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Those talon's arent really that bad. The problem is, I don't see too many with a manual tranny, or with a decent amount of mileage on them (under 100k).

When I sell the celica, I'm gonna be looking for a 96+ Eclipse GS-T hard top with low mileage. It will be rare, but i'll find one, and I wouldn't mind paying a premium price for one either.

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ohh..yes, yes they are....they are commonly known around here as "electrical nightmares"

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dude, you have an AUTOMATIC and a ST....

those 2 words combined is a big no no for racing.

Matt i'll donate you a manual tranny for the cause

who wants to donate shift cables

This post has been edited by playr158: Jul 5, 2006 - 2:27 PM

If you want cheap speed buy a street bike. It doesnt really matter what car you drive, we could sit here all year and argue this car is better than that.

If the car you currently drive makes you happy, stick with it and start planning some serious mods. If not. Find a car that will make you happy.

You can make any car faster, but only the right car to you will make you happy.

i pretty much agree with everyone. for starters, ditch the auto tranny and learn to drive stick. a good driver in a manual st can take on an auto gt. plus its a lot more fun to drive. and save up some more for either a swap or turbo. i highly recommend that you not sell your car for a honda. talk about a major downgrade. your car is one of a kind and hondas are ubiquitous.

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i totally agree. haha

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Jul 5, 2006 - 3:15 PM

Exactly. You can make any car fast, its not even worth discussing what cars are better. You buy yourself a cheap car and spend money to make it fast, or buy a more expensive car thats already fast and before you know it, you spent the same ammount of money and from either angle you come from you end up with the same result - a quick car.

Celicas aren't blazing fast from the factory, especially auto ST's. However with the right ammount of money and time invested, you can forget that you ever had any doubts about the Celica.

Its aaaaallllllll relative.

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^^ basically the same point i was attempting to touch on.. he just said it better

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unless its like a vtec prelude or something. those are cool!

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swapped celica is awesome for speed and daily driving, if you want a car that run low 12 or something, how many of them are actually street drivable? and have the looks =p. all in all, if you want serious speed, go for something else, celica look nice, have good protental with 3s swap, and there's a good upgrade for the 3s, although expensive you can get a good hp number with stock internal. if you're seriouse about putting power to the 3s, upgrade internals, turbo, etc etc etc. hell how do you think those honda are fast? stock? dont think so

quick fix : don't race

If you wanan spend thousands of dolalrs for the sole satisfaction to have a car faster than stranger, go ahead!


This post has been edited by Rayme: Jul 5, 2006 - 4:41 PM

I dont care really how fast my car is , if i wanted a fast car i'd buy something fast but it'll probarly be ugly and i dont do ugly cars.....

Supra TT or GT4 at the end of the year for sure

the first time i laid eyes on a 6gc it became one of my dream cars... for me to actually get one is really amazing i was discouraged that i got an st but now with the soaring gas prices and the new law about street racing here in ontario i wouldnt trade it in for the world... i'm focusing on ricing up my car for now and i couldnt care less what people think... i do have money save up for an engine swap mostlikely a 1mzfe if i get the chance but thats only when my motor blows. for now rice it up.


btw new ontario law: check the chart: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/crime/street-racing.html

not only that once your car is seized it becomes a pepsi can ....just to prove their point they showed 2 modded civics being scrapped on the evening news

This post has been edited by behindthesmile: Jul 5, 2006 - 7:07 PM

if the money is there anything can be made to go fast... I've seen a VW bug run 10 flat, for that matter i've seen a dodge colt run low 11's...

don't ever give up, just rember you are driving a hot looking car!

Hey, if you just wanna beat the guy in the Manual ST, just trade your ST in for a nice Manual GT. I traded my Auto GT in for a 95 Manual GT (with only 67K on it...I got lucky!) last year, and it is a blast to drive...a little more power might be nice, but I'm not racing anyone, so I'm in no rush Don't feel so insecure about it...no one should judge your character or "hate" just cause your car is slower than theirs.

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yeah coomer you do have a point but if you know what your looking for then well my prices are corrct for instance my friend owns a repo company so i can get a k24 for a few hundred the most expensive part would probably be getting the type s tranny of an rsx and even if you dont know someone that can get you a engine look around rsx and tsx are def in alot of junkyards and well if you find an accord k 24 you can always slap on a k20 head. there are so many sites that offer good prices for alot and well living out here in the east coast well theres plenty of ways to get what you want atleast for honda's believe me ive done the numbers with what i can get and the same amont of money iam spending to get a nother celica and due a swap i can be faster in a honda but like the rc king said its the bandwagon that i dont like. But i still like a nice honda especially a delsol and well as far as car prices lets see i know atleast 3 cars that are up for sale in my area all eg's one a bubble and two are coupes the two couupes are each asking 2 grand so iam sorry but my celica cost $3200 and well in a honda ou dont need to worry if u have a gt or an st all swaps are the same as far as car models for a honda but i love my celica even though its oput of commission right now i would still do the swap on my celica not too many celicas around hee are modded but everyother honda is.

