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I think around 75 lbs or so.

-Doc

yea, the auto tranny is alot heavier compared to the manual.
john, it only took 4 days because of missing and wrong parts.
in reality, i could have done the swap in a full days work.
we broke off early on saturday cause i had already worked in the AM, so we worked a couple hrs, and called it a day so i could eat.
sunday, there really wasnt much to do other than install the clutch line, once we knew the TOB wasnt right.
monday was a dead day, we didnt touch the car.
once we got the parts on tuesday late morning, the car was back up and running in a matter of a couple hrs.
so, total time was prolly 6-8 hrs..by far no records were broken, but that wasnt the goal.
enjoying the car steff?

that auto tranny is massive. I have all this room in my engine bay now...hmmm....what to do with it

and yes, I'm enjoying the car very much! It was well worth the money and time I got to spend with you guys

oh i realize there wasn't a speed record in pursuit. just seems like a terribly long time. i completely understand though, as 10min jobs have turned into day long jobs for me too. don't think i meant it like that. and the money, just don't spend 1k on the rear disc conversion steff. .

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Dont' worry too much about it.
There are basically 2 reasons for the different part #.
Either Toyota decided after production to change some of the programming inside, and the 97 is one of these newer ones, or Toyota decided during production [for the 97 model] to change it.

I will TRY to remember [and get a chance] to check for any TSBs on it at work tomorrow.

A day late.
Sorry.

But anyways, there are no TSBs on it.
The only other thing I can do right now is check the p#s and see if the 96 one is revised in later models.
If you still car, get me the p#.

Or not.

manual is so much fun to drive how much did you spend to get it done/, my friend wants to convert his galant to a manual transmission good work though

i bet you felt like a kid in a candy store with so many skilled people helping you out haha.. id feel like a celebrity if those guys worked on my car

This post has been edited by brianforster: Aug 20, 2006 - 11:21 PM

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in the end it cost about $1k. I bought parts here and there so it didnt seem like that much money. it was well worth it to me cause I really like my car and intend to keep it for as long as possible.

...it's so much more fun to drive and the gas mileage is soooo much better

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thanks Jeremy.
the one thats in my car now is p# 89661-2D450
the 97 A/T ECU (from the EPC) is p# 89661-2D870
you can check if you have time/remember... no rush, everything works

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 21, 2006 - 3:55 PM

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Lesbian Lova, do you have any part numbers for the things your ordered from Toyota? the cluch line and throw out bearing?
Also the shifter boot?
and is the TRD what Dustin has in the GT and ST? i remember liking that one ALOT.

I'm trying to hunt down some of these parts... i'm really sick of the auto thing and now that i have 2 cars the celica can have a little down time.

JDM Guy I will of course be asking for your help... maybe if i can get everything together we can have a "meet" my garage isn't that big but if you can do it Manny's mom's mine should work. w/e. I am assuming if i get a hold of all the parts on steff's list (thank you SO much for that list btw) we can bust this out in a day?

i'm going to have a lot of questions so bear with me.

ps: i <3 u guys

oh snap here i go with questions already:


Do i need an ECU since mine is OBD1?

What about the axels?

another edit: what kind of flywheel and cluch did you go with? prices and where?

Hunt down a 5psd ST in a local junk yard. Which is a hard car to find. Or put up a WTB here for ST manual parts. ST to 3S swappers should have some.
You need an OBDI manual ECU. All those parts up top, I'm not sure about the axles.

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OEM replacement clutch. You should be able to score a flywheel where you get the tranny from.

allrighty let the searching begin

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you don't need a new ECU but your O/D light will be on in your dash all the time, so just pull the bulb. If you wanted you could get a 94 or 95 M/T ECU, but it won't make a diff.

your axles will work just fine. They are the same with A/T and M/T (ST).

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for you an OEM clutch would be just fine. There is someone in the FS section selling a 7a flywheel, buy it and have it resurfaced, you will need it (along with the bolts). Make sure you get a new carrier bearing from the dealer. The clutch and pressure plate you could get off ebay, but make sure you get a OEM replacement made by aisin (sp?).

Ok so i took steff's list and broke it down by what needs to be "found" what im getting from the dealer or new

ok so i broke the list down into what i need to "find" and what i need to get from toyota

Need to Find:
Manual transmission

Shifter cables

Clutch slave cylinder

Clutch master cylinder

Clutch hard-line

Clutch rubber line

Clutch pedal assembly (w/ bracket & bolts)

Brake pedal (bracket and bolts not necessary)

Throwout bearing

Fork


New/From Dealer:
Motor mount >>Part #?>>

Flywheel (w/ 6 bolts)

Carrier Bearing

Clutch

Pressure plate

Shifter assembly TRD? TWM SS?

Manual shifter surround (auto shifter surround does not have the clips to hold the shift boot) >>Part #?>>

4 C clips >>Part #?>>

Other:

Transmission fluid

Brake fluid

1-1/4" holesaw


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Thanks Dustin

i'll fix my list for those things

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Apr 25, 2007 - 2:08 PM

Man i am the question queen

So i know i need the driver's side mount. I'm on toyota world looking for it now the one in red is what i need yes?

yes but you would also need the bracket. The auto tranny one is different than the manual tranny one. Look for someone who swapped for some ST parts, they are much cheaper used.

also, I have a list of stuff at home that would be useful to you. Leter tonight I'll PM them to you.

you are THE MAN chicken man! thanks

i'm searching for used stuff now. I'll be working on this more tonight from home.

edit: i was looking in the wrong place on Toyota World


so then i'd need 5 and 6?

ps: i think you should just give me your St

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Apr 25, 2007 - 3:39 PM

I found a brake pedal and a clutch pedal with bracket but they are from a GT... i assume this will not work?

