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rippmods supercharger - 6G Celicas Forums
yes, it will fit.
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Ripps no longer makes the SC for the 5sfe. There was a resurgence of intrest in it about 6 months or so. I emailed and asked them about it. They said that when it was made, there was little interest in it, so they discontinued the program, but they could restart it if there were at least 5 people interested enough to put a down a downpayment.
Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...
dont they want like 3k for the damn thing?? what a waste, im glad they got rid of the program.
hows it taste motha f*cka
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I don't actually think they ever really made the kit for the 6th. I am buying the camry kit. I just need the stage one, I can upgrade it later when I do a rebuild or buy a newer engine. Should be a simple swap to
from camry to celica. I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment. I'm happy with 190-225 I did aome research into it, and the install seems do-able. I'll keep everybody posted.
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Ripps no longer makes the SC for the 5sfe. There was a resurgence of intrest in it about 6 months or so. I emailed and asked them about it. They said that when it was made, there was little interest in it, so they discontinued the program, but they could restart it if there were at least 5 people interested enough to put a down a downpayment.
Ripps no longer makes the SC for the 5sfe. There was a resurgence of intrest in it about 6 months or so. I emailed and asked them about it. They said that when it was made, there was little interest in it, so they discontinued the program, but they could restart it if there were at least 5 people interested enough to put a down a downpayment.
I don't actually think they ever really made the kit for the 6th. I am buying the camry kit. I just need the stage one, I can upgrade it later when I do a rebuild or buy a newer engine. Should be a simple swap to
from camry to celica. I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment. I'm happy with 190-225 I did aome research into it, and the install seems do-able. I'll keep everybody posted.
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you do realize that is 100% more power then the motor does stock, right? i just think its funny when people say they dont want a lot of HP, and then say they want to doubble their current output. thats a lot of power and a big goal !
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>I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment. I'm happy with 190-225
you do realize that is 100% more power then the motor does stock, right? i just think its funny when people say they dont want a lot of HP, and then say they want to doubble their current output. thats a lot of power and a big goal !
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art...manny makes that much...
and rippmods is a full copmlete kit with everything needed
plus i met one of their sponsered cars with a stage 3 in a 3rd gen eclipse...when i met her it was competing for worlds fastest 3rd gen eclipse
and rippmods is a full copmlete kit with everything needed
plus i met one of their sponsered cars with a stage 3 in a 3rd gen eclipse...when i met her it was competing for worlds fastest 3rd gen eclipse
in't this the sme amount of horsepower you get with 5-7 pounds of boost with a 5sfte? I don't know what my car puts out stock, I'd like to do a pre dyno run and a compression check after I get my clutch put in. My motor has some mileage on it so I'm going to baby it till I can buy another one, or get a rebuild.
SC boost is bigger then turbo boost
so a higher turbo psi = lower SC psi
so a higher turbo psi = lower SC psi
I thought Shin made like 225 after his first dyno run?
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lol, i know how much manny makes.
im not saying what can be done or cant. just trying to say that its silly to say you only want a mild power gain, when in fact you are looking to doubble the power level the motor was built for from the factory.
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> art...manny makes that much...
lol, i know how much manny makes.
im not saying what can be done or cant. just trying to say that its silly to say you only want a mild power gain, when in fact you are looking to doubble the power level the motor was built for from the factory.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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I consider 190-225 a mild power gain. Its 255-325 I consider extreme. Sure I would like to have alot of power one day, but it takes money for a rebuild and forged parts. It will happen, I see what it did to Manny
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lol, i know how much manny makes.
im not saying what can be done or cant. just trying to say that its silly to say you only want a mild power gain, when in fact you are looking to doubble the power level the motor was built for from the factory.
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> art...manny makes that much...
lol, i know how much manny makes.
im not saying what can be done or cant. just trying to say that its silly to say you only want a mild power gain, when in fact you are looking to doubble the power level the motor was built for from the factory.
I consider 190-225 a mild power gain. Its 255-325 I consider extreme. Sure I would like to have alot of power one day, but it takes money for a rebuild and forged parts. It will happen, I see what it did to Manny
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lagos, what are you talking about?
"I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment."
He never said anything about how much gain he wanted, just that he wasn't looking for a HUGE AMOUNT of horsepower. And I think everyone will agree that 190-225 is usually not considered "crazy horsepower".
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lol, i know how much manny makes.
im not saying what can be done or cant. just trying to say that its silly to say you only want a mild power gain, when in fact you are looking to doubble the power level the motor was built for from the factory.
