Over 1M Posts • 84K Topics • 9K Authors

My Auto to Manual Swap IS DONE - 6G Celicas Forums

Topic #36865 132 posts Started by hurley97
wow, good luck wiht ur swap.

i soon will be doing a tranny swap, in like around a year, hopefully if i geta good job i can get that 3sgte too.

Is this good enuff 4 ya? :D
Damn girl, good luck to you. It will be worth it at the end!!!
ITS DONE! FINALLY! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

thanks to JDM guy, yo wink.gif


i'll put up what few pics i have later


7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
JDM guy, yo!
haha
a few notes for future refrence.
be sure to get the rubber line that goes between the clutch master hardline, and the slave cylinder hardline. if you have to order it from toyota, they wont have any in-stock, and you'll be lucky if they have one in the country. ( they didnt when we did this.)
if you can get one thats in decent shape from a junkyard, do it.
shifter cable c-clips.
if your not planning major power upgrades, buy an OEM clutch.
you'll pay more, but the fit, feel, and life of the OEM parts makes it worth it.
1 1/4" holesaw for the clutch master, and a 5/16th drill bit i think it was.

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
a few pictures. i have some more detailed ones...maybe later

V this one is my personal favorite tongue.gif
IPB Image

that gigantic thing on the bottom right is the auto tranny
IPB Image

the shift boot is duct taped to the shifter surround, the auto shifter surround doesnt have the clips needed
IPB Image

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
IPB Image

where is my HEAD???!?!?!? laugh.gif

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
where did you get the shift boot?, it looks nice and oem-ish.
nice job!

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
>
QUOTE(95celgt @ Aug 9, 2006 - 11:17 AM) [snapback]467019[/snapback]
>
where did you get the shift boot?, it looks nice and oem-ish.

lol. it is. brand new from Toyota World, $25 wink.gif

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
Congrats! I'm jealous.

'92 Grey Mitsubishi 3000GT SL -Sold'96 Black Celica ST 25th Anniversary -Sold'99 Black Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 -Sold'04 E250 Work Van -Going soon'08 Grey Dodge Charger Work Car -Ordered
Nice work gentlemen, looks good! Glad to see you have your 5spd now Stef.

3rd gen ST205 3SGTE - Alive and boosting.
U really didn't have to get a new ECU for the Manual. You could just re-wire the auto ecu to fool it and make it work. But its safe to have one just in case.
you can no dobut get the metal ring that goes around the shift boot anywhere...probably a junk yard. but congrats, good to see another swapper in our midst.

Sometimes we live to beat the odds.-Ryanaim: rkgreen04
thanks guys! im loving it more and more biggrin.gif

>
QUOTE(soulshadow @ Aug 9, 2006 - 1:17 PM) [snapback]467048[/snapback]
>
U really didn't have to get a new ECU for the Manual. You could just re-wire the auto ecu to fool it and make it work. But its safe to have one just in case.

Dan (Playr158) gave me the ECU with the tranny. Its a 96 ECU with a 94/95 (we assume) tranny on a 97 Celica. Works perfectly - no CEL, starts every time, no problems whatsoever...so far smile.gif

the part numbers on the 96 and 97 ECU's are different. its been said the 96 ECU may put out different codes than the 97 but I have no idea if there is any truth to that statement. but for the one day that I've had it, it works fine. you would never be able to tell it was ever anything but a manual wink.gif

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 9, 2006 - 12:46 PM

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
Looks nice and clean smile.gif
That is probably my tranny if you got it from playr. Its from a 95 st and had about 85k miles on it. If you got the clutch/flywheel/pressure plate from him you could have used it, it was brand new and only had about 2k miles on it. BTW the flywheel is from a corolla 7a.
Alright, I didn't take too many pictures but heres how it went...

I made the three hour drive Fri night with all the parts that weren't already at Manny's moms. Got pulled over in RI for doing over twice the speed limit/ reckless driving (I didnt know the lanes merged), cop was suspicious of the tranny (which was under a tarp in my passenger footwell), ended up getting an $85 ticket for 5 over the limit rolleyes.gif which became the least of my worries

Anyway...

Day 1 (Sat Aug 5)
put the car in the garage
IPB Image
took out the little stuff
IPB Image
planned the attack
IPB Image
put in the pedals
IPB Image
IPB Image
IPB Image
IPB Image

Problem #1: We find out the rubber clutch line thats attached to the master cylinder metal line is cut and is kind of necessary to completing the swap.
IPB Image
IPB Image
Solution: Take the line off Dustin's ST if worse comes to worse. He's been driving the GT lately anyway tongue.gif

then Manny tried to get the rear mount and cross member out and got pissed so when Dustin got back from work and he tried and got it out.


Day 2 (Sun Aug 6)
Me and Dustin stopped at Autozone to pick up some synchromesh and other things on the way to Mannys. Manny has the auto tranny out by the time we got there around 2pm.
IPB Image

The resurfaced flywheel and new clutch go on
IPB Image

Problem #2: Go to put the new throwout bearing onto the fork and find out it doesn't fit. We decide not to use the old throwout bearing because we have no idea how old it is. It was Sun after 5pm and nowhere that was even open was going to have it in stock.
IPB Image
Solution: No other choice but to order it from the Toyota dealer the next morning.

Manny is super pissed. He gets the metal clutch line from the master cylinder in place and is done for the day.

Dustin got the shifter cables and ECU in then put all of the interior back together nicely. Brought some things home to work out some wiring issues, like the reverse lights and neutral start switch.
IPB Image
IPB Image
(^the pink stuff is just grease, it's still there just hidden)

When there's nothing else that can be done, work comes to a stop for the day.