They should work.

:-D YAY

you need the clutch pedal assembly and the brake pedal rubber pad.

and yes, 5 is the mount and 6 is the bracket. Also, the rear A/T mount you can use but again you need the M/T bracket. I think it's the same story with the front, but I can't remember right now. I'm sure Steff will post up in the later tonight with more info.

Wow, congrats to those who have done this swap as it's one that I will probably never do as it would be horrible and I'll never buy an automatic.

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if you get a tranny from a junkyard the brackets will probably already be attached, mine were. if not you need both brackets...


these are some things I got with my tranny but you may or may not get with yours, you need to make sure you have them

circled in red are the two brackets
circled in green is the slave cylinder (you can get that new)
the blue arrow is where your reverse light plugs into... not a big deal but maybe you want to look for the plug from a manual harness. the one on your auto harness has a 3-pin connector and won't fit, on my car the wires are just cut and spliced into that. it came loose once but we and fixed it and its been just fine since, we know why that happened so wouldn't make the same mistake on your car.

you can actually get most of the parts new from Toyota for great prices, had I known I would have done that cause it may have actually been cheaper. me and Dustin made a list a while ago, he might still have it at home, he'll try and get it for you tonight or just look it up again for you.

like Dustin said, your axles will work just fine. that list I made is pretty comprehensive, I put everything on it down to the stupid C clips we had to run out and get from the dealer.
and yes, if you have all the parts we can bang it all out in a day... two at most. its real easy


I'll post up a crap load of pictures of all my parts for you in a bit...

This post has been edited by hurley97: Apr 25, 2007 - 10:42 PM

Need to Find:
Manual transmission

Shifter cables


Fork >>this also came in my tranny>>

(with the throw out bearings, new one on the right did not fit. came in the clutch kit from ebay. get it from the dealer)

Clutch pedal assembly (w/ bracket & bolts)
Brake pedal (bracket and bolts not necessary)

(with the master cylinder w/ hard line attached and half a rubber line... you need the whole rubber line btw)
^clutch pedal and bracket on the right, brake pedal and bracket on the left
clutch pedal bracket is held in by three of those nuts/bolts and one of those springs
we just took out the actual pedal part for the brake and attached it to my existing bracket
placement of the pedals is the same for GT and ST so either should be just fine


New/From Dealer:
Motor mount >>Part #?>>

Flywheel (w/ 6 bolts)

Carrier Bearing

Clutch

Pressure plate

Shifter assembly TRD? TWM SS? >>both Dustin's cars have 7th gen shifters. you can drive my TRD and see how you like that too before you make a decision>>


Clutch slave cylinder

Clutch master cylinder

Clutch hard-line

Clutch rubber line

Throwout bearing

Manual shifter surround >>Part #?>> >>Panel, Sub Assembly #58804-20180-C0.
you also need the shift boot, I don't have the part number for that but I did buy it new from the dealer for like $25>>


4 C clips >>Part #?>> >>its a standard part, Dustin can get it for you>>

Other:

Transmission fluid

Brake fluid

1-1/4" holesaw >>Manny may still have the one we used for my car>>





Tina, are you coming to the RI meet?
we can show/explain everything to you then if you'd like.... anything for you my lesbian lova

This post has been edited by hurley97: Apr 25, 2007 - 10:22 PM

Steff- I LOVE YOU.

Yes I am comming and i will be picking your brains at the meet.

As far as parts go I just found a GT brake pedal and clutch pedal on e-bay. Both with the brakets... neither has the bolts though. I THINK. I'll ask the guy if he can throw the bolts in there for me.

My best friend works at Autozone, so i gave him a copy of the list, Friday he's going to see what he can get new for me.

I remember when i drove dustins ST and GT i LOVE the shifter, so he has the 7th gen TRD SS? I think i'm going to go with that.

ooooo i am so excited... these parts are not as hard to find as i thought they'd be.

Steff- did i mention i <3 you? haha i doooo

I am excited for you! I remember not knowing if I had the right parts and nobody could tell me if what I had would work... it was not fun, so I'll do whatever I can to answer any questions you can come up with and make it as easy as possible for you.

first you need to find a tranny since it may already have a lot of parts on it. then you can post some pics of it and we can tell you exactly what you already have and what you still need.

but yeah... you can go ahead with stuff like the pedals (junkyard), master cylinder (try new), shifter cables (junkyard), shifter surround and boot (new), throwout bearing/clutch/pressure plate (new)

you may not need to worry about the nuts for the pedals too much, they're just a standard size... Toyota uses them in other places too. you do need that spring though, if it comes with the bracket it should have the spring with it too, just make sure.

Dustin's SS are just from ebay I believe. the TRD SS is completely different, feels completely different. IMO it shifts smoother, you can dive mine at the meet. if you still like his better thats actually cheaper than the TRD shifter, if you want the TRD shifter I can link you to where I got mine... I think its a little cheaper now.

Edit: Yes i'd like the link if you have it plz

Edit: We have bolts- springs- checking

Dan said he has a transmission so i'm going to try to get a pic from him. If he can't get it or w/e i'll find a junkyard, Jeff gave me a good place so i'll see what they have.

i'm trying to track down some shifter cables right now

my problem right now is that toyota world isn't working. It wont let you put items in your cart. Sooooo i may have to get a list together and just call them.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Apr 26, 2007 - 10:17 AM