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Topic #35390 85 posts Started by nate95
Every time i post somthing about my ST people pick me apart about it, people are always saying that the ST is so slow, and they act like theres nothing you can do to make it fast. its not the fastest car in the world but neither is your 3sgte swap celica! i posted earlier in a forum about track times and posted that my ST can run a 16.1 1/4 @86mph and NOBODY believed it. they kept saying that a stock ST couldn't ever run a 16 sec. 1/4,, well mine ISN'T STOCK!! is there anybody out there that believes me,, this is a celica club, you guys should be happy when you hear of someone that has put together a decently fast ST! not pick them apart. mad.gif
Im not against your st or any celica. Im up for making the celica as fast as you can make it. What
mods did you do?
click on the profile, thats easier than me typing them all. Thanks man!
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Every time i post somthing about my ST people pick me apart about it, people are always saying that the ST is so slow, and they act like theres nothing you can do to make it fast. its not the fastest car in the world but neither is your 3sgte swap celica! i posted earlier in a forum about track times and posted that my ST can run a 16.1 1/4 @86mph and NOBODY believed it. they kept saying that a stock ST couldn't ever run a 16 sec. 1/4,, well mine ISN'T STOCK!! is there anybody out there that believes me,, this is a celica club, you guys should be happy when you hear of someone that has put together a decently fast ST! not pick them apart. mad.gif


I think you're mistaken by a few people giving you negative remarks on your car. This doesnt mean that they speak for the entire 6gc community. Just b/c somebody might have given you a ignorant comment about an ST doesnt mean everybody on this site thinks that.

the person that replied to your comment clearly didnt know you had anything done to your car. you could easily pm him and tell him what you did to your car instead of making this post
who was it that picked on you? i think i remeber some GT owners saying they had a hard time running low 16s in their cars, and thats why they didnt think yours had done it.

This post has been edited by lagos: Mar 26, 2006 - 3:21 AM

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nice car! my STX coupe ran a 16.9 with short ram, 2.5 manifold-back exauhst, and timing advance on my old heavy 18's.

I personally like the St's 7a more than the 5s for racing.
It was more than one person,, and i did tell them it wasn't stock and to read my profile, and every one on that post kept puting me down about it. they ended up deleting anything else i would post on that forum! Im not trying to cause any trouble or anything, i just want to see if anybody believes me or supports me with my celica, cause so far only a few do, and i greatly apprieciate those that do!
no offense man but why do u care what these people think? If u ran 16 seconds, then u ran 16 seconds and u should be proud. too many people in here care too much what others think of them.

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Nice car Nate smile.gif
I dont know how an ST goes, because we
didnt get the 7afe here, only the 5sfe.
Good on ya for gettin 16s in the 1/4 mile.

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hey nice car and i'm happy 2 c some one putting up 16's in the celica....represent. not bad 4 a so called "SNAIL" laugh.gif
i think that is a good track time ,i am a big 7a fan my self ,this summer i want to run the 1/4 mile and see what i get with wy mods wink.gif ,i should have some dyno results in a couple of weeks biggrin.gif ,keep up the good fight, long live the st.....LOL tongue.gif
with my car weighing nearly the same, i plan on giving the 1/4 a go this summer for the fun of it. i'll be happy to get a 18.5 to a 18.8 with the automatic trans, anything less than that will drop my jaw :lol:

or am i setting the bar too high?

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i have not seen any one on this site be directly rude, and make fun of any car because it is an st. i have one and i know that they arent fast, people call them slow because they are, but if you put some cash into it you can have a nice little track car. look at nik he is gonna have a ton of power through his 7agte.
well if it makes you feel better... good job with the 16 sec 1/4 mile. yeah the st's are pretty slow, but its also about your shifting skills. and you must be pretty good.

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well, to answer your header on this thread...

It is b/c st's are slow. period. Even the gt is slow, but the st is slower than the slow gt. Even with performance mods (minimal like you have), the st's/gt's will still be slow.

Nice track time, and sorry for some of the guys here that say stupid stuff.

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I have a ST and dont get bashed for it. St's are very slow, but who cares... I didn't buy it because I thought it was fast. One day it might be a lil speed demon but until then, I dont care. I also agree in the fact that if it's real to you, no one else cares. Don't let ignorance get to you
ya know my ST is slow, im not saying 16sec. is fast i'd be stupid if i thought that
why not post a time slip and shut everyone up?
about the time slip,, that was a few months ago when i ran it and i didn't see 16 sec. as a big deal so i threw them out. i ran a few times, if i remember right i had a 16.3, 16, 16.1 the 16.3 i had a bad launch
The only reason I'd have a problem believeing it is because you took a mid 17 to mid 18 second car and shaved 1.5-2.5 seconds off it's quarter mile (without forced induction); and to me that's like saying you could take a 5S, keep it N/A, and mod it to break 15 seconds in the quarter.

But I'll give you the benfit of the doubt. Lets see some time slips.
im inclined to call shens untill a timeslip is posted, its just really hard to believe, sorry man.

but like you said it doesnt matter what we believe, its what you know, so if you post proof to shut us all up, well gladly take our foots out of our mouths, but for now, i just find it real hard to believe.
I feel you 100%. I posted only this site awhile back and got flamed about the ST being TOO slow. I'm like "Duh, I have to drive one everyday!" It was like members were so into calling my car slow that they didn't even post anything relevant to my topic. However, not everyone on this site are ST bashers though. And its not so that ST owners care what others think, its more about, "Hey I'm on a 6g Celica site and they are not supporting the way they should. They're not saying " Hey Nate. You can do this and this to make your car a honda killer." If I wanted to be reminded of how slow my car was I would go on a honda or mustang site and talk to those guys. Like it was once said, if you don't like the post or have something positive to say then don't post.

This post has been edited by Kodak: Mar 26, 2006 - 2:28 PM
Another thing about my car is when i race it, the gears top out 5-6 mph faster than most ST's, i'v talked to other people with ST"s and their gears are:
2nd gear up to 55mph and 3rd gear up to 80
my gears- 2nd gear up to 60mph and 3rd gear up to 86mph

can any body explain to me why this is?
puhahaha. Just be lucky your not a 7th gen. I outcast those...
whats mildly amusing about all this, is that most of the negative comments seem to be coming from other ST owners

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whats mildly amusing about all this, is that most of the negative comments seem to be coming from other ST owners

Where are the negative comments? Surely not on this post. You nor anyone else can deny the fact that Celica ST's are sorely looked upon. The point I want to make is PLEASE stop telling people there car is slow. It could be fast to them. They might even agree that it is slow. But what is mildly amusing is the fact that when some posts a track time(at least that I've seen) people with more experince don't offer advice on how to go faster. Like in dudes case. If you guys think his time is slow or not believe then dismiss the thought of posting that comment and offer advice on how he can achieve or exceed that time.
for the record, id like to just say that i have nothing against STs.

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so can any body explain to me why my gears will go up to higher mph than others?
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for the record, id like to just say that i have nothing against STs.

Lagos I know that YOU don't. You actually happen to be one of the 6gc members that I look up to. biggrin.gif
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so can any body explain to me why my gears will go up to higher mph than others?



the size of your rims and tires can thow the speedo off by a few mph, giving you an incorrect speedo reading.

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