Day 3 (Mon Aug 7)
Didn't even see the car the whole day.
Went to the Toyota Dealer in the AM to order the parts. The throwout bearing was in stock in Boston and would be there next day. The ST rubber clutch line was a different story, there was not a single one at any dealer in the country. Dustin ordered the GT line, of which there is only one and will take a week to get. Got a shifter cable clip as well (should have gotten a few more). Came out to $70

Thats about all that could be done for the day.


Day 4 (Tue Aug 8)
Dustin and Jenn had to work. I took Dustin's ST and picked up the parts from the dealer then picked up Manny and went to my car.
IPB Image
Messed around preping the tranny for a while cause Manny was going to wait and have someone help him lift the tranny into place. F- that plan, I guess Manny got bored, bench pressed the tranny in place by himself cause Manny is the freakin MAN biggrin.gif lol

Only thing left was to hook up things and put stuff back together. Jenn got back from work and we left to get food. When we got back Manny had hooked up the essential things and tried to start the car but it wouldn't even turn over and the check engine light was on. Called up Dustin to make sure of the next step. Wired the two black wires together (from the harness in the engine bay) and the car started right up with no problem. Wired in Dustin's makeshift reverse light switch. Stole the rubber clutch line out of Dustin's ST, made sure everything worked then tightened everything up and put it all back together.

I drove it down the driveway and there were some noises. Manny took it for a drive to make sure the clutch was alright, said it drove nice and seemed fine otherwise.
Brought it back to the house, I duct taped the shift boot to the shifter surround trim since the auto trim doesn't have the clips to hold it in place
IPB Image



So I made the 3-4 hour drive back home and hit a bit of traffic but still think I did pretty well if I do say so myself wink.gif
As of today it doesn't make any weird noises anymore and I think I'm getting better at driving it as well as enjoying driving more and more woot.gif

thanks JDM guy thumbsup.gif ... too bad Jeff couldn't make it, Jenn and Joey had to take his place as the J laugh.gif ... you guys are the best!

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
congrats on the conversion! sound like you guys had fun doing it, the way it should be wink.gif
>
QUOTE(hurley97 @ Aug 9, 2006 - 8:32 PM) [snapback]467205[/snapback]
>

Day 3 (Mon Aug 7)
Didn't even see the car the whole day.
Went to the Toyota Dealer in the AM to order the parts. The throwout bearing was in stock in Boston and would be there next day. The ST rubber clutch line was a different story, there was not a single one at any dealer in the country. Dustin ordered the GT line, of which there is only one and will take a week to get. Got a shifter cable clip as well (should have gotten a few more). Came out to $70


Why didn't Manny call me?
What a meathead. laugh.gif

I'll try to find out on the codes.
I'm guessing the difference in ecu p#s is just an updated ecu.
>
QUOTE(alltracman78 @ Aug 9, 2006 - 10:41 PM) [snapback]467242[/snapback]
>
Why didn't Manny call me?
What a meathead. laugh.gif

I'll try to find out on the codes.
I'm guessing the difference in ecu p#s is just an updated ecu.

I'm just wondering if it will affect anything when I have to get the car inspected. Will it give them different info? Will it tell them its a 96 while my registration says 97, maybe they'd have a problem with that? Should I get Jeff's 97 ECU just to be sure or do you think I'll be perfectly fine? So far it's been starting/running fine... no problems, no check engine light.

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
Don't tell them anything, there shouldn't be any problems at all.

if they bring anything up to you, just tell them you put a new ECU in because yours crapped out wink.gif

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
steff, it shouldnt effect anything, theyre both OBDII ecus.

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
I'm not telling. Hopefully the ECU doesnt say anything either and we shouldn't have a problem wink.gif I don't know what info comes up when they plug in the OBDII

I've just always been nervous when I get my car inspected since they failed me the first time for something as stupid as a hole in the headlight. rolleyes.gif

I'm not worried about the way it runs. I love my franken-car the way it is biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 11, 2006 - 9:48 AM

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
congrats on the swap. And hope you like the feeling of shifting. Its very fun lol. But the OBDII should be ok.
Grats on the swap. All those pics...reminds me of when I did my manual conversion... what a PITA. The big hole for the master cylinder.... how did you manage to get such a clean hole? I had to drill a bunch of holes and then hammer it out.
>
QUOTE(Chanh55 @ Aug 11, 2006 - 11:50 AM) [snapback]467842[/snapback]
>
Grats on the swap. All those pics...reminds me of when I did my manual conversion... what a PITA. The big hole for the master cylinder.... how did you manage to get such a clean hole? I had to drill a bunch of holes and then hammer it out.

thanks!

Manny + 1-1/4" Holesaw + Dremel
wink.gif

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 11, 2006 - 11:16 AM

7A-FTE:It's not about the money.Our Beams Swap.I <3 Dustin---07/16/06
congrats Steff

Buy my Celica $2,500 -http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76562&st=0
>
QUOTE(hurley97 @ Aug 11, 2006 - 11:15 AM) [snapback]467849[/snapback]
>
Manny + 1-1/4" Holesaw + Dremel
wink.gif


1 1/2" holesaw bits are fuuuunn, you know, except when it catches and either slaps you across the face with the cord or tries to break your wrist biggrin.gif
wheeeee 5speeds. but 4 days, and 1000 bucks? shheeeeeeeeesh... way too long, and way too much. but kudos steff.

AIM==Mynzeyes
Great job. I did the same project. I love it. I'v got just GT shifter cabels, but they work just fine. Big difference between auto and stick. So much fun, faster and ju can do burn out if you want...( I don't do that)
Do you guys know what is a diff in pouds between auto tranny and 5 speed. I think it's pretty big.