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> art...manny makes that much...
lol, i know how much manny makes.
im not saying what can be done or cant. just trying to say that its silly to say you only want a mild power gain, when in fact you are looking to doubble the power level the motor was built for from the factory.
lagos, what are you talking about?
"I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment."
He never said anything about how much gain he wanted, just that he wasn't looking for a HUGE AMOUNT of horsepower. And I think everyone will agree that 190-225 is usually not considered "crazy horsepower".
190-225 to the wheels or crank?
cuz i think i remember reading somewhere that the rippmods site has some discrepancies about the 5s sc... something like on the product page it shows whp when it's actually @ the crank...
cuz i think i remember reading somewhere that the rippmods site has some discrepancies about the 5s sc... something like on the product page it shows whp when it's actually @ the crank...
98 Celica GT -- 5S-FTE: 230WHP 237FT-LBS06 Civic EXMy For Sale Thread
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it IS crazy horsepower for a high compression, ecnomy, motor with bone stock internals and a factory ecu.
its kind of like saying you want to take a bone stock 300hp STI, and make a mild 600hp out of it. thats doubble what it was ever built to do.
i think people make a mistake when they dont think about what motor they are starting from and just think about wheel power or psi. you should look at it in terms of % above what the stock motor was built to do. a mild gain would be 10-50% of what the stock motor was built for. while an extreme gain would be 80% and up.
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>And I think everyone will agree that 190-225 is usually not considered "crazy horsepower".
it IS crazy horsepower for a high compression, ecnomy, motor with bone stock internals and a factory ecu.
its kind of like saying you want to take a bone stock 300hp STI, and make a mild 600hp out of it. thats doubble what it was ever built to do.
i think people make a mistake when they dont think about what motor they are starting from and just think about wheel power or psi. you should look at it in terms of % above what the stock motor was built to do. a mild gain would be 10-50% of what the stock motor was built for. while an extreme gain would be 80% and up.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
meh thats baby hp to me 
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this is very true look at the 7afte running a 170 whp over the stock 92 whp this big gain. Even if i only hit 350 whp on the 7agte thats 258 whp over stock that 3+ times more power than it started with. 200 whp my not seem like alot with super cars running around with 600 700 1000 horse but most of those cars started at 250-300 horse so there only doing what we did doubling our horse power with some exclustions like supra's with 1000 plus whp. But on our little cars and unknown motors ans no factory support i think we did very well. Its big i think 250whp is perfect for daily driven celica its more power than the celica needs but thats me but nice to have if you need it on the highway traction is always a factory in FWD cars always will be i think that point is aroun the 250whp point after that its useless power until you get traction like in the upper gears like when on the high way or toward the middle end of the 1/4 mile
This post has been edited by nik: Feb 22, 2006 - 5:39 PM
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it IS crazy horsepower for a high compression, ecnomy, motor with bone stock internals and a factory ecu.
its kind of like saying you want to take a bone stock 300hp STI, and make a mild 600hp out of it. thats doubble what it was ever built to do.
i think people make a mistake when they dont think about what motor they are starting from and just think about wheel power or psi. you should look at it in terms of % above what the stock motor was built to do. a mild gain would be 10-50% of what the stock motor was built for. while an extreme gain would be 80% and up.
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>And I think everyone will agree that 190-225 is usually not considered "crazy horsepower".
it IS crazy horsepower for a high compression, ecnomy, motor with bone stock internals and a factory ecu.
its kind of like saying you want to take a bone stock 300hp STI, and make a mild 600hp out of it. thats doubble what it was ever built to do.
i think people make a mistake when they dont think about what motor they are starting from and just think about wheel power or psi. you should look at it in terms of % above what the stock motor was built to do. a mild gain would be 10-50% of what the stock motor was built for. while an extreme gain would be 80% and up.
this is very true look at the 7afte running a 170 whp over the stock 92 whp this big gain. Even if i only hit 350 whp on the 7agte thats 258 whp over stock that 3+ times more power than it started with. 200 whp my not seem like alot with super cars running around with 600 700 1000 horse but most of those cars started at 250-300 horse so there only doing what we did doubling our horse power with some exclustions like supra's with 1000 plus whp. But on our little cars and unknown motors ans no factory support i think we did very well. Its big i think 250whp is perfect for daily driven celica its more power than the celica needs but thats me but nice to have if you need it on the highway traction is always a factory in FWD cars always will be i think that point is aroun the 250whp point after that its useless power until you get traction like in the upper gears like when on the high way or toward the middle end of the 1/4 mile
This post has been edited by nik: Feb 22, 2006 - 5:39 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
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this is very true look at the 7afte running a 170 whp over the stock 92 whp is big gain
even if i only hit 350 whp on the 7agte thats 258 whp over stock that 3+ times more than it started with
200 whp my not seem like alot with super cars running around with 600 700 1000 horse but on our little cars and unknow motors its big i think 250whp is perfect for daily drive celica its more power than the celica needs but thats me
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 22, 2006 - 4:08 PM) [snapback]397955[/snapback]
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it IS crazy horsepower for a high compression, ecnomy, motor with bone stock internals and a factory ecu.
