheels

19x8.5 5x100/114.3 45 offset

will the 8.5 width fit in the front and rear?

and also how big of a spacer do i BUY to put on ?

thanks for the help

Front
8.5" ---------- et+27mm
Rear
8.5" ---------- et+10mm

so you need 45-27= 18mm spacer for flush in front
45-10 = 35mm spacer in rear for flush

:.....Flush Wheel Fitment Guide.....:

Promasta

#245

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QUOTE (SoundSlut_dotcom @ Nov 19, 2009 - 5:31 PM)

>hey i am looking at these wheels

19x8.5 5x100/114.3 45 offset

will the 8.5 width fit in the front and rear?

and also how big of a spacer do i BUY to put on ?

thanks for the help

don't think anyone has done 19x8.5 in the front, but it should work with a 215/35/19. for spacers you'd want 15mm front and 30mm rear if you want it flush.

schmooot

#246

what about 16x6.5" and ET39, With a test fit I've concluded that a 10mm spacer will be enough to clear my gt4 calipers but if I'm getting spacers and longer studs anyways I may as well make it flush with the fender right?

This post has been edited by schmooot: Dec 1, 2009 - 11:05 AM

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Penkka

#247

Heya,

gettin new rims in the spring, and Ive been thinking that 17" and 7,5" or 8" width should be ok for me..
what ET should I be looking for a flush look?
The car is lowered on Tein-springs.

And it should also be able to cope with the gt4 monster calipers.
and I really wouldn´t like to use spacers..!

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Harold_Fastwaker

#248

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QUOTE (schmooot @ Dec 1, 2009 - 11:04 AM)

>what about 16x6.5" and ET39, With a test fit I've concluded that a 10mm spacer will be enough to clear my gt4 calipers but if I'm getting spacers and longer studs anyways I may as well make it flush with the fender right?

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QUOTE (Penkka @ Dec 2, 2009 - 3:57 AM)

>Heya,

gettin new rims in the spring, and Ive been thinking that 17" and 7,5" or 8" width should be ok for me..
what ET should I be looking for a flush look?
The car is lowered on Tein-springs.

And it should also be able to cope with the gt4 monster calipers.
and I really wouldn´t like to use spacers..!

look at the link in my sig to the flush wheel guide. It will answer both of your questions.

:.....Flush Wheel Fitment Guide.....:

jordisonjr

#249

I was looking at these set of Konig Lace rims, 18x8 with a 45 offset, the car is lowerd on tiens s techs. I read the the guide and I'm pretty sure these will fit, but does anyone know what size tire would work? I was thinking a 225/40/18 tire, can anyone give me some input on this?

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SoundSlut_dotcom

#250

so guys srpings almost here , 19 x 8.5 front and rear will fit without modification? anyone know?

GriffGirl

#251

That's a close one, I dunno if that'll clear the front fenders w/out rolling them. IIRC 19x8 will fit up front, but I dunno for sure about 8.5

babi_boi

#252

Ok so I got some new wheels. They are 17 x 7.0. If I am understanding this correctly, in order for my wheels to be flush, I need (7.0"-----30mm with 15mm spacer (effectively 15mm) *) a 15mm wheel spacer. I went to our local part store and the only wheel spacers they have are 7.94mm. So I was wondering if it would be ok if I bought 2 of the 7.94mm and put them together on each wheel. (safe wise) I know it will be 15.88mm if i do that, .88mm more than needed. But will it be safe if i put 2 wheel spacers on 1 wheel. Thanks in advanced for any responces, Sorry if this is a stupid question.

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6strngs

#253

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QUOTE (babi_boi @ Feb 27, 2010 - 6:10 PM)

>Ok so I got some new wheels. They are 17 x 7.0. If I am understanding this correctly, in order for my wheels to be flush, I need (7.0"-----30mm with 15mm spacer (effectively 15mm) *) a 15mm wheel spacer. I went to our local part store and the only wheel spacers they have are 7.94mm. So I was wondering if it would be ok if I bought 2 of the 7.94mm and put them together on each wheel. (safe wise) I know it will be 15.88mm if i do that, .88mm more than needed. But will it be safe if i put 2 wheel spacers on 1 wheel. Thanks in advanced for any responces, Sorry if this is a stupid question.

what are the offset of the wheels you have? It says you need a 30mm offset wheel with a 15mm spacer which effectively makes your wheel into a 15mm offset, but a 17x7 with a 30mm offset isn't exactly common.

anyway, you might be able to get away with running two spacers, but to be honest, I wouldn't do it, just in case. Just get some proper spacers and don't risk it. You also need extended wheel studs to run spacers btw.