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How is the swap illegal? Get yourself a 94-95 mr2 usdm swap you have yourself a legal 3s swap. You can even get a 94-95 Jdm mr2 clip, but you'll have to take the manifold or something to get drilled for egr and usdm ecu, and WaLa... legal swap.... I know I work at a Ref station and i've asked my boss several times. Engine just has to be same year or newer of your car. I'm considering doing a v6 swap in the future just because it's easier to find newer 1mzfe's those then a 95 3sgte swap (since I have a 95 st). Then later on if I "wanted" more power, i'll just add a TRD Supercharger "CARB approved" and i'll have a legal 1mzfze.

This post has been edited by Celicaguy13: Jul 5, 2006 - 11:55 PM

yeah, I know it has to be same year or newer, but doesn't it also have to be a california engine too, one that has to be built to ca emissions specs?

i live in cali too. it hella sux. but isnt there a way to get by with a swap or turbo? like pay someone to pass ur smogs n stuff? i wanna swap or turbo too.....otherwise my car will stay hella slow.

no, if you pass smog, you pass smog. Just dont get your hood popped. those test only stations rarly check for EGR, hense why i passed with my GEN 2 jspec sawp. Just keep your cats, smog, and have fun.

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it'd have to be a 94 mr2 usdm swap (for me)...jdm is out of the question. The main part is getting it to pass ca emissions smog while you cannot have any aftermarket modifications done to the engine. cali is real strict about that. whatever you can pull though...go for it.

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see you're screwed if you get pulled over. so why do it in the first place? luckily we dont have those side test stations in norcal yet

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so you're from san jose? I bought my celi from a guy in san jose, I'm about 45 minutes north, in livermore

liver more? why didnt you post on my topic asking about who is near bay area??!?!

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I didn't see that thread. sorry!

so, I just need the engine from a 94-95 usdm mr2 turbo. were exactly am I gonna find that?

Your not....91-93 mr2 is easier, why did you just jump to 94-95 those are the hardest years to find.

And back to the quote on "Im screwed" hardly, how amny cops know what an EGR is. my engine is powdercoated anyway, but i have all my smog and sound level certifaction in my car so id be legally glad to have a CHP try and bust my balls. All cuz im 20 doesnt mean im dumb. Cops want easy prey simple as that.

13 months, 350+rwhp later ive been pulled over dozens of times (headlights angled at a 23 degree or lower angle? I dont even know wtf he was talking about). And even came close to a tow and in handcuffs (verbally assulting an officer?") but not a single ticket. I dont race on streets and i dont speed everywhere, just be polite and stern afterall they work for YOU. But its all how you hold yourself, nothing to fear. Test only stations wont mind, but visual inspection can screw you, hell ive had one of my close buddies FMIC rx7 sent to a state ref for "illegal intake modifcations" which was a joke. My fear is external wastegate noise haha, that seems to the be the new fuse for local PD.


But if your fear is that stern, 91-95 mr2 3sgte make sure the egr is working right. and your cats arnt clogged. My biggest fear in cali is this...

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/05/598.asp

or the already stationed mobile smog pits stationed outside of big car meets and/or car shows. Like the incidenct at the HIN 2 years ago.

This post has been edited by Glitch001: Jul 6, 2006 - 2:34 AM

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re-he-HEAALLY? HMMMM....


and for you cali guys...what if you are from a state that dosent have such restrictions and you come visit? are u subject as well? cause i know in va, they are real arseholes....

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because, it's california law, you can only swap an engine that is the same year or newer, which in my case is a 94. and I thought that it also had to be a california engine, it couldn't be imported from ohio, let alone japan. not sure about that last part now though.

anyway, the idea I cam up with last night was: I had my car smogged 6 months ago, so if I save up for the next year and a half, get it smogged, and then swap the day after, I'm good for two years. and after 3 1/2 years, I'll probably have moved out of this state by then. I dunno, it's a possibilty.

same here too sick of the slow car but people say on the other topics that if you shift at the right time it wouldn't be so bad

This post has been edited by rayneezy23: Jul 6, 2006 - 9:00 PM