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Topic #38936 54 posts Started by rayneezy23
hey i wondering if my celica is fast enough to beat a civic my celica has an short ram intake and a exhaust, and if the civic had the same thing (any kind of civic) would it be a even race?

This post has been edited by rayneezy23: Jul 6, 2006 - 1:45 AM
>>What type of Civic..........

~FlamingCelica>
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94 Red Celica ST
a civic with a motor with a red valve cover on it's motor.
I've driven my dad's 94 DX civic, it's actually what I learned manual on, and it's wayyy slower than me celica GT, but couldn't tell you about an EX civic with VTEC motor vs. ST

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there's a quote i've read several times on this site.... "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still retarded."

ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts areon. which means i need to update my sig.
well.. if you say any civic...

i'm almost positive you'll lose to:
civic type-r
late '90s civic sir (or si for those in the states)
any 06+ civic (dx/dx-g/lx/ex/si... and csx)

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geez does it really make you proud if you win racing a civic? lol....

it's like a honda guy going "i won racing a corolla with my integra".

-TomazWSwww.tomazws.com
you know a civic EX would most likely beat an ST stock vs stock
i actually beat a civic once. it was from a 35 mph roll and it was a dx or something i dont know but then again my car has better top end cuz i have straight pipe no resonator or cat...(if that makes much of a difference, i dont know)

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I just bought a '96 Civic EX over the weekend and let me tell you, there's NO way a stock Celica ST can beat a stock Civic EX. My civic is automatic but it picks up pretty quick-- ALMOST as fast as my manual Celica GT. The handling isn't as good but I'm impressed. I had a hard time finding another decent Celica so I said screw Toyota and bought this. I don't regret my decision at all.

My new baby, '96 Honda Civic EX.

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This post has been edited by ImportChick95: Jul 6, 2006 - 4:52 PM
^ what is that! omg WHAT IS IT! RUN! ITS A HONDA! AHHHHH! lol

idk, the civic has always had close to 100hp...same as the st, so idk maybe its because the civic is newer and has less wear and tear so it has better pick up? idk but i think that a gt (auto or stick) would smash a civic

ps nice mkIII supra (note from background of civic pic)

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Jul 6, 2006 - 4:52 PM

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^ what is that! omg WHAT IS IT! RUN! ITS A HONDA! AHHHHH! lol

idk, the civic has always had close to 100hp...same as the st, so idk maybe its because the civic is newer and has less wear and tear so it has better pick up? idk but i think that a gt (auto or stick) would smash a civic

ps nice mkIII supra (note from background of civic pic)


You must not know much about civics.. As far as the 100 hp goes, it all depends on what type of Civic. This one has 127 hp. Whoo woo! tongue.gif Still slow but oh well, good enough for me.
That's my brother's supra by the way. It's crazy fast and he babies that thing. Spanked a few of those new mustangs.



This post has been edited by ImportChick95: Jul 7, 2006 - 9:40 PM
yeah i dont bother filling my mind with usless honda info..lol


that supra = super nice

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there's a quote i've read several times on this site.... "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still retarded."


racing a civic does not make you retarted!

there is nothing like the special olympics, xcept maybe the slow car vs slow car but still

the guy asked if he can win not to be put down

but yeah, you would prolly have him off the line, but once things get at high rpm's, he would get ahead.

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Jul 6, 2006 - 6:23 PM

Is this good enuff 4 ya? :D
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there's a quote i've read several times on this site.... "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still retarded."


racing a civic does not make you retarted!

there is nothing like the special olympics, xcept maybe the slow car vs slow car but still

the guy asked if he can win not to be put down

but yeah, you would prolly have him off the line, but once things get at high rpm's, he would get ahead.



hey, i didn't make up that quote. and i'm not calling him a retard or putting him down or what-not. i drive an st and know all about its retarded power. basically, all i'm saying is that there really is no point in racing a civic. not really much of an accomplishment if you win. and street racing is bad. the race will probably be over by the time they reach the speed limit, but still.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Jul 6, 2006 - 7:05 PM

ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts areon. which means i need to update my sig.
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^ what is that! omg WHAT IS IT! RUN! ITS A HONDA! AHHHHH! lol

idk, the civic has always had close to 100hp...same as the st, so idk maybe its because the civic is newer and has less wear and tear so it has better pick up? idk but i think that a gt (auto or stick) would smash a civic

ps nice mkIII supra (note from background of civic pic)


what the hell? anyways, an EX would smash an ST, but EX vs GT it should be pretty close.
turbo that 7a! than u would be smoking some civics.

or maybe a 4age?

but yeah.

racing isint bad, its just illegal.

what IS bad is when people dont know how to race.

thats bad.

people die like that.

but what teh cops dont kno wont hurt em. ;D

Is this good enuff 4 ya? :D
Umm, celica st should be able to beat a civic 4 door dx at least because of weight. But still, like this quote, "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still retarded." It should be more like "racing a civic is like racing in the special olympics. even though you win, you're still a loser." Its useless at the end.