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babi_boi

#254

Ok thanks for the respond. This might be a stupid question, but how do you find out what the off set is? On the reciept I got with the wheels, it says (CUSTOM 17" 5-100/114 DC024 CH) with tire size being 215/45/17 ATG. Does that mean anything for the off set? Or how do I find out what the offset is?

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schmooot

#255

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QUOTE (babi_boi @ Mar 9, 2010 - 8:52 AM)

>Ok thanks for the respond. This might be a stupid question, but how do you find out what the off set is? On the reciept I got with the wheels, it says (CUSTOM 17" 5-100/114 DC024 CH) with tire size being 215/45/17 ATG. Does that mean anything for the off set? Or how do I find out what the offset is?

The offset is stamped on the inside of the rim itself...usually one of the spokes, it will say ET45 JJ or something like that

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6strngs

#256

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QUOTE (babi_boi @ Mar 9, 2010 - 5:52 AM)

>Ok thanks for the respond. This might be a stupid question, but how do you find out what the off set is? On the reciept I got with the wheels, it says (CUSTOM 17" 5-100/114 DC024 CH) with tire size being 215/45/17 ATG. Does that mean anything for the off set? Or how do I find out what the offset is?

yep. should be stamped somewhere on the wheel on the back of the spoke or something. It'll say 17x7 JJ ET## or something similar. The ET # is the offset.

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babi_boi

#257

Ok so I check my wheel but was not sure if I read the print right, so I called the company I got the wheels from and gave them the invoice number. They said the wheels are a positive 40 offset. So they are 17x7.0 with a positive 40 offset. I did not see those numbers on the chart. Can somebody help me find out what wheel spacer I need to have the wheels sit flush with the body lines?

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6strngs

#258

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QUOTE (babi_boi @ Mar 9, 2010 - 9:47 AM)

>Ok so I check my wheel but was not sure if I read the print right, so I called the company I got the wheels from and gave them the invoice number. They said the wheels are a positive 40 offset. So they are 17x7.0 with a positive 40 offset. I did not see those numbers on the chart. Can somebody help me find out what wheel spacer I need to have the wheels sit flush with the body lines?

well, for the same 15 mm offset you were trying to achieve, you would need a 25mm, or 1 inch spacer. for a lowered car it calls for a 26mm offset, which you would want a 14mm spacer for, but they don't make those so I would go with a 15mm.

To be honest though, I would just run them without spacers for the time being, then measure how much you want it to come out for your ideal look and buy spacers of that size.

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babi_boi

#259

Ok thank you for the help.

BABI BOI

MrAyasli

#260

Kuro Intake Size - 17X7.0
I was thinking of buying these for my car would they sink in or be flush?

Sorry for the noobie question lol.

Harold_Fastwaker

#261

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QUOTE (MrAyasli @ Mar 9, 2010 - 6:21 PM)

>Kuro Intake Size - 17X7.0
I was thinking of buying these for my car would they sink in or be flush?

Sorry for the noobie question lol.

What is the offset? Wheel width means nothing without offset specs. You need less than a 32 to make it look good.

:.....Flush Wheel Fitment Guide.....:

MrAyasli

#262

+40 offset

so they will sink in?

This post has been edited by MrAyasli: Mar 9, 2010 - 6:53 PM

babi_boi

#263

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QUOTE (MrAyasli @ Mar 9, 2010 - 6:21 PM)

>Kuro Intake Size - 17X7.0
I was thinking of buying these for my car would they sink in or be flush?

Sorry for the noobie question lol.

I just had pretty much the same question. You have to find out what the offset of the wheel is. If you have the wheels in your possesion, the offset quote unquote by 6strngs: "should be stamped somewhere on the wheel on the back of the spoke or something. It'll say 17x7 JJ ET## or something similar. The ET # is the offset." After you find out what the offset is, There is a chart on page one of this post. if you still cant figure it out, ask someone on this post and somebody will help you. They did me.

If you have not ordered the wheels yet, when you call on them to get a price or put the order through, ask them what the offsset is. Then refer to the chart or ask again for help.

Sorry he beat me to it. Yes they will sink in. That is the same offset as my wheels.