its kind of like saying you want to take a bone stock 300hp STI, and make a mild 600hp out of it. thats doubble what it was ever built to do.
i think people make a mistake when they dont think about what motor they are starting from and just think about wheel power or psi. you should look at it in terms of % above what the stock motor was built to do. a mild gain would be 10-50% of what the stock motor was built for. while an extreme gain would be 80% and up.
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>And I think everyone will agree that 190-225 is usually not considered "crazy horsepower".
it IS crazy horsepower for a high compression, ecnomy, motor with bone stock internals and a factory ecu.
its kind of like saying you want to take a bone stock 300hp STI, and make a mild 600hp out of it. thats doubble what it was ever built to do.
i think people make a mistake when they dont think about what motor they are starting from and just think about wheel power or psi. you should look at it in terms of % above what the stock motor was built to do. a mild gain would be 10-50% of what the stock motor was built for. while an extreme gain would be 80% and up.
this is very true look at the 7afte running a 170 whp over the stock 92 whp is big gain
even if i only hit 350 whp on the 7agte thats 258 whp over stock that 3+ times more than it started with
200 whp my not seem like alot with super cars running around with 600 700 1000 horse but on our little cars and unknow motors its big i think 250whp is perfect for daily drive celica its more power than the celica needs but thats me
finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
too bad my grammer sucks i fixed it and added some:laugh: 
This post has been edited by nik: Feb 22, 2006 - 5:39 PM
This post has been edited by nik: Feb 22, 2006 - 5:39 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car.
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finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car.
"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
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thats why a crx with 200 whp can smoke alot of cars its not all about the power and traction thats a big part too but wieght is huge also
thats the nice thing about some hondas the weight
same with a corolla ae86 light so put a little power behind it and wow
i have have driven both a AE86 turbo and CRX with a b16 that was built N/A ran 12's i would love to have both cars
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I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car.
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 22, 2006 - 10:28 PM) [snapback]397966[/snapback]
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finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car.
thats why a crx with 200 whp can smoke alot of cars its not all about the power and traction thats a big part too but wieght is huge also
thats the nice thing about some hondas the weight
same with a corolla ae86 light so put a little power behind it and wow
i have have driven both a AE86 turbo and CRX with a b16 that was built N/A ran 12's i would love to have both cars
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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so true. just to further back this claim up. in the sticky about the 5sfte it says that a turbo 5s celica will be just about as fast as a mustang gt. mustang gt's have around 300 hp and 290 ft lb of torque. thats about 100 more than the celica but they are just as fast as one another.... however the celica weighs a lot less so its just as fast with 1/3 less power. the important part is the power to weight ratio, not just the raw power.
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thats why a crx with 200 whp can smoke alot of cars its not all about the power and traction thats a big part too but wieght is huge also
thats the nice thing about some hondas the weight
same with a corolla ae86 light so put a little power behind it and wow
i have have driven both a AE86 turbo and CRX with a b16 that was built N/A ran 12's i would love to have both cars
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 22, 2006 - 4:44 PM) [snapback]397978[/snapback]
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I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car.
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QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 22, 2006 - 10:28 PM) [snapback]397966[/snapback]
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finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
finally somone who understands what im trying to say.
I understand too... but goddamn people aren't gonna listen or open their minds to understand... so why bother? I'm willing to bet a vast majority of the 'future' swappers have NEVER driven a lightweight 200whp+ car... so they can say 'mild' all they want. There's nothing mild about 195-225 hp in a 2500 pounds car.
thats why a crx with 200 whp can smoke alot of cars its not all about the power and traction thats a big part too but wieght is huge also
thats the nice thing about some hondas the weight
same with a corolla ae86 light so put a little power behind it and wow
i have have driven both a AE86 turbo and CRX with a b16 that was built N/A ran 12's i would love to have both cars
so true. just to further back this claim up. in the sticky about the 5sfte it says that a turbo 5s celica will be just about as fast as a mustang gt. mustang gt's have around 300 hp and 290 ft lb of torque. thats about 100 more than the celica but they are just as fast as one another.... however the celica weighs a lot less so its just as fast with 1/3 less power. the important part is the power to weight ratio, not just the raw power.