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For what it is worth I managed to beat a Integra in a motorway drag in my Celica (3sfe with exhaust and filter) he did have a couple more people on board (3 vs my 1) but damn the integras just dont look as cool. biggrin.gif
my stick ST ran vs a auto vtec civic...i won, off line, and when we rolled...i won in turns, i won in the 45mph roll...
it was an auto tho.

i dont want to be slow anymore, our cars are fun...honestly with a stick u have a enough speed at hand to do some cool stuff...but my baby is gunna ger a bigger engine soon...civics wont be a thing then.

i just dont like those darn things cause everyone has one...and they ghetto.
a 96 civic looks like a 96, every one ask's me if my 96 is new...
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For what it is worth I managed to beat a Integra in a motorway drag in my Celica (3sfe with exhaust and filter) he did have a couple more people on board (3 vs my 1) but damn the integras just dont look as cool. biggrin.gif

what's worse is when people mistakenly call our cars an integra!

anyway, I was on the freeway today, everybody was driving real slow (like 60) in all lanes and I was getting pissed, so I finally was able to get ahead of everyone so I just pushed that pedal down, a couple seconds later I'm going about 90 when this red integra is coming up on me fast, he changes lanes and zooms past me at at least 110... so there is power to be had in a civic/integra, but stock for stock I think a celica would beat a civic (ST beating a DX, and GT beating an EX or SI) however, as this integra passed me, I caught a glimpse of his altezza taillights and I couldn't help but chuckle.

now here's one for you, who'd win, a GT celica w/ injen intake (manual) or a bone stock mitsubishi lancer ES (auto). my thoughts are Celica=135 hp in 2400 lbs. and lancer=120 hp in 2600 lbs. but what do you think? this guy I work with just got a lancer and thinks he can beat me...

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lets not kid around here. although we all wish a GT would beat an SI, no way in hell is that gonna happen frown.gif

stock vs stock an SI would pwn0rz teh GT.
[what's worse is when people mistakenly call our cars an integra!

anyway, I was on the freeway today, everybody was driving real slow (like 60) in all lanes and I was getting pissed, so I finally was able to get ahead of everyone so I just pushed that pedal down, a couple seconds later I'm going about 90 when this red integra is coming up on me fast, he changes lanes and zooms past me at at least 110... so there is power to be had in a civic/integra, but stock for stock I think a celica would beat a civic (ST beating a DX, and GT beating an EX or SI) however, as this integra passed me, I caught a glimpse of his altezza taillights and I couldn't help but chuckle.

now here's one for you, who'd win, a GT celica w/ injen intake (manual) or a bone stock mitsubishi lancer ES (auto). my thoughts are Celica=135 hp in 2400 lbs. and lancer=120 hp in 2600 lbs. but what do you think? this guy I work with just got a lancer and thinks he can beat me...
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Power to weight the celica hould waltz over the lancer. On another slightly unrelated note I had to laugh a while a go someone in a Mazda Astina (not sure if you have them in the US but they are a 1600cc) tried to have a go against my cousin (with myself) in his 500hp+ nissan GTR, that was funny!
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lets not kid around here. although we all wish a GT would beat an SI, no way in hell is that gonna happen frown.gif

stock vs stock an SI would pwn0rz teh GT.

hmm... depends on the year, the 92-95 civic SI (which is what I was going off of) only has 125 hp. I just looked up the stats on the later SI's and it turns out the 99+ has 160 hp, so maybe the celica couldn't take those years. but I'd take my sister's 2002 civic EX sedan any day biggrin.gif

I've driven both my dad's 94 civic DX and my mom's 2004 accord EX (4 cyl. not V6) and they both feel so much slower than my celica.

and yes, you read that right, everyone in my family (of a driving age) drives a honda, except me, I'm the rebel who bought a toyota. tongue.gif

This post has been edited by 6strngs: Jul 7, 2006 - 12:50 AM

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good for you. made the smart move.

ss-iii splitters and 404 skirts areon. which means i need to update my sig.
Who will Win??????????

I just moved to Tahoe CA (6000 ft elevation sucks 4 speed). The chick I’m roommates with is dating some dude with a 96 (i thnk) 1.6 civic. He just finished putting in his new header, CAI, and a Cat back. My 95 Celica ST has a CAI, , exhaust and a new clutch......

Any guesses?
-SpooNr

PS i will post the results regardless when it all goes down.

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Who will Win??????????

I just moved to Tahoe CA (6000 ft elevation sucks 4 speed). The chick I’m roommates with is dating some dude with a 96 (i thnk) 1.6 civic. He just finished putting in his new header, CAI, and a Cat back. My 95 Celica ST has a CAI, , exhaust and a new clutch......

Any guesses?
-SpooNr

PS i will post the results regardless when it all goes down.



ST BABY!

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Who will Win??????????

I just moved to Tahoe CA (6000 ft elevation sucks 4 speed). The chick I’m roommates with is dating some dude with a 96 (i thnk) 1.6 civic. He just finished putting in his new header, CAI, and a Cat back. My 95 Celica ST has a CAI, , exhaust and a new clutch......

Any guesses?
-SpooNr

PS i will post the results regardless when it all goes down.

if his is dx or lx, you've got him, if it's hx you probably still have him, if it's ex you have a slim chance, and if it's si then NOPE! of course, if it's a 96 then it's not an si, they didn't start making the si for that generation until 99 I believe.

This post has been edited by 6strngs: Jul 7, 2006 - 5:27 PM

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