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schmooot

#264

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QUOTE (Harold_Fastwaker @ Dec 2, 2009 - 2:10 PM)

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QUOTE (schmooot @ Dec 1, 2009 - 11:04 AM)

>what about 16x6.5" and ET39, With a test fit I've concluded that a 10mm spacer will be enough to clear my gt4 calipers but if I'm getting spacers and longer studs anyways I may as well make it flush with the fender right?

look at the link in my sig to the flush wheel guide. It will answer both of your questions.

I did and I'm still having troubles understanding. According to the chart

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QUOTE (chart)

>FOR THE FRONT WHEELS ONLY **Your fronts should have been rolled from the factory. 9.0+ will probably need a bit of a roll to crush the plastic liner in a bit.
Width ---------- Offset (et)
6.0" ---------- et-5mm
6.5" ---------- et 0mm
7.0" ---------- et+10mm
7.5" ---------- et+15mm
8.0" ---------- et+22mm
8.5" ---------- et+27mm
9.0" ---------- et+33mm (you will be cutting it close with the strut. May need to start running negative camber at this point)
9.5" ---------- et+40mm (you will be cutting it close with the strut. Probably need to start running negative camber at this point)
10.0" ---------- et+45mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)
10.5" ---------- et+50mm (At this point, you will need negative camber, a good fender pull and probably better off with a +35ish offset and going with wide fenders.)

FOR THE REAR WHEELS ONLY **You need to roll your fenders for all of these.
Width ---------- Offset (et)
6.0" ---------- et-20mm
6.5" ---------- et-15mm
7.0" ---------- et-8mm
7.5" ---------- et-2mm
8.0" ---------- et+5mm
8.5" ---------- et+10mm
9.0" ---------- et+18mm
9.5" ---------- et+23mm
10.0" ---------- et+30mm (Will start to cut it close with the strut. Negative camber may be needed. My best guess is you will be alright)
10.5" ---------- et+36mm (At this point, you will probably hit strut. Negative camber is needed. Probably would want to run a lower offset and just pull the crap out of your rear fender to make it tuck.)

If I am reading your chart correctly it states that if I have a 6.5" wheel with ET+39 I would need a 39mm spacer in the front to make it flush essentially right? and for the rear would be 54mm?

That seems like a rather large spacer.

My confusion comes from this

that is a 16x6.5" wheel ET+39 with a 12mm spacer on the front of my car...it appears to me that a 10mm spacer would be almost perfect....39 would be ridiculous.

subsequently here is the same wheel with 15mm on the back

seems to me like another <10mm would be a flush fit back there

Please tell me where I am misreading your chart or is my math just out to lunch?

This post has been edited by schmooot: Mar 16, 2010 - 11:41 PM

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Harold_Fastwaker

#265

Well, with the 6.5 you are running a standard fitting tire so the numbers will be different with you. If what you have works and you are keeping the wheel/tire combo then adjust it to what you think it needs. My numbers are coming from a stretched tire which gives you a narrower profile. You have tire bulge right now with the sidewalls making up some of the distance. I would venture that if you took off the tire and just put the wheel on the car it would need the extra mm to make it work.

Stick a ruler down there and see what your distance will be.

I have never tried to flush up 6.5J so my chart is just me doing number crunching and back tracking from what my current set up is.

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schmooot

#266

makes sense.....I'll do some measuring

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SoundSlut_dotcom

#267

OK, this si my final question... im Buying 19x 8.5 +45 ... WILL THE 8.5 FIT?! (esp in front? ) ????????????????????? HELP

Harold_Fastwaker

#268

I don't think 45 offset will clear your strut housing. But I honestly do not know.

:.....Flush Wheel Fitment Guide.....:

jordisonjr

#269

I was looking at these set of Konig Lace rims, 18x8 with a 45 offset, the car is lowerd on tiens s techs. I read the the guide and I'm pretty sure these will fit, but does anyone know what size tire would work? I was thinking a 225/40/18 tire, can anyone give me some input on this?

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Promasta

#270

that is a good tire size, but a 45 offset is too high, it is meant for subarus. You are going to rub on the plastics in the front while turning. Someone claimed he had no rubbing with 225/40/18s on 18x8 +37s and lowered on tein springs. So you could get 10 or 15mm spacers and be good to go. Or go with a 215/40/18 tire and there would be less chance of rubbing.

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