i'd be more than pleased with 200 whp.... and even better with nik's 350 hp BEAST
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Sorry to say, but i was talking about the camry kit. The camry kit was for the 5sfe and was meant to also fit on the celica. Problem is that they never test fitted it on a celica, though they were 99% sure it was going to fit ok. This is why they never listed it as a kit for the celica, since they wanted to test fit it first. Anyway, sorry for the bad news. I tried to rally up some support and get 5 people to put a downpayment so they would restart the program, but no one was interested.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29967&hl=
QUOTE(madmods @ Feb 22, 2006 - 12:49 PM) [snapback]397901[/snapback]
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I don't actually think they ever really made the kit for the 6th. I am buying the camry kit. I just need the stage one, I can upgrade it later when I do a rebuild or buy a newer engine. Should be a simple swap to
from camry to celica. I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment. I'm happy with 190-225 I did aome research into it, and the install seems do-able. I'll keep everybody posted.
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QUOTE(orvillescelica @ Feb 22, 2006 - 5:28 PM) [snapback]397809[/snapback]
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Ripps no longer makes the SC for the 5sfe. There was a resurgence of intrest in it about 6 months or so. I emailed and asked them about it. They said that when it was made, there was little interest in it, so they discontinued the program, but they could restart it if there were at least 5 people interested enough to put a down a downpayment.
Ripps no longer makes the SC for the 5sfe. There was a resurgence of intrest in it about 6 months or so. I emailed and asked them about it. They said that when it was made, there was little interest in it, so they discontinued the program, but they could restart it if there were at least 5 people interested enough to put a down a downpayment.
I don't actually think they ever really made the kit for the 6th. I am buying the camry kit. I just need the stage one, I can upgrade it later when I do a rebuild or buy a newer engine. Should be a simple swap to
from camry to celica. I'm not after crazy horsepower at the moment. I'm happy with 190-225 I did aome research into it, and the install seems do-able. I'll keep everybody posted.
Sorry to say, but i was talking about the camry kit. The camry kit was for the 5sfe and was meant to also fit on the celica. Problem is that they never test fitted it on a celica, though they were 99% sure it was going to fit ok. This is why they never listed it as a kit for the celica, since they wanted to test fit it first. Anyway, sorry for the bad news. I tried to rally up some support and get 5 people to put a downpayment so they would restart the program, but no one was interested.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=29967&hl=
Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...
I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install
This post has been edited by madmods: Feb 23, 2006 - 1:16 AM
This post has been edited by madmods: Feb 23, 2006 - 1:16 AM
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madmods, buddy.... you and i need to go for a little ride....
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I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install
I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install
madmods, buddy.... you and i need to go for a little ride....
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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mad, if youve actually decided to do this, i have a line of advice for you.
spend as much money as you can afford to in the head, thats where youll make the power.
the bottom end is easy( rods and pistons are no biggie), and the block is strong. your biggest hurdle engine wise will be the head.
your best bet IMO would be to go NUTS on the head, OS valves, throat correction, port and polish, cams, ect ect.. run a middle of the road compression # like 9:1
and run a full stand alone engine management like the AEM or whatever.
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I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install
I decided to go with the stage 3 kit. 225 hp is just not enough for me. Im looking for at least 275-325. Im used to flying around here in the desert at 180 mph + on my cbr 954. Superior Racing Development in Tempe webpage will handle the rebuild, I want to do the s/c install
mad, if youve actually decided to do this, i have a line of advice for you.
spend as much money as you can afford to in the head, thats where youll make the power.
the bottom end is easy( rods and pistons are no biggie), and the block is strong. your biggest hurdle engine wise will be the head.
your best bet IMO would be to go NUTS on the head, OS valves, throat correction, port and polish, cams, ect ect.. run a middle of the road compression # like 9:1
and run a full stand alone engine management like the AEM or whatever.
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
manny it comes with a ecu
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true dan, but that is a piggy back, thats made to run theyre settings on a close, or close to stock car.
if your gonna up the VE of the motor with the kinda headwork im talking about, theyre tune becomes usless.
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manny it comes with a ecu
manny it comes with a ecu
true dan, but that is a piggy back, thats made to run theyre settings on a close, or close to stock car.
if your gonna up the VE of the motor with the kinda headwork im talking about, theyre tune becomes usless.
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
madmods, you should really give Ripp a call or email to confirm that they do have the kit around. Like i said above, when i contacted them last october they said they had discontinued the entire 5sfe program with no plans of putting it back in production.
If you want to try and get them to restart it in a grop buy situation like they asked, pm me as i might be interested.
If you want to try and get them to restart it in a grop buy situation like they asked, pm me as i might be interested.
Its Orville's Celica, i just drive it...